Kei Nishikori Is The Current Youngest Champion on the ATP Tour, Not Donald Young

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Pancho

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I was so happy that Kei Nishikori is now a Champion on the ATP Tour. Something that Donald Young can't say he has. Kei Nishikori is 5 months younger than Donald Young and now hopefully the media would praise Kei Nishikori instead of Donald Young. Donald Young is no longer the youngest darling of the ATP Tour. Donald has yet to win an ATP match this year when Kei has already won an ATP Tournament!

BTW, Kei Nishikori has an incredible mental edge over his opponents - he always keep fighting even when he'd down (like Michael Chang and Serena Williams).

So rememeber days when the media would say Donald Young is the youngest, incredible and what not? Not now! Even if Donald Young wins an ATP Tournament, Kei Nishikori still beats him as the current youngest Champion on ATP Tour.

BTW, Kei Nishikori has never boasted like Donald Young saying he'll win each Grand Slams at least twice.
 
Good decision by Kei, not to go to college. he was funded by Morita tennis fund, a millionare in japan. so He was able to go to IMG academy in Florida for last 4 years. Now he is ready to win wimbledon
 
Pancho said:
I was so happy that Kei Nishikori is now a Champion on the ATP Tour. Something that Donald Young can't say he has. Kei Nishikori is 5 months younger than Donald Young and now hopefully the media would praise Kei Nishikori instead of Donald Young. Donald Young is no longer the youngest darling of the ATP Tour. Donald has yet to win an ATP match this year when Kei has already won an ATP Tournament!

BTW, Kei Nishikori has an incredible mental edge over his opponents - he always keep fighting even when he'd down (like Michael Chang and Serena Williams).

So rememeber days when the media would say Donald Young is the youngest, incredible and what not? Not now! Even if Donald Young wins an ATP Tournament, Kei Nishikori still beats him as the current youngest Champion on ATP Tour.

BTW, Kei Nishikori has never boasted like Donald Young saying he'll win each Grand Slams at least twice.
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We get it already, you hate Donald Young.
 
One would think that you should talk only Kei in light of his recent succes, the very thing there is more about DY in here than about Kei N is clear sign - Donald has haters even if hes young as he can be .. ;) Funny world.
 
Watched some of his matches and I really like him. Very good player with great shot making capabilities.

I really want to see more of this kid because his game is anything but one dimensional and he can adapt to his opponents well.
 
Kei Nishkori is a phenomenon like Donald Young. It is clear to me that Donald is slower in developing his mental side of his game and donald himself had admitted this in the past. It was very clear in amer Delic match, donald was playing like a Junior not a Pro. Making bunch of unforced errors in most crucial parts of the match. Kei on the other hand, was playing like a seasoned Vet during his match against James Blake and his racket head speed was similar or better than James blake so put the 2 together and you have Kei winning over James and Donald still playing in the Challengers.
 
Pancho said:
I was so happy that Kei Nishikori is now a Champion on the ATP Tour. Something that Donald Young can't say he has. Kei Nishikori is 5 months younger than Donald Young and now hopefully the media would praise Kei Nishikori instead of Donald Young. Donald Young is no longer the youngest darling of the ATP Tour. Donald has yet to win an ATP match this year when Kei has already won an ATP Tournament!

BTW, Kei Nishikori has an incredible mental edge over his opponents - he always keep fighting even when he'd down (like Michael Chang and Serena Williams).

So rememeber days when the media would say Donald Young is the youngest, incredible and what not? Not now! Even if Donald Young wins an ATP Tournament, Kei Nishikori still beats him as the current youngest Champion on ATP Tour.

BTW, Kei Nishikori has never boasted like Donald Young saying he'll win each Grand Slams at least twice.
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Kei Nishikori is not an American so do not expect him receive anywhere near the hype Donald Young gets.So far he is a much better player than Young but time will tell,they are both still young and developing.I watched Donald Young against Lopez in the USO and their games look very similar to me,the main difference is that Nishikori is much mentally tougher.
 
zagor said:
Kei Nishikori is not an American so do not expect him receive anywhere near the hype Donald Young gets.So far he is a much better player than Young but time will tell,they are both still young and developing.I watched Donald Young against Lopez in the USO and their games look very similar to me,the main difference is that Nishikori is much mentally tougher.
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And Nishikori doesn't have Young's ridiculous loop on his forehand.
 
Nishikori is the youngest darling of ATP Tour

zagor said:
games look very similar to me,the main difference is that Nishikori is much mentally tougher.
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Yes, that is something Champions have - mentally tough! Kei has the mental toughness of Champions like Michael Chang and Serena Williams. Kei's serves up aces are only about 102 mph but are so well placed. Even his serves of 102 mph were unreturnable, this shows that speed isn't everything.

Also, Nishikori doesn't have the annoying parents of Donald Young and has the freedom of getting the best coaches in the world.
 
Good on you, Kei.

You guys realize, of course, than just a month ago, Kei was playing the qualies of a Challenger in Texas, right?

Donald has a very similar game, and will be inspired by Nishikori's run.

As for Pancho's obvious hatred for Donald Young...it's gettin' a little bit psycho.

BTW, Pancho, good asessment of his mental game. I can hear Johnny Mac fawning all over him, too.
 
Pancho said:
I was so happy that Kei Nishikori is now a Champion on the ATP Tour. Something that Donald Young can't say he has. Kei Nishikori is 5 months younger than Donald Young and now hopefully the media would praise Kei Nishikori instead of Donald Young. Donald Young is no longer the youngest darling of the ATP Tour. Donald has yet to win an ATP match this year when Kei has already won an ATP Tournament!

BTW, Kei Nishikori has an incredible mental edge over his opponents - he always keep fighting even when he'd down (like Michael Chang and Serena Williams).

So rememeber days when the media would say Donald Young is the youngest, incredible and what not? Not now! Even if Donald Young wins an ATP Tournament, Kei Nishikori still beats him as the current youngest Champion on ATP Tour.

BTW, Kei Nishikori has never boasted like Donald Young saying he'll win each Grand Slams at least twice.
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Pancho, you're going to be the next Parche, it's just tennis and get over your hate for Donald Young.
 
The only reason any of you guys have heard of DY is because he is american and there is an element od desperation in US tennis. At least Kei will be famous for playing tennis and not famous for, um, being famous.
 
Pancho said:
I was so happy that Kei Nishikori is now a Champion on the ATP Tour. Something that Donald Young can't say he has. Kei Nishikori is 5 months younger than Donald Young and now hopefully the media would praise Kei Nishikori instead of Donald Young. Donald Young is no longer the youngest darling of the ATP Tour. Donald has yet to win an ATP match this year when Kei has already won an ATP Tournament!

BTW, Kei Nishikori has an incredible mental edge over his opponents - he always keep fighting even when he'd down (like Michael Chang and Serena Williams).

So rememeber days when the media would say Donald Young is the youngest, incredible and what not? Not now! Even if Donald Young wins an ATP Tournament, Kei Nishikori still beats him as the current youngest Champion on ATP Tour.

BTW, Kei Nishikori has never boasted like Donald Young saying he'll win each Grand Slams at least twice.
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Uhhhh...thanks. But no one SAID he was the youngest champion in the first place. How about complimenting Kei on a tournament win and not trying to bring Donald Yound down for no apparent reason. Thanks.
 
Boris Becker won Wimbledon at 17. DY has no more excuses for his poor performance on the ATP level. KN sure looks like he has a brighter future than DY, but then again, Federer didn't dominate the tour until he was 22.
 
Pancho said:
Thank you Fedace.
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Well, just because Fedace agrees with you still doesn't justify your hatred of Donald Young. So, what exactly did DY do to you? Did he steal your girlfriend, kick your dog, key your car? Well, hopefully you can get these issues resolved because this kind of behaviour is a bit troubling, and quite scary to be honest.
 
edberg505 said:
Well, just because Fedace agrees with you still doesn't justify your hatred of Donald Young. So, what exactly did DY do to you? Did he steal your girlfriend, kick your dog, key your car? Well, hopefully you can get these issues resolved because this kind of behaviour is a bit troubling, and quite scary to be honest.
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I don't hate Donald at all. I actually like him alot. I hope he becomes mentally tough and win US open 1 day. but sadly as it is right now, his game just is not mateur enough to do well in anything.:(
 
Pancho said:
I was so happy that Kei Nishikori is now a Champion on the ATP Tour. Something that Donald Young can't say he has. Kei Nishikori is 5 months younger than Donald Young and now hopefully the media would praise Kei Nishikori instead of Donald Young. Donald Young is no longer the youngest darling of the ATP Tour. Donald has yet to win an ATP match this year when Kei has already won an ATP Tournament!

BTW, Kei Nishikori has an incredible mental edge over his opponents - he always keep fighting even when he'd down (like Michael Chang and Serena Williams).

So rememeber days when the media would say Donald Young is the youngest, incredible and what not? Not now! Even if Donald Young wins an ATP Tournament, Kei Nishikori still beats him as the current youngest Champion on ATP Tour.

BTW, Kei Nishikori has never boasted like Donald Young saying he'll win each Grand Slams at least twice.
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Players develop at different rates. Donald Young needs to mature, but the kid has serious game. If and when he gets his head together, he is going to be a serious presence on the tour. No question about it. If you knew anything about tennis, other than being able to quote short-term results, you would see this. I don't care about American tennis, but of all the young Americans out there at the moment, Young is the most talented I have seen. He should come through.
 
Fedace said:
I don't hate Donald at all. I actually like him alot. I hope he becomes mentally tough and win US open 1 day. but sadly as it is right now, his game just is not mateur enough to do well in anything.:(
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Oh, I never said that you hated him. Pancho made some good points to which you agreed with, but the good points that Pancho made were shrouded in a hatred filled post.
 
zagor said:
Kei Nishikori is not an American so do not expect him receive anywhere near the hype Donald Young gets.So far he is a much better player than Young but time will tell,they are both still young and developing.I watched Donald Young against Lopez in the USO and their games look very similar to me,the main difference is that Nishikori is much mentally tougher.
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His playing style is in no way similar to Donald Young...
 
Donald Young and Kei are 2 different people.

DY is American, and because of that, has so much hype and pressure surrounding him. Blame it on the great American players of the past.

KN is Japanese, no one really paid attention to him until yesterday's victory in the final over Blake. He could've played loosely and lost, and it would've been great with him (because he got to an ATP final, what a lucky lucky guy amirite) He will now have pressure to continue to be better, so we'll have to see if he responds well or badly to this pressure.

I don't know if Pete Sampras could've been Pete Sampras if he grew up with lots of media pressure and spotlight on him. He was relatively unknown until his massive win in the US Open vs the hotboy Agassi.

If only DY was afforded this anonymity while growing up, what could've been?
 
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David L said:
Players develop at different rates. Donald Young needs to mature, but the kid has serious game. If and when he gets his head together, he is going to be a serious presence on the tour. No question about it. If you knew anything about tennis, other than being able to quote short-term results, you would see this. I don't care about American tennis, but of all the young Americans out there at the moment, Young is the most talented I have seen. He should come through.
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This is well said. Since Donald's disasterous 0-9 ATP start using WC's he has showed progress. Slowly showed progress but he is getting better a little at a time.

On another note since there are a few here who like to hang their genius on short term results here's something to think about. DY is 1-0 against KN. Beat him 2-2 in the finals of a futures last April. For those who have the ability to look at the bigger picture KN's results should mean good things for DY. Last week being the exception, comparitively DY and KN over the last year have performed and progressed about the same.

http://www.itftennis.com/mens/players/headtohead.asp?player=100029697&opponent=100035263

In reality, great athletes do not use this logic and compare themself in this way. The pundits do. It's one of the reasons why they are pros actually playing the game and we are critics who can only write about it.
 
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andfor said:
This is well said. Since Donald's disasterous 0-9 ATP start using WC's he has showed progress. Slowly showed progress but he is getting better a little at a time.

On another note since there are a few here who like to hang their genius on short term results here's something to think about. DY is 1-0 against KN. Beat him 2-2 in the finals of a futures last April. For those who have the ability to look at the bigger picture KN's results should mean good things for DY. Last week being the exception, comparitively DY and KN over the last year have performed and progressed about the same.

http://www.itftennis.com/mens/players/headtohead.asp?player=100029697&opponent=100035263

In reality, great athletes do not use this logic and compare themself in this way. The pundits do. It's one of the reasons why they are pros actually playing the game and we are critics who can only write about it.
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And they played and won doubles in that same tournament. Anyway, a year is a long time--Kei has improved by leaps and bounds. We'll see about Donald in the coming months.
 
Kei unlike Young seems to have more shots in his arsenal;moves well;seems to be tougher mentally.

Guess when you have been told for as long as you can remember how talented you are by a J.McEnroe for example it kinda makes you get lazy and you don't work hard.
Kei like some many others before him left his country to settle at Nick's and has been quietly working his arse off bettering every shot in his game.Sure he can get stronger and can have bigger serves but man he's got good groundies;is not one dimensional;has got good approach shots and plays well at the net;he's going to need to be more consistent week in and week out :D
 
Pancho said:
I was so happy that Kei Nishikori is now a Champion on the ATP Tour. Something that Donald Young can't say he has. Kei Nishikori is 5 months younger than Donald Young and now hopefully the media would praise Kei Nishikori instead of Donald Young. Donald Young is no longer the youngest darling of the ATP Tour. Donald has yet to win an ATP match this year when Kei has already won an ATP Tournament!

BTW, Kei Nishikori has an incredible mental edge over his opponents - he always keep fighting even when he'd down (like Michael Chang and Serena Williams).

So rememeber days when the media would say Donald Young is the youngest, incredible and what not? Not now! Even if Donald Young wins an ATP Tournament, Kei Nishikori still beats him as the current youngest Champion on ATP Tour.

BTW, Kei Nishikori has never boasted like Donald Young saying he'll win each Grand Slams at least twice.
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Fedace said:
He is the NEW australian open champion, didn't you hear.?? :)
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Actually, the way that Kei has been talked about here the past couple of days you'd think that he's making a serious run at Sampras' Grand Slam record and will get there before Federer does. :shock:

I like Kei's game and I think he has a great future but I this is getting to be a bit much.
 
BreakPoint said:
Actually, the way that Kei has been talked about here the past couple of days you'd think that he's making a serious run at Sampras' Grand Slam record and will get there before Federer does. :shock:

I like Kei's game and I think he has a great future but I this is getting to be a bit much.
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He is the new Young sensation with game like Andres's game, he deserves all the pub
 
Good luck to this guy. But anybody remember the John Isner or Frank Dancevic hype last summer. One good tournament doesnt make the guy a lock for ATP top 10.
 
Pancho said:
BTW, Kei Nishikori has never boasted like Donald Young saying he'll win each Grand Slams at least twice.
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ROFL...did he really boast that? wow. don't like the kid already. Wonder what he was thinking when he got double bageled by carlos berlocq
 
Kei is mentally tough. I just finished watching the Delray Match where he beat top seed James Blake....down first set and came back to win the next two sets (best of three). His serve are returnable, hence is his weakness. His groundstrokes are solid that might do well in clay. Watch out for this kid in the French Open. I just have a good feeling that he'll do well there.
 
ATXtennisaddict said:
I don't know if Pete Sampras could've been Pete Sampras if he grew up with lots of media pressure and spotlight on him. He was relatively unknown until his massive win in the US Open vs the hotboy Agassi.
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Yeah, he was sort of behind the shade of Agassi, Chang, Courier (even David Wheaton)
breaking out in 1988- 89. When they were interviewed about emerging american tennis, they dropped his name to reports, "Hmm,....By the way, there is also a guy named Sampras. You guys probably don't know much about him but he is seriously good."
 
You sure drank your hatorade this morning. Young didn't boast that he'll win each slam twice. He said he "wanted" to win each slam twice. What's wrong with that?
 
JackSkellington said:
And they played and won doubles in that same tournament. Anyway, a year is a long time--Kei has improved by leaps and bounds. We'll see about Donald in the coming months.
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True.

And over the last year Young has won a challenger and been to the finals of 3other challengers. His ranking is currently 95. Kei has not seen the same kind of results and that's why his ranking is 244. Now, out of nowhere KN wins Del Ray Beach and all the progress Young made is bad? Look, I am not defending Young as much as I'm asking folks to look at the whole picture.

Congrats to Kei and good luck going forward. Young has made steady progress since his 0-9 start 3 years ago when he was only 15/16 years old. They are both only 18. When Federer was 18 he finished 1999 #64. Let 2008 play out and see where DY and KN finish.

1 week does not make a career.
 
BreakPoint said:
Actually, the way that Kei has been talked about here the past couple of days you'd think that he's making a serious run at Sampras' Grand Slam record and will get there before Federer does. :shock:

I like Kei's game and I think he has a great future but I this is getting to be a bit much.
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This is a tennis message board, there's no major tournament going on, and this kid has a sensational game -- what's wrong if we talk about him?
 
hyogen said:
ROFL...did he really boast that? wow. don't like the kid already. Wonder what he was thinking when he got double bageled by carlos berlocq
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Another poster said that he only said he wanted to win all the Slams. Read the whole thread before you jump to conclusions.
 
zagor said:
Kei Nishikori is not an American so do not expect him receive anywhere near the hype Donald Young gets.So far he is a much better player than Young but time will tell,they are both still young and developing.I watched Donald Young against Lopez in the USO and their games look very similar to me,the main difference is that Nishikori is much mentally tougher.
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Young gets a lot of hype in America and I presume that Nishikori does in Japan. Whats wrong with that?
 
Leublu tennis said:
Young gets a lot of hype in America and I presume that Nishikori does in Japan. Whats wrong with that?
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Nishikori just became a Millionare in Japan, due to flood of endorsement money now coming in. He can just forget about money all together and just concentrate on tennis.
 
Rickson said:
Boris Becker won Wimbledon at 17. DY has no more excuses for his poor performance on the ATP level. KN sure looks like he has a brighter future than DY, but then again, Federer didn't dominate the tour until he was 22.
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Baron von "Boom" won Wimbledon at 17, I think that in itself should show that Donald Young is different from him...

Donald Young does seem to be lagging a little, but it's just like you said, Federer didn't start dominating until age 22.
 
Donald Young had a lucky break at the SAP Open. Number 5 seed Hyung-Taik Lee (KOR) had to be replaced due to a back problem, so Young was put up against lucky loser Wayne Odesnik instead.

Young took this opportunity and.... Odesnik is through to the next round. :)
 
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