Just Watched Andy Murray's Documentary That Released Today

haqq777

Legend


It is called Andy Murray: Resurfacing (you'll have to type his full name for it to even pop in search results, such a travesty).

All I have to say is huge respect for him. Very well made documentary I thought. Shows him through his lowest moments, his strengths, behind the scenes footage, family dynamics etc. Had never heard his wife speak before so that was a first for me.

Overall, a very nice watch. Definitely a must see for all tennis fans.

Those who have seen it, what are your thoughts? Anything that stood out for you? I loved the big three appearances!
 

BeatlesFan

Talk Tennis Guru


It is called Andy Murray: Resurfacing (you'll have to type his full name for it to even pop in search results, such a travesty).

All I have to say is huge respect for him. Very well made documentary I thought. Shows him through his lowest moments, his strengths, behind the scenes footage, family dynamics etc. Had never heard his wife speak before so that was a first for me.

Overall, a very nice watch. Definitely a must see for all tennis fans.

Those who have seen it, what are your thoughts? Anything that stood out for you? I loved the big three appearances!
I loved it and may even watch it again. I loved that they interviewed Kim and Judy's remarks were interesting too. Most of all I liked that Andy showed true emotion, especially when he was interviewed while still in his hospital bed. I think every tennis fan should watch it, it was exceptional. My respect for Murray has risen even more. From now on and until the end of his career, I'm rooting for him against anyone except Fed. He loves the sport so much and this documentary showed his passion for tennis better than anything I've ever seen.

Here's to a successful and pain-free 2020 for Andy.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Evidently I was misinformed. I could have sworn I heard it was going to be aired on one of the BBC channels but no sign (why, oh why not?) :mad:

Looks like I'll have to view it on bloody Amazon. :rolleyes:
 

MeatTornado

Legend
Part of me still hopes he doesn't play too much longer.

He's already proven he could work his way back to professional tennis. But if he wants to get back to where he was, he'll be putting that hip through something unprecedented and very risky. It's an incredible story but I kinda want him to quit while he's ahead.
 

BeatlesFan

Talk Tennis Guru
Part of me still hopes he doesn't play too much longer.
Watch the documentary, it's really good. Andy explains at one point as he's exhausted after working out on some gym machine., "don't worry, there's something in me which makes me want to push through the pain." [paraphrasing]. He'll never be #1 again, but he can still win tournaments and just proved it in October.
 

Faris

Professional
Loved it!!! They ended with Cinci though, cmon! He beat Stan the Man at Antwerp in Oct to win the title there. Sure its a 250 but who cares! And yes, could have been too late to edit it in but more than a month?

I'm now forever going to be have a soft spot for Murray now!
 

BeatlesFan

Talk Tennis Guru
Evidently I was misinformed. I could have sworn I heard it was going to be aired on one of the BBC channels but no sign (why, oh why not?) :mad:

Looks like I'll have to view it on bloody Amazon. :rolleyes:
@Mainad, I'm really curious your thoughts about the documentary? I thought it was bloody epic!
 

haqq777

Legend
Loved it!!! They ended with Cinci though, cmon! He beat Stan the Man at Antwerp in Oct to win the title there. Sure its a 250 but who cares! And yes, could have been too late to edit it in but more than a month?

I'm now forever going to be have a soft spot for Murray now!
Yeah, I so wanted them to show the Antwerp win as well. Nevertheless, what a great watch.
 

kevaninho

Hall of Fame
I loved it. Felt quite emotional at times watching him break down.
Hes not always been my favourite on court character or player, but hes given my country so much to cheer for the last 10 or so years, including that great Davis cup and Olympic golds.
One of the hardest working tennis players of his time I have no doubt, considering how he started and everyone thought he would always be limping out of tournaments as he was too 'soft'.
Ironically the hard work and dedication he put in, to make himself that man of steel, is what probably has killed his hip.
In an era with 3 of the greatest players ever, he done some incredible things.
Just a pity he couldn't go out on his own terms.
 

Purplemonster

Hall of Fame
It's hard to believe that someone who seems like such a decent person off the court is often such a dick on the court. His greatest accomplishment would be to overcome that.
Who cares what he is like on the court ?? It’s what a person is like off the court that is important. Fognini acts like a clown on the court but off of it he is a very nice guy.
 

Beacon Hill

Hall of Fame
Who cares what he is like on the court ?? It’s what a person is like off the court that is important. Fognini acts like a clown on the court but off of it he is a very nice guy.
I actually care what players act like on the court. Murray screaming and swearing and blaming his trainer or coaches when things aren't going well just don't put him in a good light. I wish him well, though, and hope he can enjoy the game at a high level for a while longer.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
And your assessment of his on court behaviour, especially his outbursts directed at his "team"?
Not especially admirable but not especially bad either. His team are remarkably loyal to him (as the film shows) and understand the frustrations which fuel the outbursts. They don't take it personally because none of it is meant personally. They know their value to Andy and he knows their value to him. He is by no means the only player to shout at his box and I don't see why he should be singled out for it.
 
Not especially admirable but not especially bad either. His team are remarkably loyal to him (as the film shows) and understand the frustrations which fuel the outbursts. They don't take it personally because none of it is meant personally. They know their value to Andy and he knows their value to him. He is by no means the only player to shout at his box and I don't see why he should be singled out for it.
People don't understand the fight and emotions that happen in sports sometimes. Yes, some are more reserved and show less emotion.

However, even though I don't like Murray's on court behavior, I don't think it is a bad thing as far as it being directed at his team. He is just venting his frustration and obviously his team knows this. Things are said in sport that is "emotion" talking and those close know this.

The things I have said to or a teammate has said to me during a game are terrible. But 5 minutes later, or after the game we know it was just the emotional ride of the sport. Not once did it carryover, and my guess is Murray has a much stronger bond then I did with my teammates.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
@Mainad, I'm really curious your thoughts about the documentary? I thought it was bloody epic!
For me, it was fascinating, moving, depressing and heartwarming not necessarily in that order. Loved seeing Andy in his home environment, the interviews with Kim, Judy, Jamie and other relatives and friends. Loved seeing glimpses of his 2 little girls even though we were never allowed to see their faces. Fascinated to see his trophy room even though I think he should invest in a nice, new display case instead of standing some of them on the floor.

His tortuous path through his various hip surgeries were fascinating and moving but also depressing. Jamie said it best when he remarked on what a bummer it was that a knackered hip might well prevent Andy from achieving all that he potentially could have achieved. My feelings exactly. After the highs of 2016, I still find it unbelievable that he ended up having to fight to regain his fitness like this. The jury is still out on just how effective this latest resurfacing procedure will prove to be in extending his career.

Naturally one can only hope for the best (which is what I've been doing since all this started) whilst at the same time preparing for the worst. From here on in, anything he can still achieve on the tennis court can only be a bonus.

Those are my initial thoughts. No doubt I will have others as time goes on.
 

topher

Professional
Watching it made me realize again that the Big 4 are essentially their own companies with international brands. Shutting it down is like telling your employees who are also some of your best friends that they’re fired.

It’s no wonder none of them have retired yet.
 

BeatlesFan

Talk Tennis Guru
Weird seeing such a lifeless personality having a documentary made about him :)
Another person who obviously didn't watch the documentary. "Lifeless" is not an adjective to describe Andy Murray. Sure, people can criticize him for grabbing his thigh when things aren't going right or screaming at his box, but even when he acts that way, it's the opposite of "lifeless." A lifeless personality is someone like Raonic, a boring drone.
 
Evidently I was misinformed. I could have sworn I heard it was going to be aired on one of the BBC channels but no sign (why, oh why not?) :mad:

Looks like I'll have to view it on bloody Amazon. :rolleyes:
Well if you want a BBC produced tennis documentary, there has been one just released on BBC Alba about Elena Baltacha. Narration is in Gaelic but there are English subtitles.

 

Raphael Nadal

Professional
Another person who obviously didn't watch the documentary. "Lifeless" is not an adjective to describe Andy Murray. Sure, people can criticize him for grabbing his thigh when things aren't going right or screaming at his box, but even when he acts that way, it's the opposite of "lifeless." A lifeless personality is someone like Raonic, a boring drone.
Murray talks like he's drowsy always, that is lifeless :)
I stopped watching his interviews because of that.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Murray talks like he's drowsy always, that is lifeless :)
I stopped watching his interviews because of that.
In an interview with Jonathan Ross (BBC chat show host) the other night he explained that, when he was younger, he used to speak much quicker and with a broader Scottish accent. Then when he went to train in Spain as a teenager he found that people couldn't understand him, even the Brits living out there, so he modified his accent and began to talk much more slowly and has kept up the habit ever since. :cool:
 

Raiden

Hall of Fame
I wasn't in the mood to make Jeff Bezos richer than he already is so I just saw a pirate copy of it.

I liked it — and I don't like Andy Murray.

I liked that the movie, despite being basically a player promo, it didn't avoid mentioning his personality imperfections (being a nagging irritant who interrupts others in order to dwell on random side issues)

I also liked that it wasn't totally chronological. You see a timeline but also going back and forth between times. Bits of tennis interspersed with commentary by lots of people in various fields, including other players outside his family (all the top 3 goats), and that mixed with what you expect in any adult medical docu drama: emotions, expectations, bits of his actual surgery —gory stuff but that doesn't last long so it's OK—, exercise work, physios, doctors, hospital skirt, his genitals exposed on X-ray photo outtakes... basically the whole, ahem, package.
 
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Raphael Nadal

Professional
In an interview with Jonathan Ross (BBC chat show host) the other night he explained that, when he was younger, he used to speak much quicker and with a broader Scottish accent. Then when he went to train in Spain as a teenager he found that people couldn't understand him, even the Brits living out there, so he modified his accent and began to talk much more slowly and has kept up the habit ever since. :cool:
That's a good idea, I did exactly the same thing with my voice, because when I was younger I was into academic and scientific things, and I spoke quickly and people didn't understand.....so I decided to speak slower, and today I'm not academic but I've kept the slower voice :)
 

Tmano

Professional
I watched last Saturday and it definitely worth to witch it!
I like a lot Murray as player but here he really shows more who he really is and explains his behavior on the court.
He never gives up!
Not for the injuries but it made me think a bit of Agassi.
 

apjones01

New User
Does the documentary (or any other source) get into the origin of the initial injury? I haven't followed his career as closely as others on this board, but in his prime, I remember commentators always noting the incredibly grueling workouts he'd put himself through. Can't help but think that helped lead to his demise.
 

Raiden

Hall of Fame
Does the documentary (or any other source) get into the origin of the initial injury? I haven't followed his career as closely as others on this board, but in his prime, I remember commentators always noting the incredibly grueling workouts he'd put himself through. Can't help but think that helped lead to his demise.
There is no "initial" injury. This is a progressive deterioration of the joint, not an incidental injury caused by an accident. Andy himself used informal terms like "destroyed" when he talked about his body part.

The movie doesn't get deep into scientific explanations anyway. For that yer better off here: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2190446-why-hip-surgery-wouldnt-help-extend-andy-murrays-tennis-career/
 
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amoeba

New User
Did you guys watch the same documentary as me? I am a huge Murray fan, but the whole thing can be summed up as "bad hip, sad, bad hip, sad, good hip".

The only thing of interest was Murray's honesty. It certainly wasn't his eloquence (just count how many times he says 'like' in a sentence).
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Did you guys watch the same documentary as me? I am a huge Murray fan, but the whole thing can be summed up as "bad hip, sad, bad hip, sad, good hip".

The only thing of interest was Murray's honesty. It certainly wasn't his eloquence (just count how many times he says 'like' in a sentence).
I liked having those glimpses of his home and his 2 kids (even if we were only allowed to see rear views of them), his trophy room and the interviews with Kim, Judy and Jamie and coaches past and present.
 
I enjoyed it, and as a long term supporter of Murray I did not think I would, because ultimately he could not recover from his injury
The journey of his acceptance is probably more what it is about, and I would watch a similar doc from any prominent pro player and be interested
 
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