Kenin’s malicious use of moonballs against modern style players

bleno567

Semi-Pro
Super effective on the women's tour especially, since many players are sub 6', so they have to stand further back to let it drop in their strike zone.
 

NADALalot

Hall of Fame
Hingis did the same, and has a 17-17 record vs. the Williams sisters.
11-10 vs. Venus
6-7 vs. Serena
And that was when Williams were at their most athletic....
 

travlerajm

G.O.A.T.
Who would win between @travlerajm , Kenin and MEP in a round robin tournament :)
I am working on my Covid-fearful wife to allow me to take plane rides, so that I can resume my TT tour schedule. MEP is on my short list.

I am still riding a high from earning a spot on the 2019 All-TTW 4.5 first-team roster with my almost-5.0 dynamic rating, so I expect I would go in as slight favorite against MEP. But he has swagger, so I would need to prepare seriously.

Kenin would destroy me, especially because I would be too distracted between points to bring my A game focus.
 

Swingmaster

Professional
While I loath to watch and play against someone who plays that way, you have admire her desire to do whatever it takes to win.
It’s not like she does it continuously. Only strategically. Anyone who does it continuously deserves to be eaten by hungry dogs.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
I hope she goes far. These one-trick-pony baseline bashers have no answer for her moonballs on clay.
She does lob some balls on occasion. But ALL you USTA players 4.5 and down can learn tons from her baseline stretegies. Type of low shots and high shots she mixes up just at the right occasions. Using deep balls then short balls in angles to manuver opponents out of position and going for the kill. Her father must be master tactician or learned by watching videos of Hingis 24/7.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
And all you USTA 4.5 guys, don't say you just go out there and over-power your opponents or don't need this kind of variety mixing up shots. That is BS. I played plenty of 4.5 singles in the past(albeit just doubles now due to past injuries) and this kind of stretegy can work like any 80 MPH groundies or 90 + MPH serves in beating any 4.5 players.
 

USO

Hall of Fame
Isn't Djokovic doing the same thing with his continuous use of the drop shot on the men's side? (as well as Hugo Gaston)

Most ATP players are confused on what to do and miss so many balls when they are faced with these drop shots.

So unfortunately most players on both tours are one-trick pony bashers, not only the WTA.
 

Injured Again

Hall of Fame
Who would win between Kenin and MEP?
You're kidding, right? There's an eleven year old girl at our club who competes closely against 5.0 men. **Eleven**. No 4.5, who would be at best a UTR 9, has any chance against any WTA pro who would be a UTR 12 to 13.
 

pasta

Rookie
Great tactic but very annoying, ugly to watch, hard to be at the receiving end and very hard to execute ...

It would not work on player that can take ball higher ("jumper") ... especially on clay ...
 

wangs78

Hall of Fame
Kenin's game is fun to watch. She moves her opponent around, hits angles, uses droppers and lobs and comes to the net to finish points. She doesn't have a lot of natural power so has to play this way but she does so extremely well. And she's a fighter. I'm so glad we are well past the days of Safina, Jankovic, Ivanonic when top players had mental breakdowns on court on a regular basis.
 

pasta

Rookie
+1

She is full of energy, you can see that she is hard thinker - when things don't go her way she is able to think what went wrong and adjust and the attitude is just infectious ... moving about the court like that, with the purpose ... Love it !

But ... you still have to be physically strong and modern game tends to favor big, strong players ... I wish her well it is refreshing to see player like her competing as hard and having success !!!

And I am 100% sure that she is a very good chess player ...
 

zipplock

Hall of Fame
Junkballin'... WTA style. It works because it has only one defense, patience. I know because I have no patience.
 

TagUrIt

Hall of Fame
If Kenin was moonballing, it was intentional and with purpose. She’s a smart tennis player that knows how win matches. She also knows how to hit the cover off of a tennis ball too, I love watching her play. She walks around the court like it’s her house and how dare you come in and try to take anything away from me.
 
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pasta

Rookie
Monica Puig, Sloane Stevens ...

One Slam (Big Title) wonders .. she has to avoid that, good showing at 4/5 consecutive Slams ... confidence is in her, now it has to come from results ...
 

blablavla

Legend
Isn't Djokovic doing the same thing with his continuous use of the drop shot on the men's side? (as well as Hugo Gaston)

Most ATP players are confused on what to do and miss so many balls when they are faced with these drop shots.

So unfortunately most players on both tours are one-trick pony bashers, not only the WTA.
and Marco Cecchinato
 

NADALalot

Hall of Fame
Crying is the most charming look for a female tennis player, I wish they cried more.
They are too masculine already with their muscles.
Kenin has the best cry and actually despite having muscles she looks more female than most.
 

a10best

Hall of Fame
While I loath to watch and play against someone who plays that way, you have admire her desire to do whatever it takes to win.
No, I don't have to admire that style. It is horrible for the game & embarrassing for Americans. I throw her Father/coach in there too. There are rules and unwritten rules.
 

a10best

Hall of Fame
Sofia Kenin is the perfect player.
She's 100% humble, 100% passionate, 100% intelligent and 100% athletic.
She is 100% unlikeable on the court. Her and Collins are terrible. Most charismatic. More like the most agitated and frustrated when she is losing.
She has no shot that is overpowering , no weapon at all. Simply another Wozniacki but in a far weaker era.
 

McLovin

Legend
No, I don't have to admire that style.
I think you misread my post. I said you have to admire her desire to do whatever it takes to win. I never said anything about admiring that style of play.

Too many players get caught up in this image of playing a certain style and making the highlight reel. Kenin has shown she has an 'A', 'B', and 'C' game, and is willing to employ all of them within a match if that is what it takes to win. The concept of 'unwritten rules' is complete BS. There is nothing in the rule book saying drop shots, moon balls, underhand serves, etc. are against rules, and if they fluster your opponent, why not use them?

Now, will I watch a match like that? Most likely not. But in the end she's moving on to the next round, and her opponent is going home. Mission accomplished.
 
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