Just watched 1978 Goolagong vs. Reid...

TonyB

Hall of Fame
... in the WITC final.

Let me just say that both of these women were severely incredible athletes and would destroy anyone on this forum with their 65 sq. in. wood racquets.

I have watched many older matches and they never cease to amaze me at just how good they really were back then. If anyone wants to get a true appreciation for the quality of the tennis that existed before the new technology in strings and racquets and all the heavy topspin strokes, then you need to try to watch some of those old 1970's classic matches on the Tennis Channel.

I used to think to myself that I could probably beat those players now, but there's just no way. They were really, REALLY good.
 

Bud

Bionic Poster
... in the WITC final.

Let me just say that both of these women were severely incredible athletes and would destroy anyone on this forum with their 65 sq. in. wood racquets.

I have watched many older matches and they never cease to amaze me at just how good they really were back then. If anyone wants to get a true appreciation for the quality of the tennis that existed before the new technology in strings and racquets and all the heavy topspin strokes, then you need to try to watch some of those old 1970's classic matches on the Tennis Channel.

I used to think to myself that I could probably beat those players now, but there's just no way. They were really, REALLY good.
Agreed... there are misconceptions on this forum about how good past players were... men and women :)
 

migjam

Professional
Yeah, and did you see what the winner of that series won? It was like a Chevy Club Wagon Van or something. I just kind of laughed when they showed that as the prize.
 

35ft6

Legend
I used to think to myself that I could probably beat those players now, but there's just no way. They were really, REALLY good.
Of course they were! I'm pretty sure I can beat a 4.5 player with a wooden racket, so just imagine what the best players in the world (back in the 70's) could do.
 

TonyB

Hall of Fame
Yeah, and did you see what the winner of that series won? It was like a Chevy Club Wagon Van or something. I just kind of laughed when they showed that as the prize.

Actually, Borg vs. Tanner is playing on TTC right now and the prize is a Club Wagon.

I had to laugh a little. But hey, that was top of the line back then!
 

TonyB

Hall of Fame
Wish I had seen this! Not enough of Evonne's magic on youtube

If you get the Tennis Channel, you can watch Goolagong at 10 PM tonight (or is it 9 PM, I forget). Anyways, they're playing another WTIC classic match after the Borg/Tanner match that's being played right now.

She was definitely an outstanding player. Again, unless you actually watched these matches, or have seen the replays, you really can't get a full appreciation for just how spectacular those players really were.

Right now I'm watching Tanner's gorgeous backhand and watching him hit absolute ripper forehand approach shots. Incredible what they were able to do with 65 square inch aluminum and wood racquets back then. And hardly any shots off the frame, either!! Not many mis-hits.
 

pc1

G.O.A.T.
Goolagong was great. What impressed me (and trust me I was already impressed by her great play) was that she returned a few serves that Tanner blasted at her and returned it better than most men.

If she could do that to Tanner's serve, she could return Serena's or Venus' also. So smooth and elegant.
 

JoelDali

Talk Tennis Guru
Her passing shots are beautiful and effortless. When I was 10, the pro at our club was this chick from NZ and her main claim to fame was she supposedly played Goolagong.

How cool that they play these, they need to play more.

Junior slam matches as well.

Who has the Federer Junior titles on DVD?

:)
 

35ft6

Legend
Goolagong was great.
There were some great points, but there were moments you could really see Goolagong's weaknesses, like when she could only throw up lobs. Yes yes yes that's a legitimate shot, but in one point she hit three lobs in a row starting with a lob return before losing the point, and she simply looked incapable of hitting a forceful drive off the backhand.

Early on in the match, one of the commentators said aces didn't count in mixed doubles. Was he joking. Also, and I'm not condemning them, but it was pretty funny how "sexist" the commentators were. Reminded me of Anchorman.
 

hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
I used to think to myself that I could probably beat those players now, but there's just no way. They were really, REALLY good.
Yep, the current intellectual fanboy's mantra is "if there ain't no power, there ain't no good."
 

Moose Malloy

G.O.A.T.
Early on in the match, one of the commentators said aces didn't count in mixed doubles. Was he joking. Also, and I'm not condemning them, but it was pretty funny how "sexist" the commentators were. Reminded me of Anchorman.
There was an ace competition during that series(whoever got the most aces that week got a bonus. but the aces had to come in the singles matches, that's all he meant by that remark)

That 'commentator' was Pancho Gonzales(think he was married six times, haha)
 

krosero

Legend
Like all the WITC matches, Goolagong-Reid was played the year before it was broadcast: in this case, they played on Sept. 28, 1977, the second day of the tournament.

(Interesting that the press was talking about the ITF's upcoming decision on whether to ban the "spaghetti racquet." Looks like they banned it on October 3, the day after Nastase beat Vilas).

The commentators called Reid the Australian Open champion, which was true when they played. But Goolagong had won the AO again by the time the match aired in early '78.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
You could probably beat Evonne if you were a legitimate A player in 1977.
That would be close to a Div 1 top singles or 5.5 player nowadaze.
Hard first serves didn't bother the top women then or now. They practice against guys all the time. But at 5'7" heights, they could be aced.
My the time I quit competitive tennis in '78, I'd hit with CeciMartinez, Pea and MarcieLouie, DanaGilbert, SusanBrown, RosieCasals, and IlanaKloss. The last one in '80, actually.
 

pc1

G.O.A.T.
There were some great points, but there were moments you could really see Goolagong's weaknesses, like when she could only throw up lobs. Yes yes yes that's a legitimate shot, but in one point she hit three lobs in a row starting with a lob return before losing the point, and she simply looked incapable of hitting a forceful drive off the backhand.

Early on in the match, one of the commentators said aces didn't count in mixed doubles. Was he joking. Also, and I'm not condemning them, but it was pretty funny how "sexist" the commentators were. Reminded me of Anchorman.
Well Evonne liked to lob a lot but I'm surprised you write she looked in incapable of hitting a forceful drive off the backhand. Goolagong's backhand was a great shot and perhaps her most dangerous weapon.
 

krosero

Legend
Well Evonne liked to lob a lot but I'm surprised you write she looked in incapable of hitting a forceful drive off the backhand. Goolagong's backhand was a great shot and perhaps her most dangerous weapon.
There were two Goolagong matches that TC showed from the '77 WITC, against Reid and Wade. In both of them she's got a few BH passes that she hit sharply with pace. On some of them she's falling backward and pulls the pass almost out of nowhere.

She liked to slice her backhand a lot (a lot of people did) but it certainly wasn't for lack of ability to drive it. Good slices and lobs helped make her BH her more consistent side. If she gave up that consistency for more power then she would have been left without a consistent wing, because her FH was less consistent than her BH.
 
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