Jolly's Polys

TforTommy said:
you tried tourbite/tourbite soft? I really liked tourbite, i dropped the tension. Didn't find it to be uncomfortable at all, but i've heard tourbite soft is great. Haven't tried it but normal tourbite is something I loved and couldn't stop putting down, crisper feel and still felt a nice pocket in my rf97a. With the shape of it too I could really feel it sinking in my rf97a and clean bite
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How is the control with the tourbite in your RF97?
What tension?
Could you hit out on your shots?
Is Tourbite the string you would use for a big singles match?
Thanks
 
@J011yroger you gonna try that new 16g ALU Power? Wonder if it's that same thicker one you got before and they're just re-branding it. (If my memory is right you used one before).
 
Have you tried bbo rough? I’m trying it in place of ALU rough to mix things up. I read it’s stiffer than ALU so I’m thinking about stringing down a couple lbs.


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Ok, so Tuesday I used the cyclone for the first time, and with my normal hitting partner. We warmed up for a few minutes and then got a good 30 minutes of hitting in before it started getting tough to see due to daylight issues. Initially the string felt a little plasticky, not soft at all, and a good bit underpowered (I strung it at 50lbs, same as my usual.) I didn't have any control issues even though it didn't have that amazing initial bite that most shaped strings do, and when I mashed the ball, it went, just seemed like there was not much jump off the stringbed, and if I wanted to relax and hit a rally ball it was subpar.

Based on all the feedback here I felt like I was missing something so I waited to post here until I played it more as I felt that it needed to break in, much like Black Knight.

I used it yesterday to teach some beginners just to put a little more time on it, then today drilled with my buddy for about 45 minutes. The underpoweredness was less noticable but the control was still good. We warmed up, did cross court groundstrokes and volleys. It was pretty serviceable and softened up with a little use I will have to see how it plays at the end of its life to see if I recommend stringing looser. Volleys were fine.

Tonight I used it in our "high performance" program, lots of groundstroke drilling, and at the end we played some dubs. I didn't take any warm up serves because the kids worked on serves for 15 minutes at one of the stations and didn't need to warm up.

First serve I sliced wide and it curved into the doubles alley, wasn't sure if it was the string or me so I threw a kicker into the middle of the box for my second and the kid turned himself into a pretzel trying to get out of the way of the bounce. Two more unreturned spin serves later I put a little juice on my first for the 40-0 point and it seemed to respond nicely.

Will continue to update.

J
 
It might just be me, but your review of Cyclone so far sounds exactly like my experience with RPM. What gauge did you end up hitting with?

Can't wait for part 2. Don't forget to include pic of a relevant attractive female.
 
Thanks for the review! Similar impressions here as well. Took a little time to break in then improved a little bit, but nothing that really jumped out. ALU PWR silver is my favorite, and now want to try the Smart next.
 
Update, we are having a girls 18s national tournament at my club, and I have been warming up a few of the kids for matches, played with a 5 star for an hour and no issues at all. Will use with my normal practice partner again. Tempted to take video but it's pretty cold and windy so I don't know if it's worth recording myself shanking balls into the stratosphere for an hour.

J
 
heninfan99 said:
Turns out the pros are right. Luxilon Big Banger is the stuff.
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And the Ace 18 (basically thinner, more responsive BBO) is The MAC Daddy of them all. [emoji471][emoji471][emoji471]

P.S. Cyclone is nice too and also won’t destroy your arm like RPM [emoji56]




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BounceHitBounceHit said:
And the Ace 18 (basically thinner, more responsive BBO) is The MAC Daddy of them all. [emoji471][emoji471][emoji471]

P.S. Cyclone is nice too and also won’t destroy your arm like RPM [emoji56]




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Ace is amazing! You sold me a racquet strung with Ace and I used it to hit with @vsbabolat at the NTC for 30 glorious minutes and he commented that my ball was noticeably heavier than the Kevlar/ALU hybrid I was using in my main frames.

J
 
J011yroger said:
Ace is amazing! You sold me a racquet strung with Ace and I used it to hit with @vsbabolat at the NTC for 30 glorious minutes and he commented that my ball was noticeably heavier than the Kevlar/ALU hybrid I was using in my main frames.

J
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Yes! I’ve tried so many different set ups in 42 years playing the game and nothing beats it! All my friends immediately notice the difference in my spin (for the worse!!) when I slide in a new set up!

We need to get back on court J-Man !!! Been far too long.

BHBH


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J011yroger said:
Update, we are having a girls 18s national tournament at my club, and I have been warming up a few of the kids for matches, played with a 5 star for an hour and no issues at all. Will use with my normal practice partner again. Tempted to take video but it's pretty cold and windy so I don't know if it's worth recording myself shanking balls into the stratosphere for an hour.

J
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I'm getting sick of my babolat pro hurricane tour string snapping off too often. I just ordered Luxilon Big Banger Alu Power 15. I hope it will last longer.
 
Been using Cyclone 16 for years in a hybrid with V-Feel 16. The other day I just decided to switch to a poly that has better tension maintenance just to see what it's like. I went with Solinco Hyper-G in 16L and honestly I rather like what I'm getting with it. I feel like I have a bit more control on my shots and I'm hoping it holds it's tension better than Volkl Cyclone.
 
Big_Dangerous said:
Been using Cyclone 16 for years in a hybrid with V-Feel 16. The other day I just decided to switch to a poly that has better tension maintenance just to see what it's like. I went with Solinco Hyper-G in 16L and honestly I rather like what I'm getting with it. I feel like I have a bit more control on my shots and I'm hoping it holds it's tension better than Volkl Cyclone.
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What tension did you use with the Hyper-G 16L? I liked the 18g and 17g, went to the 16L for more control and boy did I get what I asked for. Felt like I couldn't hit the ball hard enough and played terrible because I tried to overhit every ball. Strung it at 47lbs in my Prince TT95, strung the 18/17g at 49lbs and they felt great except I couldn't hit anything short of the service line.
 
Sir Faultalot said:
What tension did you use with the Hyper-G 16L? I liked the 18g and 17g, went to the 16L for more control and boy did I get what I asked for. Felt like I couldn't hit the ball hard enough and played terrible because I tried to overhit every ball. Strung it at 47lbs in my Prince TT95, strung the 18/17g at 49lbs and they felt great except I couldn't hit anything short of the service line.
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I went right at 51 pounds with a multi in the crosses at 54. But then again the conditions here are still pretty warm compared to the Northern United States, so the higher tension is better in warmer conditions. Once the temperatures start to drop, that's when I usually lower my tension to around 48-50 in the mains. I found it had pretty decent power, didn't notice it being any worse than what I had been using with Cyclone in the mains.
 
Big_Dangerous said:
Been using Cyclone 16 for years in a hybrid with V-Feel 16. The other day I just decided to switch to a poly that has better tension maintenance just to see what it's like. I went with Solinco Hyper-G in 16L and honestly I rather like what I'm getting with it. I feel like I have a bit more control on my shots and I'm hoping it holds it's tension better than Volkl Cyclone.
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Hyper-G has WAY better tension stability than Cyclone (and lots of well known polys...) without feeling stiff and harsh.
Hyper-G is the BEST shaped string in the market for good club players who play with spin. That's for sure! Especially the 16g in my opinion.
You can play hard with massive spin for hours (max 13 for me) without any pain and always with great control, touch and feel.
Fantastic string!!! :love:
 
liftordie said:
Hyper-G has WAY better tension stability than Cyclone (and lots of well known polys...) without feeling stiff and harsh.
Hyper-G is the BEST shaped string in the market for good club players who play with spin. That's for sure! Especially the 16g in my opinion.
You can play hard with massive spin for hours (max 13 for me) without any pain and always with great control, touch and feel.
Fantastic string!!! :love:
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I just haven’t seen that. I’m on the last of my second reel of 16 gauge cyclone. To verify your opinion I just ordered another set each of 16 and 16L hyper g. I’m all for good competition. I have no allegiances, just want the most solid poly for a relatively good price.
 
red rook said:
I just haven’t seen that. I’m on the last of my second reel of 16 gauge cyclone. To verify your opinion I just ordered another set each of 16 and 16L hyper g. I’m all for good competition. I have no allegiances, just want the most solid poly for a relatively good price.
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Cyclone will never have better tension maintenance than Hyper-G. In any gauge.
And Cyclone is really harder on the arm than Hyper-G. Especially in 16g!
I let you re-try yourself but if by any case you say that you don't think the same, I already can say to you that you are wrong!!! :-D(y)
 
red rook said:
I just haven’t seen that. I’m on the last of my second reel of 16 gauge cyclone. To verify your opinion I just ordered another set each of 16 and 16L hyper g. I’m all for good competition. I have no allegiances, just want the most solid poly for a relatively good price.
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That hasn't been my experience with Hyper-G either. It's a good string but starts off feeling pretty muted and just gets more so over the first few hours. By the 10 hour mark it is feeling pretty dead.

Black Cyclone 1.25 has been my son's go-to string for the past few years. He's a hard hitting 4.5 and likes the litle bit of spring that Cyclone gives him. I'm having him try Silver 7 Tour but it might give him too much power in his Pure Drive Tour + though he likes the added crispness over Cyclone, and it has added spin to his lefty serve. Black Cyclone lasts him a few weeks but he only hits twice a week currently.
 
liftordie said:
Cyclone will never have better tension maintenance than Hyper-G. In any gauge.
And Cyclone is really harder on the arm than Hyper-G. Especially in 16g!
I let you re-try yourself but if by any case you say that you don't think the same, I already can say to you that you are wrong!!! :-D(y)
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liftordie said:
Cyclone will never have better tension maintenance than Hyper-G. In any gauge.
And Cyclone is really harder on the arm than Hyper-G. Especially in 16g!
I let you re-try yourself but if by any case you say that you don't think the same, I already can say to you that you are wrong!!! :-D(y)
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Trying both I tend to agree that original cyclone in 16g feels stiffer than Hyper-G out of the box. Tension for both do come into play though.

I'm pretty sure that's why they came out with Cyclone Tour as an axially twisted string which, while not gear shape, was softer than the original.

Cyclone 17g was def nice than 16, but didn't last long

Currently Tourna BHS7T 17g is my favorite of the group of gear shaped. Tier One Tour Status 17g is up there along with Hyper-G 17 as well.
 
I played with Hyper G 17g for about a month for the first time on my Blade v7 18x20. It's a really solid strings. Compliments the racquet really well. I do not find it harsh.. It's not the softest poly either but considering i play about 10hours a week and do not feel much of anything on my elbow/arm (maybe slight sore next day when i massage it) is a testament that it's OK for me (comfort-wise). It's not as comfy as Signum pro xp but it's also a better spin and control string. It is less powerful than XP (which is a good thing for me). I have not played xp on the blade so will try that as well. Blade is very much control oriented so it may be a good combo with XP. I do see a lot of people talk about Hyper G tension maintenance and playability duration being bad but i did not witness anything close to that. On the contrary, still maintaining its good characteristics after 15 hours or so for me. TW playtesters gotten 2 to 3 weeks out of these strings and rate it high in playability duration. My experience confirms that.
 
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AA7 said:
I played with Hyper G 17g for about a month for the first time on my Blade v7 18x20. It's a really solid strings. Compliments the racquet really well. I do not find it harsh.. It's not the softest poly either but considering i play about 10hours a week and do not feel much of anything on my elbow/arm (maybe slight sore next day when i massage it) is a testament that it's OK for me (comfort-wise). It's not as comfy as Signum pro xp but it's also a better spin and control string. It is less powerful than XP (which is a good thing for me). I have not played xp on the blade so will try that as well. Blade is very much control oriented so it may be a good combo with XP. I do see a lot of people talk about Hyper G tension maintenance and playability duration being bad but i did not witness anything close to that. On the contrary, still maintaining its good characteristics after 15 hours or so for me. TW playtesters gotten 2 to 3 weeks out of these strings and rate it high in playability duration. My experience confirms that.
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I agree with the surprisingly long playability from the 17g Hyper-G. I've noticed a big difference in performance between string gages from Solinco, which I don't think is a bad thing, but in HG the 17g was completely different than the 16Lg. I had effortless power with the 17g, which was really not the case with the 16L.
 
AA7 said:
I played with Hyper G 17g for about a month for the first time on my Blade v7 18x20. It's a really solid strings. Compliments the racquet really well. I do not find it harsh.. It's not the softest poly either but considering i play about 10hours a week and do not feel much of anything on my elbow/arm (maybe slight sore next day when i massage it) is a testament that it's OK for me (comfort-wise). It's not as comfy as Signum pro xp but it's also a better spin and control string. It is less powerful than XP (which is a good thing for me). I have not played xp on the blade so will try that as well. Blade is very much control oriented so it may be a good combo with XP. I do see a lot of people talk about Hyper G tension maintenance and playability duration being bad but i did not witness anything close to that. On the contrary, still maintaining its good characteristics after 15 hours or so for me. TW playtesters gotten 2 to 3 weeks out of these strings and rate it high in playability duration. My experience confirms that.
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That's the total, complete and only one real reality, man. ;) (y)
I can only add that Hyper-G 16g play great even longer. And give more spin and control.
 
Sir Faultalot said:
I agree with the surprisingly long playability from the 17g Hyper-G. I've noticed a big difference in performance between string gages from Solinco, which I don't think is a bad thing, but in HG the 17g was completely different than the 16Lg. I had effortless power with the 17g, which was really not the case with the 16L.
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There might be something with solinco and bad 16l offerings b/c tour bite and outlast both suck in that gauge as well.
 
Hmm. Haven't read the entire thread but I am not feeling the love for Cyclone here. I have played with Volkl Cyclone for half a decade now in every kind of racquet you can think of. And with college level kids, not rec level uncles and hackers. It's a very well priced string that does everything well and doesn't hurt the arm (unless you string it way high). String it under 50 lbs in any racquet, and it's decent enough (minus the sometimes plasticky feel).

I mean yeah, it doesn't have the performance of ALU Power (what string does for the matter?) but it is priced accordingly too. Hyper-G is a great string and better than Cyclone, but it is also 12 bucks a set and the reel is 30 bucks more. Cyclone is much cheaper at some places and for a poly user who strings up often, the cost adds up quick.

Also, my local college team players get free Solinco strings so I have tried Hyper G in every gauge available. Lasts the same as Cyclone for me. Better feel and feedback sure, but when it comes to playability and duration, all decent polys are in same ball park, usually. Rule of thumb: thinner gauges are livelier and die faster. Thicker ones have less feedback/feel and not as lively. Neither lasts long once you start taking big cuts at the ball.

If a poly string is lasting you more than 10 hours, chances are you don't need poly because you don't have the racquet head speed to generate the requisite snap back beneficial to the user. No poly lasts longer than 10-12 hours of play for big hitters. You either break the string, or it dies and you get zero snap back which is easy to tell. Poly strings aren't designed for long term use anyway.
 
Cyclone is better than rpm blast but not as good as T1 black knight. (Both more expensive)

Black, shaped, polys aren't all that different from each other. (Even black covered multis can do a reasonable facsimile for 2-5 hours)
 
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haqq777 said:
Hmm. Haven't read the entire thread but I am not feeling the love for Cyclone here. I have played with Volkl Cyclone for half a decade now in every kind of racquet you can think of. And with college level kids, not rec level uncles and hackers. It's a very well priced string that does everything well and doesn't hurt the arm (unless you string it way high). String it under 50 lbs in any racquet, and it's decent enough (minus the sometimes plasticky feel).

I mean yeah, it doesn't have the performance of ALU Power (what string does for the matter?) but it is priced accordingly too. Hyper-G is a great string and better than Cyclone, but it is also 12 bucks a set and the reel is 30 bucks more. Cyclone is much cheaper at some places and for a poly user who strings up often, the cost adds up quick.

Also, my local college team players get free Solinco strings so I have tried Hyper G in every gauge available. Lasts the same as Cyclone for me. Better feel and feedback sure, but when it comes to playability and duration, all decent polys are in same ball park, usually. Rule of thumb: thinner gauges are livelier and die faster. Thicker ones have less feedback/feel and not as lively. Neither lasts long once you start taking big cuts at the ball.

If a poly string is lasting you more than 10 hours, chances are you don't need poly because you don't have the racquet head speed to generate the requisite snap back beneficial to the user. No poly lasts longer than 10-12 hours of play for big hitters. You either break the string, or it dies and you get zero snap back which is easy to tell. Poly strings aren't designed for long term use anyway.
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I break Hyper-G 16 in 12/13 hours and it keep acceptable playability until the end.
I think 30€ more than Cyclone for a reel is really not a big deal... Hyper-G is WAY better than Cyclone. Hyper-G is the perfect string for good club players who want spin and control, and want to preserve their arm.
 
liftordie said:
I break Hyper-G 16 in 12/13 hours and it keep acceptable playability until the end.
I think 30€ more than Cyclone for a reel is really not a big deal... Hyper-G is WAY better than Cyclone. Hyper-G is the perfect string for good club players who want spin and control, and want to preserve their arm.
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You keep using the word "perfect". Yes, for you it might work but that doesn't mean it works well necessarily for everyone. Different people have different strokes and how they play depends on a lot of factors. The idea of a perfect string is very subjective. Like I know you loved Grapplesnake strings and we exchanged notes on a bunch of their offerings. I did not like any if them too much. So yes, different people can like different things. Not a big deal.

As for the price, for you 30€ might not be a big deal but for broke college students and others without a lot of disposable income, it can all add up. Wholesale Cyclone is even cheaper.

And try stringing low if you are worried about your arm. I have never had arm issues with Cyclone. I vary tensions from 50 lbs all the way down to 35 lbs depending on what I am in the mood for.
 
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haqq777 said:
You keep using the word "perfect". Yes, for you it might work but that doesn't mean it works well necessarily for everyone. Different people have different strokes and how they play depends on a lot of factors. The idea of a perfect string is very subjective. Like I know you loved Grapplesnake strings and we exchanged notes on a bunch of their offerings. I did not like any if them too much. So yes, different people can like different things. Not a big deal.

As for the price, for you 30€ might not be a big deal but for broke college students and others without a lot of disposable income, it can all add up. Wholesale Cyclone is even cheaper.

And try stringing low if you are worried about your arm. I have never had arm issues with Cyclone. I vary tensions from 50 lbs all the way down to 35 lbs depending on what I am in the mood for.
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Amen! I still use Cyclone because its cheap. That and some of my left over Isospeed Baseline.
 
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