JUSTINE vs. ROGER....

marpiw

Semi-Pro
Through this posting I am asking all of you if you would like to watch a mixed tournament...men against women or women against men...
I would crave to see a match between Justine and Roger...would you also?...
This is simply because I would wish to dissipate some MACHO philosophy that is in the tennis environment and that states that ''men play better than women''...I want to see what happens...
 

DashaandSafin

Hall of Fame
Your too funny. Roger 6-0 6-0 dropping a point or so. BTW, this topic has been discussed to death. Try a search next time and you'll soon find out WITH CONVINCING EVIDENCE that the top woman is nowhere near the top man, or 500th man for that matter.
 

Tchocky

Hall of Fame
Roger & Justine should play mixed doubles. They could win the Grand Slam. Too bad nobody cares about doubles.
 

hyogen

Hall of Fame
Roger & Justine should play mixed doubles. They could win the Grand Slam. Too bad nobody cares about doubles.
uh...putting together the top singles men and women players doesn't equate to #1 doubles team. haha...venus and serena were boasting they could beat any guy not in the top 50 and they were crushed by 150 or so ranked players
 

TheShaun

Hall of Fame
Through this posting I am asking all of you if you would like to watch a mixed tournament...men against women or women against men...
I would crave to see a match between Justine and Roger...would you also?...
This is simply because I would wish to dissipate some MACHO philosophy that is in the tennis environment and that states that ''men play better than women''...I want to see what happens...
i certainly don't think that justine can win or even come close to taking a set. maybe one or two games. but i have no doubt that she could win a few nice points...

Your too funny. Roger 6-0 6-0 dropping a point or so. BTW, this topic has been discussed to death. Try a search next time and you'll soon find out WITH CONVINCING EVIDENCE that the top woman is nowhere near the top man, or 500th man for that matter.
this is exactly the point the op was making. overly macho comments...
 

tennissavy

Hall of Fame
Through this posting I am asking all of you if you would like to watch a mixed tournament...men against women or women against men...
I would crave to see a match between Justine and Roger...would you also?...
This is simply because I would wish to dissipate some MACHO philosophy that is in the tennis environment and that states that ''men play better than women''...I want to see what happens...
Actually, I don't know what the difference is between the two-"men against women or women against men"!
 

tennissavy

Hall of Fame
Your too funny. Roger 6-0 6-0 dropping a point or so. BTW, this topic has been discussed to death. Try a search next time and you'll soon find out WITH CONVINCING EVIDENCE that the top woman is nowhere near the top man, or 500th man for that matter.
Evidence- there is none regarding this topic.
 

caesar66

Professional
IMO there is nothing sexist or macho about saying that roger would dominate justine. He simply hits harder and is used to returning much harder balls than any that justine could possibly produce. It would be a warmup match for him, then he'd go on court and beat roddick 4,3,4 right after.
 

superman1

Legend
Henin is a joke compared to Federer. Henin is a joke compared to Ginepri. She just does not hit in the big leagues like the guys; she is not as consistent as them, she does not move nearly as well as them, and her serve would be picked apart by them.
 

LarougeNY

Professional
roger and mauresmo would make a better team for doubles, she's a better volleyer. But rog and justine would definitely win grandslams playing doubles together, no doubt about that.
 

RoddickAce

Hall of Fame
Whta if Roddick or another huge server(with excellent vollies) paired up with Roger in Men's Doubles? I think they would play pretty well.
 

David L

Hall of Fame
this is exactly the point the op was making. overly macho comments...
But it's the truth. Federer has bagelled enough top quality men in his time (Hewitt, Gaudio, Blake etc) , do you think he would have any trouble routinely bagelling 5' 5" Henin at will. Seriously, if he played her seriously, she would have a tough time winning a point. I'd say she may win about 3 points in a set and I'm not trying to be funny. This is the absolute truth of the matter.
 

DashaandSafin

Hall of Fame
this is exactly the point the op was making. overly macho comments...
...Is it over macho if I state the obvious? Roger bagels men with ease, whats stopping him from bageling the tiny Justine? I bet his kickserve would go over his head. Its not a macho comment if its simply true.

And tennissavy, there is evidence. Venus and Serena were beaten by Braash while he was smoking a cigarette on turnovers.
 

hyogen

Hall of Fame
...Is it over macho if I state the obvious? Roger bagels men with ease, whats stopping him from bageling the tiny Justine? I bet his kickserve would go over his head. Its not a macho comment if its simply true.

And tennissavy, there is evidence. Venus and Serena were beaten by Braash while he was smoking a cigarette on turnovers.
what do you mean turnovers. I wish I knew more details about this match. was it a pretty serious match or just for fun? was he smoking to prove that they were nothing?
 

TheShaun

Hall of Fame
Your too funny. Roger 6-0 6-0 dropping a point or so. BTW, this topic has been discussed to death. Try a search next time and you'll soon find out WITH CONVINCING EVIDENCE that the top woman is nowhere near the top man, or 500th man for that matter.
this was written in a macho tone...

...Is it over macho if I state the obvious? Roger bagels men with ease, whats stopping him from bageling the tiny Justine? I bet his kickserve would go over his head. Its not a macho comment if its simply true.

And tennissavy, there is evidence. Venus and Serena were beaten by Braash while he was smoking a cigarette on turnovers.
nothing wrong with stating that roger would bagel justine. it's likely the case. it's how you say it that proves the op's point of macho comments.
 
Just my opinion: Mirka is the only woman whoould 'beat' Federer.

Through this posting I am asking all of you if you would like to watch a mixed tournament...men against women or women against men...
I would crave to see a match between Justine and Roger...would you also?...
This is simply because I would wish to dissipate some MACHO philosophy that is in the tennis environment and that states that ''men play better than women''...I want to see what happens...
Gee, that's such a tough call. Let me think about it.....for 2 seconds.....
 
Just my opinion: Mirka is the only woman who's 'beating' Federer.

Through this posting I am asking all of you if you would like to watch a mixed tournament...men against women or women against men...
I would crave to see a match between Justine and Roger...would you also?...
This is simply because I would wish to dissipate some MACHO philosophy that is in the tennis environment and that states that ''men play better than women''...I want to see what happens...
Oh definitely Justine in straight sets; I can see it now:

Justine Henin, gets distracted upon seeing hundreds of pink pigs flying around Roland Garros Stadium; so she holds up her hand just when Federer was to serve at *19-all* in the 1st set tiebraker (unbeknownst to [size=+1]Elvis Presley[/size], who was the chair umpire) then she subsequently lies to [size=+1] Elvis [/size] that she didn't hold up her hand which really plsses Federer off.

As a result, Justine goes on to win the match going away, 7-6; 6-2.


"marpiw!.....marpiw!....wake up!.....time to get up and go to school.....!"
 

gerikoh

Semi-Pro
come on. do some searchin'! there was some match between a henin and a former pro, unfamous frenchman and he still won despite obviously not being serious! how much more if it's roger? i'd loose my respect for roger if henin could take any point!
 

caulcano

Hall of Fame
Her backhand down the line might win her a couple of poiunts against roger. Besides that roger would definitely beat her badly.
Henin wouldn't even get that many chances to 'hit one down the line' (once a game perhaps).

Federer would probably lose at most one game in 2 sets.
 

cknobman

Legend
I think Roger and Justine should form a couple, get married, and denounce themselves as the King and Queen of professional tennis.
They could start a royal family of tennis @sskickers and anyone who opposed them would be brought to the court in front of the world and punished (with a severe @sswhopping in tennis) for commiting treason against the royal throne.
 

marpiw

Semi-Pro
I think Roger and Justine should form a couple, get married, and denounce themselves as the King and Queen of professional tennis.
They could start a royal family of tennis @sskickers and anyone who opposed them would be brought to the court in front of the world and punished (with a severe @sswhopping in tennis) for commiting treason against the royal throne.
HA HA HA HA what a great story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!It should be filmed by Walt Disney Studios and distributed by Buenavista in places where people ignore whats happening in this sport... perhaps they believe as true what they are seeing on the screen.......
 

marpiw

Semi-Pro
Oh definitely Justine in straight sets; I can see it now:

Justine Henin, gets distracted upon seeing hundreds of pink pigs flying around Roland Garros Stadium; so she holds up her hand just when Federer was to serve at *19-all* in the 1st set tiebraker (unbeknownst to [size=+1]Elvis Presley[/size], who was the chair umpire) then she subsequently lies to [size=+1] Elvis [/size] that she didn't hold up her hand which really plsses Federer off.

As a result, Justine goes on to win the match going away, 7-6; 6-2.


"marpiw!.....marpiw!....wake up!.....time to get up and go to school.....!"
Congratulations for the graphic work involved in your posting...unfortunately nothing changed...Macho philosophy is there alive...and making women second class human beings...
By the way I dont need to go to school anymore because I finished it 35 years ago....
 

marpiw

Semi-Pro
Your too funny. Roger 6-0 6-0 dropping a point or so. BTW, this topic has been discussed to death. Try a search next time and you'll soon find out WITH CONVINCING EVIDENCE that the top woman is nowhere near the top man, or 500th man for that matter.
Macho man at his best..........no evidence sustains your assertions...
 
Through this posting I am asking all of you if you would like to watch a mixed tournament...men against women or women against men...
I would crave to see a match between Justine and Roger...would you also?...
This is simply because I would wish to dissipate some MACHO philosophy that is in the tennis environment and that states that ''men play better than women''...I want to see what happens...
there are so many ways that people can and should be mean to you for saying something like this. Lets think logically about this... Federer is probably the best player of all time. Henin is good, but i am fairly certain nobody considers her even the best woman of all time. So how exactly would henin expect to beat the best man of all time, when she doesnt even win every match on the womens side. If Henin beat anyone in the top 150 i would be very suprised. They just hit the ball so much harder and are so much stronger than the women that it would be no contest. That isnt sexist, it isnt designed to be mean to the women at all, it just is what it is. That is why girls only had to hang from the bar in High School gym class, and boys actually had to do the pull ups. Anyone who has ever watched pro tennis in person should realize that the womens game is so much slower than the mens game that even thinking henin would get a point, save pity points, is rather absurd imho.
 

acher

New User
I think Roger and Justine should form a couple, get married, and denounce themselves as the King and Queen of professional tennis.
They could start a royal family of tennis @sskickers and anyone who opposed them would be brought to the court in front of the world and punished (with a severe @sswhopping in tennis) for commiting treason against the royal throne.
The Federer/Henin kids and the Agassi/Graf kids can enter a fight to the death. Who will prevail? :)
 

Ossric

Semi-Pro
I'm not sure Justine could return a single one of his servers if he was trying. I doubt he'd try to crush her though, being the gentleman that he is.
 

TheShaun

Hall of Fame
To the poster who thinks this is all macho horse droppings with no "documents" to prove it:

http://www.dispatch.co.za/1998/01/28/sport/WILLIAMS.HTM

Here, here. Please educate yourself. Until you show me (and others) proof otherwise, the men are superior. I am no chauvinist but the facts are facts.
you've just proven that a 31 year old man can beat 16 & 17 year old girls. karsten was born in 1967, the match was played in 1998.
 

caulcano

Hall of Fame
you've just proven that a 31 year old man can beat 16 & 17 year old girls. karsten was born in 1967, the match was played in 1998.
It proved that a past-prime ATP tour player won convincing whilst not trying, against 2 up&coming WTA youngsters that were beating top 10 players at the time.

Anyone thinks that a Federer v Henin match would be competitive is just delusional.
 

hyogen

Hall of Fame
To the poster who thinks this is all macho horse droppings with no "documents" to prove it:

http://www.dispatch.co.za/1998/01/28/sport/WILLIAMS.HTM

Here, here. Please educate yourself. Until you show me (and others) proof otherwise, the men are superior. I am no chauvinist but the facts are facts.
nice find. (didn't unsubscribe afterall)

"It was extremely hard," said the 16-year-old Serena. "I didn't know it would be that hard. I hit shots that would have been winners on the women's tour and he got to them easily."

That didn't stop her from boasting that "this time next year I'll beat him. I have to pump some weight . . . I have to work hard to be on the men's tour."

Venus, 17, wasn't about to concede too much either, especially since she broke Braasch's serve once.

"I can beat men in the 300s and up," she said. "He thought we couldn't get a point. He didn't think we could play. We showed him we could."
"

LOL @ those 2 nasty hoochie mamas
 

TheShaun

Hall of Fame
It proved that a past-prime ATP tour player won convincing whilst not trying, against 2 up&coming WTA youngsters that were beating top 10 players at the time.

Anyone thinks that a Federer v Henin match would be competitive is just delusional.
i've never said it would be competitive. i know it wouldn't be. but you have to give credit where credit is due. people are talking like justine has no chance of even hitting a decent shot...
 

slicelob

New User
dude...tennis is a game of exploiting marginal advantages. in a match between federer and henin, federer would have not just a marginal advantage, but in most cases a fairly large one, in almost every single conceivable category. even without taking into consideration that to win a game, henin would have to hold serve, cause she sure isn't breaking fed--and when's the last time you saw someone hold against fed while serving in the 100-110 range? yeah...
 

marpiw

Semi-Pro
there are so many ways that people can and should be mean to you for saying something like this. Lets think logically about this... Federer is probably the best player of all time. Henin is good, but i am fairly certain nobody considers her even the best woman of all time. So how exactly would henin expect to beat the best man of all time, when she doesnt even win every match on the womens side. If Henin beat anyone in the top 150 i would be very suprised. They just hit the ball so much harder and are so much stronger than the women that it would be no contest. That isnt sexist, it isnt designed to be mean to the women at all, it just is what it is. That is why girls only had to hang from the bar in High School gym class, and boys actually had to do the pull ups. Anyone who has ever watched pro tennis in person should realize that the womens game is so much slower than the mens game that even thinking henin would get a point, save pity points, is rather absurd imho.
Thin posting is a summary of all the Macho philosophy that is around in all activities of men....women are just second category human beings which can pose no threat to a man...the king of the species...sorry I cannot continue this reply because I am going to the toilet to vomit...
 
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