Just watched Djokovic's RG presser...

mike danny

Talk Tennis Guru
I don't think Novak is beating Rafa at RG. As long as Rafa is decent, Novak has 0 chances of winning.

Sorry, Novak fans.
 

mike danny

Talk Tennis Guru
I don't believe Djokovic will have any problems with extremely overrated players like Coric or Fognini. I doubt any of them will even reach him. And if they do it will probably be straight sets beatdowns.
He is definitely not having issues with Coric and Fognini.

Coric is a mug, I can't believe he is even being mentioned. Fognini is spectacular though, but Djokovic is a bad match-up for him.
 

Sport

Legend
I will try to watch as much as I can these first few days, then I have some serious travelling to do across North Africa, and will just check highlights here and there. I doubt I will be watching the latter stages live at all.
Morocco? Algeria? Egypt?
 

acintya

Hall of Fame
HERE IS MY BET

NOLE WILL BREAK ALL RECORDS THAT ARE THERE TO BREAK.
THERE IS ONLY ONE MAN WHO CAN STOP HIM AND THAT IS:






















PEPE IMAZ

who knows, maybe they decime at some day they want to build a Harekrishna Temple and worship God and sing all day long
or they will join a shaolin temple and dedicate their life the new way of living. That and Mr. Injury are the only ones who can hold Novak back.
 

StrongRule

Hall of Fame
He is definitely not having issues with Coric and Fognini.

Coric is a mug, I can't believe he is even being mentioned. Fognini is spectacular though, but Djokovic is a bad match-up for him.
Fognini is also a mug. He was lucky to face terrible versions of Nadal a few times, that doesn't make him an all time great. (otherwise Coric and Bautista Agut would be big threats too)
 

kevaninho

Hall of Fame
Do you not feel the level Nadal has shown at Rome is enough to win?
I feel its been his best level of the clay season so far, but he lost a set to a Djokovic who wasn't completely commited in that final.
That is possibly Nadals top level he is capable of now, which, yes, beats most people on the tour, and is a strong level. But for me, hes nowhere near 2017, and he also lost a bit in 2018 IMO. If his RG level is down even just a little this year, then Djokovic knows he can take the title.
I certainly know Djokovic has more in his locker, and as my original post said, he almost looks like hes rubbing his hands at troubling Rafa.
They both will be as motivated as each other, so I wont give the nod to anyone there, but its Djokovic's belief that is the big standout in his game for me. Even peak Fed at RG, never had the confidence to beat Nadal, which was part of his downfall there.
Mr Djokovic is a different beast altogether, and I personally hope we get the final we all want!
 

Towser83

G.O.A.T.
Nadal has still only lost once to Djokovic in 7 meetings at RG and Nadal is peaking at the right time so I feel Nadal is still favourite, especially with Thiem in Nole's draw
 

duaneeo

Hall of Fame
Even peak Fed at RG, never had the confidence to beat Nadal, which was part of his downfall there.
Mr Djokovic is a different beast altogether, and I personally hope we get the final we all want!
You're think (unlike Federer) Djokovic has the confidence to beat Nadal at RG, and (unlike Federer) is a different beast against Nadal at RG?
 

kevaninho

Hall of Fame
You're think (unlike Federer) Djokovic has the confidence to beat Nadal at RG, and (unlike Federer) is a different beast against Nadal at RG?
I think Djokovic loves facing Nadal anywhere. He thrives on the brutal matchup that usually occurs ( Forget AO 19 ). He also probably feels he has seen Rafas best level in Rome, and he knows he can match that under the right circumstances.
I also believe that Federer dreaded facing Nadal, and never had the same confidence against him. You don't agree?
 

duaneeo

Hall of Fame
I think Djokovic loves facing Nadal anywhere. He thrives on the brutal matchup that usually occurs ( Forget AO 19 ). He also probably feels he has seen Rafas best level in Rome, and he knows he can match that under the right circumstances.
I also believe that Federer dreaded facing Nadal, and never had the same confidence against him. You don't agree?
We're talking Roland Garros. Djokovic double-faulted on break/championship point twice against Nadal (2012 and 2014), and went into the net (losing the point, and eventually the game and the match) in the one match he was in charge against a competitive Rafa (2013). So I don't know where you're getting this idea that he's more confident and a different beast against Nadal at RG than Federer.
 

Sport

Legend
We're talking Roland Garros. Djokovic double-faulted on break/championship point twice against Nadal (2012 and 2014), and went into the net (losing the point, and eventually the game and the match) in the one match he was in charge against a competitive Rafa (2013). So I don't know where you're getting this idea that he's more confident and a different beast against Nadal at RG than Federer.
Wut. Since when is a break point a championship point in matches where he lost in 4?
 

Imperator

Professional
I think Djokovic loves facing Nadal anywhere. He thrives on the brutal matchup that usually occurs ( Forget AO 19 ). He also probably feels he has seen Rafas best level in Rome, and he knows he can match that under the right circumstances.
I also believe that Federer dreaded facing Nadal, and never had the same confidence against him. You don't agree?
I think that’s true when they play on hard or grass. But when it comes to clay, I think he would rather avoid Nadal than face him, especially at RG.
 

Sport

Legend
Djokovic was unquestionably the sharpest first round victor. Ominously good form.
Djokovic lost more games than Nadal, Goffin and Carreño so I don't know why do you dogmatically say "unquestionably".

Goffin won his match 6-0, 6-2, 6-2.
 
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Benjamin Rio

Professional
But he won in less games than Nadal, Goffin and Carreño. So it is questionable.

Carreño defeated a higher ranked player than Djokovic (Joao Sousa, #40) and still won in less games than Djokovic.


So did I.
I think Novak is going to win the tournament.
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
I think so too.

When he is at the top of his game there's really nobody who can stop him (except himself) and I'm not convinced Nadal is up to it anymore even on clay (despite the Rome final where Djokovic wasn't exactly 100%). Fed we can forget. That ship sailed long ago.

How do you think RG will play out?
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
Djokovic-Nadal for the final. Barring some major upset or injury intervention I see no other likely outcome with the fresher of the 2 emerging as the winner.
But you think Djokovic is the more likely winner of this match, all things being equal?
 

Sport

Legend
I think so too.

When he is at the top of his game there's really nobody who can stop him (except himself) and I'm not convinced Nadal is up to it anymore even on clay (despite the Rome final where Djokovic wasn't exactly 100%). Fed we can forget. That ship sailed long ago.
I do not agree with this analysis, Mainad. That Djokovic is unstoppable when in great shape is not true, especially on clay. Nadal is 6-1 against Djokovic at Roland Garros because he has a better clay game, not because Nadal only defeats Djokovic when he is not at his best.

Djokovic was "tired" in Rome because he almost lost to Del Potro, who is a much worse clay player than Nadal, so that is not a valid argument to justify Djokovic's loss to Nadal. Whether Djokovic was 100% or not in the Rome final is irrelevant, as the level Nadal played that match he was almost unplayable. Nadal had break points in almost every single of Djokovic's serves during that match. And Djokovic saved his serve in the second set miraculously, all the times that Nadal had break points in the second set, Djokovic served to the line or executed over-risky "all or nothing" shots to the line which could have gone out. Of course, if Nadal plays like in Montecarlo, Djokovic will win the title, and Nadal really needs to play like in Rome to win the title. So I think a potential Nadal-Djokovic final depends more on Nadal's level than the other way around.
 

Benjamin Rio

Professional
I do not agree with this analysis, Mainad. That Djokovic is unstoppable when in great shape is not true, especially on clay. Nadal is 6-1 against Djokovic at Roland Garros because he has a better clay game, not because Nadal only defeats Djokovic when he is not at his best.

Djokovic was "tired" in Rome because he almost lost to Del Potro, who is a much worse clay player than Nadal, so that is not a valid argument to justify Djokovic's loss to Nadal. Whether Djokovic was 100% or not in the Rome final is irrelevant, as the level Nadal played that match he was almost unplayable. Nadal had break points in almost every single of Djokovic's serves during that match. And Djokovic saved his serve in the second set miraculously, all the times that Nadal had break points in the second set, Djokovic served to the line or executed over-risky "all or nothing" shots to the line which could have gone out. Of course, if Nadal plays like in Montecarlo, Djokovic will win the title, and Nadal really needs to play like in Rome to win the title. So I think a potential Nadal-Djokovic final depends more on Nadal's level than the other way around.
Dont't agree.

Novak has got back that AO vibe...Nole slam is coming in my opinion.
 

TennisFan3

Legend
Depends on Nadal's form. He was terrible at the beginning of the clay season, though he improved in Rome. We have to see how he will play this time. When he plays well and has enough confidence then he beats anybody in RG, including Djokovic. But mentality might be a problem. He really choked that second set in Rome final.
I'd love to have what you're having. The Nadal of 2019 is several levels below his clay form. If you really believe that he can beat the current Djokovic, then you haven't been paying attention.
Or you are seduced by the Rome result where Novak was asleep for a set.
 

ABCD

Hall of Fame
Nadal is a clear favorite. More than Djokovic was in AO. If Djokovic does this, GOAT is understatement; there is just no word for that.
 

StrongRule

Hall of Fame
I'd love to have what you're having. The Nadal of 2019 is several levels below his clay form. If you really believe that he can beat the current Djokovic, then you haven't been paying attention.
Or you are seduced by the Rome result where Novak was asleep for a set.
I said "if he plays well". He didn't play well for most of the year, and it is far from a given that he can do it now.
 

Fed881981

Hall of Fame
Man he looks very quietly confident. I think he has been holding back a little in the Masters events till now, and in his mind he knows he has that extra gear to win RG.

Anyone else get this feeling?

It worries me, as a Nadal fan, when Djokovic is in this mindset. I don't think he minds taking a loss against Nadal , whereas if the result goes the other way, I feel it affects Nadal a lot.
Basically Nadal needed that Rome win, whereas Djokovic looks like hes just brushed it off and in his mind he feels at RG he wont be fighting against fatigue or scheduling if he meets Nadal again.

Im very much looking forward to hopefully seeing them battle it out in the final this year.
Should they meet, a fully rested Djokovic will beat a fully rested Nadal, in more than 4 sets.

For me, Djokovic is the favorite in Paris.
 
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