Jolly's Polys

topspn

Hall of Fame
Black Knight sounds like Black Magic except that it's shaped. Can you confirm this suspicion? Your review makes me want to order a set, but I'm a lowly 3.0 and I probably wouldn't benefit from it.
Goodness gracious, no! Black magic plays pretty lively and elastic and Black Night is fairly comfortable but much more control oriented with a crisper feel. Really enjoyed BK on my PSTGT, it gave me some nice control and could keep stepping on the gas
 

Muppet

Legend
@Muppet
I have played both & if you use poly, try a set.
I generally use poly mains/ 1.25mm sg @ 44 /48 lbs. Gets cut out in about 8 to 10 hours.
My go to setup is Cyber Flash 1.23/Kirsch SG 1.25 in the MW racquet in my signature. I think I'll try Black Knight some time in the near future. The reason I'm a 3.0 is because I have poor strategy and court sense. My strokes and footwork are very good, enabling me to use poly hybrids.
 

Sintherius

Rookie
Goodness gracious, no! Black magic plays pretty lively and elastic and Black Night is fairly comfortable but much more control oriented with a crisper feel. Really enjoyed BK on my PSTGT, it gave me some nice control and could keep stepping on the gas
Certainly you can give a comparison between BK and Cyclone? ;)
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
Certainly you can give a comparison between BK and Cyclone? ;)
It has been a while since i hit with cyclone and it was never one of those strings that i used frequently. I’d certainly take BK with no question on feel, control, consistency and longevity. I think spin potential should be pretty much on par. I did use BK 1.28 for the record.
 

alidisperanza

Hall of Fame
How similar to Volkl Cyclone?
Not similar at all. They are targeting two very different markets. BK is more of a tournament player's string that will do everything above average all-around but doesn't do anything extraordinary. Cyclone is designed for people with slower bat speed and high bite. It allows you to put the ball left and right and change your arc without too much technique change. But when you swing, Cyclone reaches that terminal productivity much faster. You'll get more MPG out of the BK but Volkl will play a bit stiffer and grabbier. No strempf in the cyclone but control is above average.
 

Sintherius

Rookie
Not similar at all. They are targeting two very different markets. BK is more of a tournament player's string that will do everything above average all-around but doesn't do anything extraordinary. Cyclone is designed for people with slower bat speed and high bite. It allows you to put the ball left and right and change your arc without too much technique change. But when you swing, Cyclone reaches that terminal productivity much faster. You'll get more MPG out of the BK but Volkl will play a bit stiffer and grabbier. No strempf in the cyclone but control is above average.
So if I have this right, BK has more power/less control? Sounds like I’d prefer my Cyclone to it if this is the case
 

alidisperanza

Hall of Fame
So if I have this right, BK has more power/less control? Sounds like I’d prefer my Cyclone to it if this is the case
No, they have control in different measures. Yes, I think BK is a touch more powerful but Cyclone gets it from being a fairly stiff, grabby string. Like Jolly just said, if you can't get the RHS up, you won't see the control for BK.
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
Black Knight is a string that produces control if your stroke allows it to. The string has very good control on fast swings. It's not like a few other polys which grab the ball well and produce control at lower swing speeds, but then get erratic when you speed up the swing.
Cough tour bite.

J
 

FlightDeck

New User
I did try T1BK and T1FW Boost and I did like the Boost hybrid a lot more. BK was just not crisp enough, too muted in a way e.g. feels like Solinco Revolution eventually...

You should try the T1 FireWire (Boost) :)
 

jangotango

New User
I did try T1BK and T1FW Boost and I did like the Boost hybrid a lot more. BK was just not crisp enough, too muted in a way e.g. feels like Solinco Revolution eventually...

You should try the T1 FireWire (Boost) :)
I bought the 16, 17, and 18 gauge "trial" pack deal T1 has right now. Favorite so far is Boost 16g in my Blade. Spin of the firewire, and medium power from the combo of Neos 2 and Firewire. I'll review the rest soon.
 

alidisperanza

Hall of Fame
I bought the 16, 17, and 18 gauge "trial" pack deal T1 has right now. Favorite so far is Boost 16g in my Blade. Spin of the firewire, and medium power from the combo of Neos 2 and Firewire. I'll review the rest soon.
I have the Firewire 16ga. I just don't see what everyone is raving about in the epic spin department. It played average-ish for me. I have a set if @J011yroger wants to give it a whirl.
 

CiscoPC600

Professional
You’d break it in 45 minutes or less.
Shoot.. Maybe I should've gone with the 1.28. How does the Isospeed Cream fare in terms of spin i.e., what comparable? Unfortunately, TW's compare strings tool doesn't provide a spin rating for Cream.
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
When can we expect this review?
Ordering a few sets of BK here pretty soon to try out - I’ve read too many good things about it not to.
Probably early December. Too busy training my hoes for nationals to be able to practice for myself.

Training for Jolly 2019 will start the Monday after Thanksgiving, I'm using the rest of the month to rest and prepare and get my mind right.

J
 

CiscoPC600

Professional
@J011yroger what level do they play? And you? Also, how much does testing strings affect your game? Do you settle on a string for a long period once you have tournaments or competition in mind?
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
@J011yroger what level do they play? And you? Also, how much does testing strings affect your game? Do you settle on a string for a long period once you have tournaments or competition in mind?
9.0&10.0

I don't particularly like testing strings or frames, I just like playing with the same thing. If I have matches that are important I'll only use my own strings and frames so only when I have time off from playing I'll try out other stuff for fun.

J
 

CiscoPC600

Professional
9.0&10.0

I don't particularly like testing strings or frames, I just like playing with the same thing. If I have matches that are important I'll only use my own strings and frames so only when I have time off from playing I'll try out other stuff for fun.

J
I see. So what's your current match string, gauge, and tension?
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
Dope. I'm assuming the amount of frames is to ensure you have enough playable frames for the next few years?

Edit: Weird seeing a Wilson buttcap and leather grip on a Head racket, ha.
Yea, I just kept accumulating them when ever I came across them cheap, I think I have 35-40 of them. Usually keep 12 strung in summer and 6 in winter.

Been using them since 2014, the older ones are pretty worn but I've only broken 2 so far, one of natural causes and one slipped out of my hand serving. I don't plan to change for at least 5 more years lol. I used the Wilson 90s for 7 years and went through over 40 of them.

J
 

CiscoPC600

Professional
Yea, I just kept accumulating them when ever I came across them cheap, I think I have 35-40 of them. Usually keep 12 strung in summer and 6 in winter.

Been using them since 2014, the older ones are pretty worn but I've only broken 2 so far, one of natural causes and one slipped out of my hand serving. I don't plan to change for at least 5 more years lol. I used the Wilson 90s for 7 years and went through over 40 of them.

J
I'm guessing you string them yourself. Must be nice to switch to fresh strings constantly prior to them going dead.
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
I'm guessing you string them yourself. Must be nice to switch to fresh strings constantly prior to them going dead.
No, my friend is a tour stringer so I have him do them, I play them until they break, use fresh ones for real matches then use them for practice.

J
 

CiscoPC600

Professional
No, my friend is a tour stringer so I have him do them, I play them until they break, use fresh ones for real matches then use them for practice.

J
Interesting. With the tension loss on those two strings, it doesn't affect the playability? Or are you breaking them under 10 hours?
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
Wow. Gauge? Sorry for all the questions. I'm always curious about other people's setups and use.:oops:
I used the BBO 15L until I couldn't find any more, it doesn't last appreciably longer than the 16 I use now. I get 2 hours of hard groundstroke games or drilling out of it compared to 45 minutes or so from ALU. It lasts longer if I play matches or hit with weaker players. I'm actually better at singles but I mostly play doubles or mixed or just hit/drill. The drilling is what destroys strings.

J
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
I used the BBO 15L until I couldn't find any more, it doesn't last appreciably longer than the 16 I use now. I get 2 hours of hard groundstroke games or drilling out of it compared to 45 minutes or so from ALU. It lasts longer if I play matches or hit with weaker players. I'm actually better at singles but I mostly play doubles or mixed or just hit/drill. The drilling is what destroys strings.

J
True that. When I was drilling with this one junior as his hitting partner I suddenly was restringing every few hitting sessions - around 4 hours I’d guess. That’s in the PS Ltd +, not a frame that’s particularly hard on strings
 
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