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So, who to believe - boy it sure is a toss up; those who have in all likelihood handled at least one of the actual racquets in question, or the guy relying on gleaning precise measurements from extrapolated on line images. 

I did not think this thread was about believing in one boy's fantasies and wasted time.So, who to believe - boy it sure is a toss up; those who have in all likelihood handled at least one of the actual racquets in question, or the guy relying on gleaning precise measurements from extrapolated on line images.![]()
evidence is the last thing we need here!I asked someone who personally strung his frames down under for the A.O ... He did not measure the specs but said the frame was very heavy ... definitely not shortened... he said if anything Karatsev's frame could be slightly extended.
It’s interesting that people associate ‘felt very heavy’ with ‘must have been slightly extended.’evidence is the last thing we need here!
i would assume feeling heavy would be referencing the static weight rather than the swingweight maybe karatsev weighted up his stickIt’s interesting that people associate ‘felt very heavy’ with ‘must have been slightly extended.’
It’s interesting that people associate ‘felt very heavy’ with ‘must have been slightly extended.’
All details have been posted already, searchdoes anyone have come across his racquet specs (total weight, swingweight, balance..) ? seems that only djokovic could face his incoming balls..
But those specs were before my Russian mobster friends touched it.All details have been posted already, search
But those specs were before my Russian mobster friends touched it.
You have Russian friends in your head. Go to FEDACE for helpBut those specs were before my Russian mobster friends touched it.
I had not reached out at that time.did they also touch you original post?
I asked someone who personally strung his frames down under for the A.O ... He did not measure the specs but said the frame was very heavy ... definitely not shortened... he said if anything Karatsev's frame could be slightly extended.
Agreed. That doesn't even qualify as "heavy", let alone "very heavy".dr325i posted 340g strung, if I am not mistaken. That's hardly "very heavy".
Of course it is. Novak was using shorter than 27" stick until 2018.I think it’s entirely possible for any pro to use something a bit shorter than 27, someone once told me Boris Becker’s coach measured Becker’s frame length and said it was 26.5 .. so who knows , didn’t laver use a 26 or rosewall.
It’s always eye deceiving when tall lanky dudes start their serve rituals especially the old dudes like . Ivanesevic and Becker really do come to mind, their rackets really do look short as all get it , almost like little toys
He forgot to pack it with him on his trip to Miami.Well here’s the proverbial smoking gun. Behold Karatsev’s actual racquet.![]()
Well here’s the proverbial smoking gun. Behold Karatsev’s actual racquet.![]()
Not sure why everyone assumes that players stay the same spec. Observe the difference in forehand grip choke position. In AO, he was using a 1-finger choke-down. In 2022, back with longer racquet, he is no longer choking down, with pinky inside flare.So .08cm shorty...lol
He's using the same grip in both pics, it's just the angle of the pics that are different. Same amount of grip is exposed behind the pinky finger.
False!He's using the same grip in both pics, it's just the angle of the pics that are different. Same amount of grip is exposed behind the pinky finger.
No it's not. Get 2 pics where the butt cap is visible in both pics.False!
PatheticFalse!
No, the OP is full of it.so wait, conspiracy theory was true?
As we have read Trav has a very vivid imagination.Pathetic
Here you can clearly see the choke position is different on his 2hb, and that the racquet length is different.No it's not. Get 2 pics where the butt cap is visible in both pics.
Proves nothing. No context is given as to what shot is being hit. I know many pros who will choke up a bit to return a big 1st serve and not when in baseline rallies. Lots of players move their hands around for different shots but the racquet stays the same. And are you saying that when someone hypothetically moves to longer racquet they will always choke up on it?Here you can clearly see the choke position is different on his 2hb, and that the racquet length is different.
Top pic: 26.75", 1-finger choke down (5/8" choked down), with pinky overhanging 1/4” past end of butt. Note about 7/8'" between thumb and bottom of folk V.
Bottom pic: 27.0” (2022), no-choke down. Note 7/8" +1/4" handle length longer - 5/8" choke = only 1/2" between thumb and bottom of folk V.
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In many cases, when a player reduces the swingweight by chopping the handle shorter and replacing the buttcap, he will naturally be inclined to choke down to re-create familiar swing timing and feel at impact.Proves nothing. No context is given as to what shot is being hit. I know many pros who will choke up a bit to return a big 1st serve and not when in baseline rallies. Lots of players move their hands around for different shots but the racquet stays the same. And are you saying that when someone hypothetically moves to longer racquet they will always choke up on it?
The other thread re: his racquets makes it seem unlikely he was ever looking to reduce swingweight.In many cases, when a player reduces the swingweight by chopping the handle shorter and replacing the buttcap, he will naturally be inclined to choke down to re-create familiar swing timing and feel at impact.
Perhaps his coach at the time (a guy with a reputation of “he’ll try anything”, according to those who know him closely) chopped his racquet without telling him and said, “try this.” And after adjusting his grip position so that he felt comfortable with the chopped spec, he just ran with it.The other thread re: his racquets makes it seem unlikely he was ever looking to reduce swingweight.
Good story...Perhaps his coach at the time (a guy with a reputation of “he’ll try anything”, according to those who know him closely) chopped his racquet without telling him and said, “try this.” And after adjusting his grip position so that he felt comfortable with the chopped spec, he just ran with it.
By end of ‘21, he was still using the shorter length, but due to struggles in various conditions had migrated his choke position back to neutral, and the shorter length was hurting him and not helping him. So it wasn’t surprising that he went back to std in 22. Of course, his results went back to chally level too.
Of course there’s more to tell, but I’ll stop there.Good story...
Yeah, but you'll have to make it up first. But don't bother on my account, I'm good.Of course there’s more to tell, but I’ll stop there.![]()
Here you can clearly see the choke position is different on his 2hb, and that the racquet length is different.
Top pic: 26.75", 1-finger choke down (5/8" choked down), with pinky overhanging 1/4” past end of butt. Note about 7/8'" between thumb and bottom of folk V.
Bottom pic: 27.0” (2022), no-choke down. Note 7/8" +1/4" handle length longer - 5/8" choke = only 1/2" between thumb and bottom of folk V.
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Thank you for sharing. Your measurements are consistent with mine for his 2022 spec.![]()
Karatsev's 2022 racket.
No he didn’t.@travlerajm i applaud you for sticking to your convictions during a bombardment of hate. You have have clearly shown what you claim to be true. All while your detractors claim you to be wrong with zero reason or proof.
AK clearly used a shorty racquet. Thank you for your service.
How would the guru know what AK is doing with his own racquets? It’s not hard to cut down the pallet a little bit.Why would the Head guru(s) who are actually responsible for his racquets - including during the years in question - want/bother to lie about Carrotsieve’s racquet length?
He’s hardly as famous as Joker and Dajoker’s change in racquet length was not kept secret.
Zverev’s longbody version of a standard length only at retail isn’t secret either.
Why would they bother? I mean it’s not like the holes at the poles where those privileged enough can access the underground utopia…
Except that it is in your dreams. Since 2020, his racket length was and remains 685mm unstrung (27")By end of ‘21, he was still using the shorter length, but due to struggles in various conditions had migrated his choke position back to neutral, and the shorter length was hurting him and not helping him. So it wasn’t surprising that he went back to std in 22. Of course, his results went back to chally level too.
Because Head was doing the customization for him in 2020 and you'd think that he would have told them to do it shorter on ~20 rackets they did for him in 2020 instead of taking everything off, taking buttcap off, cut not only the pallet but the graphite under, put everything together...How would the guru know what AK is doing with his own racquets? It’s not hard to cut down the pallet a little bit.