JUST realized. This is now Nadal's Wimbledon to WIN like the French

Fedace

Banned
Look at today's match. The Grass courts at wimbledon is now playing just like the Clay courts of French open. Ball bounces HIGH and Slow and bad bounce.
Today day #1 should be the fastest condition with brand new grass but NO. Roger is taken to 5th set by a Clay courter. Falla found the grass playing just like Clay.

RAFA will beat everyone with ease now with condition like this.:)
 
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TennisandMusic

Guest
The ball does not bounce high at all. Please go watch the matches instead of believing a few things you read around here.
 

miyagi

Professional
Hmmmm didnt seem like clay to me? Plus I did hear any of the players mention anything! Also not sure Rafa will win this either
 

Fedace

Banned
I definitely heard on tennis channel that all the players were saying the ball is bouncing higher than EVER in history of W. Coming from Martina Navratilova herself.................Legend
 

West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
Look at today's match. The Grass courts at wimbledon is now playing just like the Clay courts of French open. Ball bounces HIGH and Slow and bad bounce.
Today day #1 should be the fastest condition with brand new grass but NO. Roger is taken to 5th set by a Clay courter. Falla found the grass playing just like Clay.

RAFA will beat everyone with ease now with condition like this.:)
Very true.

But Kei Nishikori just called - he said "Tell Fedace that I'm pulling the mother of all upsets tomorrow and you better show up in Tokyo and kiss his..." (reception got bad).
 
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TennisandMusic

Guest
Here is an old grass match. Look at how the ball moves through the court (or doesn't really) and the height of the bounces even with much lower spin than what we see today. Of course you can't ignore they are using wooden racquets, but if you think this is WAY different than it is now, then I suggest a trip to the optometrist. :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePo6KcGQd4M&feature=related
 
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decades

Guest
the court looked fast to me. maybe it needs to be worn down but it was fast today.
 

Fedace

Banned
Here is an old grass match. Look at how the ball moves through the court (or doesn't really) and the height of the bounces even with much lower spin than what we see today. Of course you can't ignore they are using wooden racquets, but if you think this is WAY different than it is now, then I suggest a trip to the optometrist. :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePo6KcGQd4M&feature=related

Get real. All the pros are saying this is nothing like the Old grass. they added bermuda Rye grass into the old grass to make it tougher. and now it is slow and high bouncing. they must now added even more Rye grass to make it like 90% Rye.... no wonder it is playing like clay.
 

vortex1

Banned
Nadal isn't going to disgrace himself today like Federer. Overhyped Nishikori has no chance to even break the new Grass King.
 

West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
go look up how Wimbledon added different tough grass to make the court greener longer.
You're troll feeding now. And the *******s don't need any more fattening up.

Everyone who is over 14 and knows tennis knows the conditions are WAY slower at Wimby than they were in the 90s.
 

hydRa

New User
Look at today's match. The Grass courts at wimbledon is now playing just like the Clay courts of French open. Ball bounces HIGH and Slow and bad bounce.
Today day #1 should be the fastest condition with brand new grass but NO. Roger is taken to 5th set by a Clay courter. Falla found the grass playing just like Clay.

RAFA will beat everyone with ease now with condition like this.:)

just listen to i-view with Rog after match... he clearly says that "the thing here always is that there is no bad bounces..." and also that "the courts are not the fastest anymore but depends on how you play, you can always overpower the other guy..."
 
Nadal isn't going to disgrace himself today like Federer. Overhyped Nishikori has no chance to even break the new Grass King.

Nadal has one wimby...I don't doubt he will win more (including this year) but calling him the New Grass king is more premature than most high school boys. Sampras 7, Federer 6, Nadal 1. I say give him a few more years before that debate starts
 

Mustard

Bionic Poster
Good Kei lost to Nadal 2 years ago at Queens. so bad Kei that just came off injury time off should get Bageled.:)

I mean that I need to see Nadal in action at Wimbledon before I can get a better idea of how far I think he'll go in the tournament. I sensed in both 2007 and 2008, especially the latter, that he was really ready to win Wimbledon. Whether he can do it this year, I don't know. I need to see his movement, how good his serve is, how good his groundstrokes are, and how he's dictating the points.
 
i'm pretty sure roddick beat nadal earlier this year on slower conditions in miami. so he's gotta have a decent chance this year if they play in the final. he'll prlly be relieved that he's not having to play fed for once. plus last time he won a major it was against the a spanish french open champion who was #1 at the time :)
 

hydRa

New User
i'm pretty sure roddick beat nadal earlier this year on slower conditions in miami. so he's gotta have a decent chance this year if they play in the final. he'll prlly be relieved that he's not having to play fed for once. plus last time he won a major it was against the a spanish french open champion who was #1 at the time :)

God I hope so ! Would be amazing match fosho.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
I mean that I need to see Nadal in action at Wimbledon before I can get a better idea of how far I think he'll go in the tournament. I sensed in both 2007 and 2008, especially the latter, that he was really ready to win Wimbledon. Whether he can do it this year, I don't know. I need to see his movement, how good his serve is, how good his groundstrokes are, and how he's dictating the points.

I can't wait to see him play. Hopefully MUCH better than Queens.
 

10ACE

Professional
The ball does not bounce high at all. Please go watch the matches instead of believing a few things you read around here.

They do bounce high, did u watch federer, Hewitt, roddick? The ball was bouncing shoulder high on 2nd serves! The only time I saw a good grass bounce was the last joker match when the roof was closed.

The grass courts I play on do not bounce like that- my legs can vouch for the that.

When I was at Wimbledon years ago I couldn't get over how low the ball bounced and how much knee bend u had to have.

Now these guys bash it outnfrom the baseline!
 

10ACE

Professional
Here is an old grass match. Look at how the ball moves through the court (or doesn't really) and the height of the bounces even with much lower spin than what we see today. Of course you can't ignore they are using wooden racquets, but if you think this is WAY different than it is now, then I suggest a trip to the optometrist. :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePo6KcGQd4M&feature=related

Not a good comparison- that video is from the finals when the court is at it hardest. Dry, hard ground.

Great match though!
 

kishnabe

Talk Tennis Guru
So If this year Wimbledon Champion is Roger Federer defeating Nadal....it is safe to say that Federer of the WImby Final would have beaten Nadal at the French!

If that happens...Nadal win at the French this year is as a fluke...if some people believe Federer win at the French last year!
 

samboy01

Banned
So If this year Wimbledon Champion is Roger Federer defeating Nadal....it is safe to say that Federer of the WImby Final would have beaten Nadal at the French!

If that happens...Nadal win at the French this year is as a fluke...if some people believe Federer win at the French last year!


Federer will never beat Nadal again, anywhere.
 

davey25

Banned
Federer will never beat Nadal again, anywhere.

I actually agree. I hope Federer does follow up on his promise (which I highly doubt the way he is going) to play past 2012 since it will allow Federer to compile a 25-7 record or something if he does. That is if Federer can even get far enough to play Nadal much anymore. Federer couldnt handle Nadal that well even when he was at his best and Nadal was still developing. Now that Federer is clearly in decline it is only going to get worse.
 

mandy01

G.O.A.T.
Exactly, Nadal has a much better attitude that Federer. The work ethic differences are immeasurable.
and you know that because.....????
Anyway,where was Nadal's work ethic and supposedly better attitude when he retired against Andy Murray?
Didn't have the decency to finish the match did he?(I'm sorry I'm having to bring this up in such a manner but if I see posts like these I WILL bring it up.)
 
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davey25

Banned
yea your right, fed just wakes up every day, drinks a 6pack of natty light, zones out on his tv and gets up to play his matches.

I dont know what he is doing of course, only those close to him would. I dont doubt he had very strong work ethic in his prime. However given his lackadaisical effort in non slam events and his obvious decline in playing level, even for his age, I wouldnt be surprised if his commitment to the game isnt so high right now.
 

mandy01

G.O.A.T.
I dont know what he is doing of course, only those close to him would. I dont doubt he had very strong work ethic in his prime. However given his lackadaisical effort in non slam events and his obvious decline in playing level, even for his age, I wouldnt be surprised if his commitment to the game isnt so high right now.
I don't know about commitment but I do sense mental fatigue on his part.I guess that's the price you pay for living upto peoples' expectations more often than not.
 
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Deleted member 21996

Guest
WOW.. Fedace, these last weeks you sure have revealed yourself as "THE TROLL"...

not that i had you in high regard...
 
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Deleted member 77403

Guest
The rules are simple


Rafa wins Wimbledon on extremely slow grass, in fact it is clay with a bit of weed growing on it.

Roger wins French Open on a fast hard court, with a little sprinkle of clay to make it look orange/red.

So if Rafa wins....
 

Nadalfan89

Hall of Fame
*******s just making excuses for Federer's loss already, nothing new and certainly nothing to see here. Move along.
 

NamRanger

G.O.A.T.
The ball does not bounce high at all. Please go watch the matches instead of believing a few things you read around here.




Yeah those AELTC CEO interviews, conflicting statements by the grounds keeper, and testimony by dozens of players means absolutely nothing. Not to mention that little BBC analysis of the grass. But hey, it's YOUR opinion that holds weight around here (along with that silly statistical analysis with no correlation between the numbers etc) and not the testimony of many players who actually play on the stuff, AMIRITE?!
 

david93

Rookie
Federer fans have to except that Federer plays much worse nowadays and Nadal fans have to except that Wimbledon is much slower nowadays.
End of story ;)
 

Ultra2HolyGrail

Hall of Fame
Yup, grass now is like clay...Otherwise, nadal would never win there. Even the australian open was like hard clay when nadal won against federer. Even though the grass is like clay now, somehow roddicks serves are the most effective there. :roll:
 

swordtennis

G.O.A.T.
Yup, grass now is like clay...Otherwise, nadal would never win there. Even the australian open was like hard clay when nadal won against federer. Even though the grass is like clay now, somehow roddicks serves are the most effective there. :roll:

Just have 2 say absolutely adore your avatar picture. Agassi is Hilarious. He really is funny in real life. LOL! Andre!
 

samboy01

Banned
If this is playing like clay, then it means that Roddick should lose pretty soon... In fact, how did he make the final last year???
 
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