Just bought a stringway ml 90

Thanks everyone for the help in choosing my machine, and sorry for the countless questions / annoying posts in this section the last couple days.. Mark from alpha/stringway was very nice about everything, and helped me finalize my decision on the stringway ml 90 (with double action t98 clamps with a table lock) It should arrive on Thursday, so I will take pics and do a short review on it. One thing I forgot to ask about was the mounting on the ml 90, i read it is inside mounting, how secure is this in comparison to the normal 6 pt mounting like on the revo? Thanks
 
Congrats. The mounting on those are supposed to be a lot better than traditional mounts.

awesome, thanks, another question though, since this stringer doesn't come with a diablo, won't teh string be entering at different angles causing tension to be slightly off ( i think thats the purpose of a diablo)? actually, cant i just make sure the racket is angled so the string coming out of it is in a straight line with the tensioner so the angle will be the same everytime?
 
No diablo is needed on that type of gripper since the string is coming at the gripper at the same angle, and the gripper is at a fixed location, relative to the racquet. The edge of your tensioning unit acts sort of like a diablo.

Diablos help linear grippers on cranks to put less pressure on the string, and helps with the consistency of the angle of pull.
 
No diablo is needed on that type of gripper since the string is coming at the gripper at the same angle, and the gripper is at a fixed location, relative to the racquet.

Diablos help linear grippers on cranks to put less pressure on the string, and helps with the consistency of the angle of pull.

ah ok, thank you
 
I have the same exact machine. Great choice. I'm loving it!
 
awesome, thanks, another question though, since this stringer doesn't come with a diablo, won't teh string be entering at different angles causing tension to be slightly off ( i think thats the purpose of a diablo)? actually, cant i just make sure the racket is angled so the string coming out of it is in a straight line with the tensioner so the angle will be the same everytime?

The diablo is also (more?) to relieve stress on the gripper, since you have an added point of "pull," the grippers don't have to... grip, as tight. This is more gentle on the string. That's the main benefit I see from a Diablo, at least. As far as angling your racquet, no, don't do it, and no, it's not necessary.

No diablo is needed on that type of gripper since the string is coming at the gripper at the same angle, and the gripper is at a fixed location, relative to the racquet. The edge of your tensioning unit acts sort of like a diablo.

Diablos help linear grippers on cranks to put less pressure on the string, and helps with the consistency of the angle of pull.
It's my impression that it's more of a distance, not location thing with the SW gripper. Although that's probably exactly what you meant.
 
Thanks everyone for the help in choosing my machine, and sorry for the countless questions / annoying posts in this section the last couple days.. Mark from alpha/stringway was very nice about everything, and helped me finalize my decision on the stringway ml 90 (with double action t98 clamps with a table lock) It should arrive on Thursday, so I will take pics and do a short review on it. One thing I forgot to ask about was the mounting on the ml 90, i read it is inside mounting, how secure is this in comparison to the normal 6 pt mounting like on the revo? Thanks

I think the long run you will be very happy you went with the Stringway. Congratulations!
 
IwishIwasbetter - what made you go with the ML90 instead of the Revo 4000? I am in the process of buying a stringing machine and would like your reasoning for going with the Ml90 over the Revo 4000.
 
IwishIwasbetter - what made you go with the ML90 instead of the Revo 4000? I am in the process of buying a stringing machine and would like your reasoning for going with the Ml90 over the Revo 4000.

I'm not the OP, but I had to make the same decision as the OP, and I also chose the ML90.

Originally, I planned on upgrading from my SP Swing to a SP Crump or Alpha Revo.


Then, I noticed the Laserfibre Quantum. Long story short, I got jipped, got my money back (never got the machine either), and ordered the ML90 because it was the only other Automatic dropweight near my price range ($700ish for the fixed clamps w/brake was a bit more than I originally wanted to pay).

If I could go back, it would still be a tossup between the Stringway machine that I purchased and the Alpha Revo (looking back, the Gamma Progression ST is a great machine as well, though a little bit more expensive).

Here is how I break it down:

Mounting: Draw. The 6 pt on the Revo and Gamma seems quicker, but the Stringway seems to put less stress on the frame (i'm a little bit anal on mounting and double check things, so it'll probably be similar amount of time for most people). Plus, the 6 pt is more universal.
Tensioner: I absolutely love the Auto dropweight. Fantastic constant pull. Though it can be a little bit more cumbersome on stretchy strings, it's still great for the most part. (Note: This is kind of a good and bad quality. The constant pull lets me know if my clamps are slipping, especially on the initial pulls where clamp slippage is most common. This is the good part. The bad part is now I know that my clamps need adjustment, and it pisses me off when I have to adjust the clamps a lot (especially on multis)).
Clamps: Though I've only used the Stringway clamps, i'm kind of leaning towards the Alpha or Gamma clamps. The clamp bases are great on the Stringway, quick and easy, but since they are turned and point up when locked, it takes a little bit of space, and can make crosses a bit more difficult (I easily solve this by turning the clamps around by the 5th and 6th cross). The bases on the Alpha and Gamma seem more discreet (nod to the Alpha base here due to easier use). The big kicker for me though is that the Alpha and Gamma clamps are thumbwheel adjustable, plus they're diamond dusted. My Stringways are not diamond dusted and are adjusted by allen wrench. Sometimes, I have to play with the adjustment quite a bit or I have to clean them, and I think that a diamond dusted clamp would be much better. I'm going to e-mail Alpha/Stringway about this just for reassurement.
Looks/Aesthetics: I have to say that the Gamma Progression ST just looks fantastic. I love the curvy, red, black, and gold color scheme. Though I love the cool look of the Stringway machine as well (Sorry Alpha, but the Revo looks a bit plain compared to these other too, though it still looks good as well :D)
Price/Value: Though the Stringway is the cheapest, convenient constant pull (I say convenient because a regular dropweight would just be too time consuming for me), the Alpha gets the nod here for value. I think the price is just right with that model of machine.

Just my 2 cents :D
 
Price/Value: Though the Stringway is the cheapest, convenient constant pull (I say convenient because a regular dropweight would just be too time consuming for me), the Alpha gets the nod here for value. I think the price is just right with that model of machine.


Are you sure? I thought Stringway was the most expensive, their website says $699 for the ML90 with fixed clamps.

I am also thinking about getting either a ML90, ML100 or the Revo 4000, any reason you'd go with a Revo over the ML100?

How do you like the T98 clamps? Is it worth the extra 100 bucks for the T92's?
 
Are you sure? I thought Stringway was the most expensive, their website says $699 for the ML90 with fixed clamps.

I am also thinking about getting either a ML90, ML100 or the Revo 4000, any reason you'd go with a Revo over the ML100?

How do you like the T98 clamps? Is it worth the extra 100 bucks for the T92's?

By cheapest, I meant cheapest Automatic dropweight (i'm not counting the Laserfibre Quantum because I have doubts over it's existence).

And the ML100, as far as I know, has a slightly better mounting system (Mark upgraded mine for free since he found out after my purchase that they were out of stock of the 091 mounting, so I got 092 (I may have the models switched, but I got the better one that comes with the ML100)). Also, the ML100 comes with the automatic sensory jaw. You can upgrade for that for like $30 bucks later on.

I still think that the benefits the Revo holds over the ML90 it also holds over the ML100, though this is based solely off features and not actual use (I haven't used the Revo or ML100).

As for the clamps, the T92s are super tempting! I have experience with a prince neos, and single action clamps are nice! But, you don't really need them unless you want that comfort, or if you will be doing many frames (I don't do enough to warrant the extra 100 bucks).

The T98 clamps are great, but again, I find that I have to clean them and adjust them too often (IMO, though I still have to e-mail Alpha with some questions, and I guess I may also be doing more frames than I previously did, so maybe it's in my head that I'm adjusting them more often?).
 
IwishIwasbetter - what made you go with the ML90 instead of the Revo 4000? I am in the process of buying a stringing machine and would like your reasoning for going with the Ml90 over the Revo 4000.

well actaully haha i ended up returning the strinway ml 90 to get the revo..i realized wehn i gotthe stringway ml 90, just looking at the machine and how the racket is mounted and the tensioner and everything i was not going to enjoy it since i was so used to stringing on a crank, i returned it and got the alpha revo 4000, which is very simple and convenient for me. Am i saying the revo is a better machne? nope, because the ml 90 can a)has more potential to string accuately and b) the mounting system puts a little less stress on the frame, although the revo can be very accurate as long as you clamp the string asap after the string is pulled on each string, and its mounting system is more than secure enough too. I just didn't want to go through the headache of learning how to string on a ml 90 properly..I can still say its a toss up between both machines, but overall, i think the revo is a better deal at $100 less ,

also, take into account, teh revo will come with a lot of string, while the stringway will not..
 
well actaully haha i ended up returning the strinway ml 90 to get the revo..

also, take into account, teh revo will come with a lot of string, while the stringway will not..

Wow, +1 for the Revo, and -1 for Stringway.

Can anyone also confirm that Alpha doesn't give you its usual freebies of strings with a Stringway machine? Surely tools are included though, right?
 
Wow, +1 for the Revo, and -1 for Stringway.

Can anyone also confirm that Alpha doesn't give you its usual freebies of strings with a Stringway machine? Surely tools are included though, right?

I know im not someone else but I asked mark about the free string and the stringway and he said no he can't give any free string with any stringway machines, only with alpha machines, all necessary tools are included with both alpha and stringway machines.
 
I was also considering ML90 and ML100, but finally chose ML100. No regrets at all, as it is an excellent stringing machine and it makes the stringing a tiny bit easier than ML90. SW flying clamps (triple + double) are great too...I didn't want fixed clamps.
 
I was also considering ML90 and ML100, but finally chose ML100. No regrets at all, as it is an excellent stringing machine and it makes the stringing a tiny bit easier than ML90. SW flying clamps (triple + double) are great too...I didn't want fixed clamps.

How many double clamps and triple clamp you have?
 
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