Just capped my Head Elite Pro

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  1. Kal-El 34

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    She's a beauty

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  2. v-verb

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    Testify!!! Very nice Kal
     
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    nice, BUT you shoud have used presitge IG caps
     
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    No Way!:twisted:
     
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    what size & model caps did you use?

    dayum, I saw your post & got inspired to strip down a Head Comp.
    Looked like same shape mold.

    Now that its clean & naked on the bench... noticed its 18x19...??! :(
     
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    MG/YT Prestige Mid grommets.

    The HEAD Comp Pro is 18x20. The Graphite/ Comp Pro is a different mold to the Prestige Pro, Elite Pro, and Elektra Pro.
     
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    I quite enjoyed the flex on that racket. I just wished I could find one from the same era ("VCS besonders armschonend" decal) with similar flex but in a larger headsize 630-660cm.
     
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    There was no 630 headsize back then. The Comp Master or Graphite Master might be what you are looking for. I think the Prestige Master would be a good choice too.
     
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    still vacuuming out the 10001 bits of white shattered plastics... :?

    Turns out its a white Composite Master, looks more like a mid plus than mid.
    74 holes around hoop so it's 18x19.

    thanks VSb, encyclopaedic as always :)
     
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    vsbabolat is right. no way i was putting the clear grommets on there. matter of fact, i took them off my IG prestiges and put the black ones on there. looks much better


    the elite pro is a soft, buttery frame. i really enjoyed a hit with it yesterday :)
     
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    what??? you guys dont know a thing about design and style, the clear cap would show off the pretty green WAY more.

    (shakes head)
     
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    normally i'd agree on better esthetics with black caps

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    but recently i had to go clear on the Zebra... otherwise kinda
    looked weird with black outside shortcircuiting all the diagonal stripes

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    & its all the local Head rep can get their hands on lately,
    no other choice if i need something quick within the week :|
     
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    I plan to do that with my radical Zebra, but yours is UV burnt.

    heres one of my pt630 (looks way better in the day light)

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    Composite Master is 660cm2/102sq.in head size. It was oversize back in the day but is now midplus by modern standards.
     
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    Looks like you wrapped the head in a prophylactic. :(
     
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    looks better with out the flash
     
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    yeah it's seriously yellowed, but its done so very evenly all over. :confused:

    Recent arrival & previous owner said he got it like that & didn't have it too long
    either so can only guess how it got that way. Doesn't show much sign of playage
    so it can't be just the sun. I'm suspecting it was on display under 24hr fluoro
    or halogen shoplighting and quite likely shopkeep was a heavy smoker,
    possibly Italian.

    Can't complain, gives it unique patina & matches my yellow skin tone :twisted:
     
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  18. Tamiya

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    102.5 they print on the throat side. Made in USA.
     
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    I also think the clear IG grommets would make the sparkling green underneath look really nice.
    And that's despite I had to install black grommets on my IG Prestiges...
     
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    wonder if the clear polymer can be dyed, would make it more interesting :)
     
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  21. Kal-El 34

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    sorry to all but i have not seen a racket with clear caps that looks even remotely good in my opinion...
     
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  22. Tamiya

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    for sure they don't look good when scuffed, worse when clay debris collects underneath
     
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  23. Kal-El 34

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    or when they are clean

    check the prestiges. try and make a case that the clear looks even close to better

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    With the Prestige, you're absolutely right.
    However, the Elite had a white, sort of semi-CAP at the top of the head only. So that's the "original" look, which was very classy, in my opinion. And that's why I think the clear CAPs would actually resemble the white-green combination. Would have to see them installed on the racket, though. The black CAPs look nice, too, but they give the Elite something of a "mean" appearance, not as "light" as the clear CAPs may give it.
     
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  25. Kal-El 34

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    if there were white caps no doubt would look better. the clear caps dont let the color underneath shine or anything. just looks like you wrapped the rackets with an old milk jug
     
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  26. scotus

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    Except it is not clear. It is milky, or murky, white.
     
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    paint em! from the underside
     
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  28. Kal-El 34

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    way too much work... i'll stick with the black. gives it an edge
     
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    one day when I'm ever really really bored I'll try dyeing a set :)
     
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    Why did Head decided to go with the clear CAPs on their newer Prestiges? It doesn't really fit with the frame at all...
     
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    I have black MG CAPs, trimmed to original dimensions, on my Elite Pros.

    I think they look even better than the original white CAPs; it blends in nicely with the black paint fade at the top of the frame. Makes it look like a serious tool, not some chintzy trendy techno toy like the clear ones do.
     
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  32. Alex78

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    pic required please, retrowagen :)
    I can imagine it looks cool - I only have the image of the original, semi-capped Elite Pro in my mind, that's why I'm not sooo enthusiastic about the fully-capped variant.
     
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    As requested...
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    BTW, if I were installing an integrated grommet/bumper guard on an original iMac, I'd totally not hesitate to use a clear YT CAP! :lol:
     
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  34. mad dog1

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    ^^ very nice! what did you use to trim the CAPs? a steady hand and a utility knife? i have a comp pro that is too hefty for me to swing w/ full caps. might like to try it w/ trimmed CAPs.
     
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    Bingo! Be very careful, or you wind up with red CAPS (and everything else, and no tennis for a few weeks)... :shock: :cry: :oops:
     
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  36. mad dog1

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    hope you aren't speaking from personal experience? :shock:

    btw, would you mind posting a photo of the racquet from the side so i can see the grommet channel? many thanks in advance!
     
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  37. taurussable

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    nice, what modern racquet has most similar twaron feel?
     
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    None really. But the closest IMHO is the IG Prestige Mid. It is stiffer but is solid and none of the modern vibration going on.
     
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  39. retrowagen

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    "Tis but a scratch!" Yeah, I did have the bonus of trimming my fingertip on one of the first ones I undertook. I've done roughly one dozen trimmed CAPS for my quiver of Elite Pros (and a few for friends).
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    I'll see what I can do in a few days. Just moved house, and racquets and camera are not yet unpacked... :-?
     
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    funny! not the cutting off your fingertip part. funny because when you mentioned it the first time, i actually thought about monty python. :lol:

    i'm in no rush to part w/ my fingertip so no rush on the photo. ;) thanks.
     
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    Thanks, retrowagen!
    Have a good time settling in your new home btw!
     
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    Thank you! It's a lot of work - I've been renovating the house for the last five weeks (on top of my normal job, plus a one-hour commute on either end of my working day); finally got to move my family in last week. In addition to a nice, larger house, I now am blessed to have a massive workshop for my other hobby - restoring classic automobiles - on 2.6 acres of beautiful land here in the hills of Northern California. I had a room built in the workshop to accomodate my stringing machine and a little space to store my racquet collection comfortably. Next year's project is to build a clay court in my front yard! :)
     
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    Wow, that's just amazing! Hats off to you for doing all these projects! Hope you can really enjoy it all :)
     
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    heck yeah, even Head daren't argue... come 25th anniversary time

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    unfortunately our local stocks of black mid caps have dried up, even the
    local Head rep couldn't source anything but the clears when needed urgently
    so i had to do this to a 600 :oops:

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    Pigeon-pair look is growing on me though. Slowly!

    Capped crusaders so far:-

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    ^^^ hmm only just noticed later 'HEAD' reads the other way :?



    Jealous! Nice setup & sounds like nice vineyard country.

    We're stuck in city apartment with zero land, no place to swing a trolleyjack.
    Moved out from suburban bungalow mostly to avoid 2hr/day stuck in traffic
    and weekends wasted mowing lawn, gardening & maintaining a house.

    Should've just tarred over the grass and put up a net. :)
     
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  46. Kal-El 34

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    that capped LM radical is nice. i may cap my LM Radical Tours, i think i still have 1 or 2 around here somewhere. just got new caps for my prestige classics. Was going to stick with the original brown ones but they were just too scuffed up.

    going to black cap the rest of my tgt292.1 prestige mids as well. the elite pro is a fun stick to hit with. really enjoy this frame
     
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    I thought 102 was still midplus back in the day with Head having a "Director" line as their oversize racquets...even saw an old Head advertisement where they compared Director racquets to Prince OS racquets at the time.
     
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  48. retrowagen

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    From 1980-1985, the Director shape was indeed Head's "oversize" - though it only measured 95 sq-in or so, in a very elongated shape. Head's thinking at the time was that the major problem with the Prince 110 was that it "trampolined" terribly and lacked control. By having a head shape with shorter crosses (though admittedly long mains), and denser pattern, they thought their design would offer more control and less trampolining. The Director shape was superceded in 1986 by the 102 sq-in Master series as the "official" Head oversize series of frames. And the Professional (or simply Pro) line, introduced for 1986, at 89.5 sq-in, was their official "midplus" at the time - though the boundaries between sizes was a bit nebulous in the industry at the time, anything larger than 85 and smaller than 100 or so was generally classified as Midplus, until the smaller, traditional mids, such as the 80 sq-in Edge series, became extinct (in Head's case, in 1989). The sizes were eventually quietly reclassified, when Head introduced the 98 sq-in models (Trisys 260 and PT630) in the early 90's.

    Hope that clears it up for you.
     
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