Kerber to Andreescu: you're the biggest drama queen ever"

Tennis_Hands

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#51
It's certainly obvious that Andreescu is not intimidated by Kerber - and she can be a little obnoxious - last week she bounced some balls to the other end after games that actually hit Kerber - never seen that before! Seemed a bit rude. But, I do enjoy her game, moon balling and all (speaking of moon balling, I watched an Agassi/Edberg match from back in the day last week and guess who was moon balling like crazy? Mr. Agassi). It's nice to see some more variety. And, if she is a prodigy when it comes to playing possum, she's following in illustrious footsteps. Anyway, good for her that she was able to do it again - too bad for Kerber that she got a little bent out of shape about it, but that's OK too. onward and upward.
Interesting.

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#55
So no one watched the match or understands why remarks are made but thay doesn't stop a lot of self important indignation. Whens the crucifixion?

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#62
I just watched highlights with her and Kerber.

Prediction: once the tour gets used to her extreme moonballing she will have severe problems with keeping up with the top guns.

Her movement is also quite suspect.

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Extreme moonballing? She throws a moon ball up once in a while and mixes in some slices and drop shots. But her bread and butter are knocking the crap out of the ball. You obviously didn’t watch the match because this girl takes over the point with her power hitting not moonballing.
 
#63
Nah no respect is needed, Kyrgios was right about not needing to respect the big 3 on court, we dont need any more were all friends, we all like each other, we all want each other to do well stuff.

We want rivalries, we want some needle between players, we want to watch 2 players play that dont like each other.

Now the next time Kerber meets Andreescu its going to be even more interesting.
Profit gatherers established PC cult/religion to generate more profit by inclusion of incompetent made possible by transforming human civilization into cartoon for borderline mentally chalenged. Forget real life rivalries, that's too complex, unbearably demanding for limited intelect.

No PC agenda in 'races/sexes drama' can be invented here to be additionally milked. Therefore, they both (Kerber esp.) will be 'kindly asked' (warned) to calm it down. Next time they meet it will be pretty much BFF, hugs, kisses and all.

It's no rocket science, really. You can bookmark this post to read it again when next meeting of them happens.

(the tweet above cofirmed the above in no time)
 
#64
What did I say earlier about the dull "were all friends and want each other to do well" nonsense. Lo and behold...

Its nothing but a PR exercise.

The dullest and most predictable thing she could do is say "I didnt mean it, I was tired and I apologise if I caused any offense". Yawn.

She should stick to her guns. "I meant what I said".

Meanwhile Andreescu should retaliate and say what everyones thinking "Kerber is a sore loser cause she got beat by an 18 year old twice in a week."
 
#66
That is a good question.

Some posters have suggested that Andreescu took a medical timeout (just one), like that is some sort of crime? And no other tennis player ever takes a medical

timeout? She had stiff shoulder muscles from last week. Sounds like a massage was in order.

She was well within the rules.

Andreescu had cramps in last week's final. Is that not a good reason to get a massage? I always thought so.

Nothing adds up to Kerber's remark.

Andreescu makes the odd fist pump. Is that unusual? Are rookie pros forbidden from making any gestures? Not that I know of.

I cannot see any good reason for Kerber's act.
If Kerber was angry due to MTO's opponent, so she's a hypocrite. She herself used MTO in the 2R (Karolina Muchova was the opponent).
 

Tennis_Hands

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#68
Extreme moonballing? She throws a moon ball up once in a while and mixes in some slices and drop shots. But her bread and butter are knocking the crap out of the ball. You obviously didn’t watch the match because this girl takes over the point with her power hitting not moonballing.
I obviously watched the highlights, and I wrote as much, but in these highlights she threw moon balls more than once or twice (I think that I counted around ten instances of such play only for the highlights), and several times it was absurd to watch.

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#72
I obviously watched the highlights, and I wrote as much, but in these highlights she threw moon balls more than once or twice (I think that I counted around ten instances of such play only for the highlights), and several times it was absurd to watch.

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Call it what you will but it was very effective and induced a few short balls for putaways. Nothing wrong with a change of pace, also gives you a chance to catch your breath and reset.
 

Big_Dangerous

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#74
Nobody here has stopped to put themselves in Kerber's place. You're a top player, a former no.1 with 3 majors in your impressive resume, and suddenly this spunky 18 year old comes in and pulls the chair from under you. Brutal.
Not sure why posting an oversize picture of Kerber celebrating on the court does anything to help your case in defense of her...

Additionally, you are basically saying that Kerber was a sore loser having lost twice to this younger player in the last week, which is why she made that comment. Losing to the same player twice in a week doesn't justify saying something like that. Nadal lost twice to Federer back in 2017 in about a 2 week span, and he never said anything like that to Fed. Heck, he lost to Fed 4 times in 2017, including 3 finals (2 Masters 1000's and a Slam) and still he never made any sour grapes comments to Federer at the net.
 
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Tennis_Hands

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#76
Call it what you will but it was very effective and induced a few short balls for putaways. Nothing wrong with a change of pace, also gives you a chance to catch your breath and reset.
It strained Kerber some, but Kerber saw that and several times moon balled her back, which tells me that as the time passes the top players will get used to those tactics and will have their own. Actually, in the instances where Kerber moon balled her back more often than not she won the point.

From what I saw Andreescu was using that tactic to get herself in position to pound the ball at first chance, so moon balling her back with precision or slicing her would prove to be an effective tactic in the future.

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Tennis_Hands

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#77
They're pro players, so they know that when they are scheduled for last on, there's always a possibility that it could start quite late. Not to mention the fact that the late start applied to both players. I'm not sure if you are making this comment to defend Kerber or justify what she said. I certainly hope that isn't the case, because clearly a later starting match is not a reason to make such a ****ty comment to your opponent.

This sounds like it was all Kerber and nothing Bianca did on the court warranted that kind of comment. I sincerely hope Kerber issues some sort of an apology, because that's just an incredibly disrespectful thing to say, and honestly, Kerber looks like the real drama queen starting for starting **** for no reason.
A poster said that he saw Andreescu making some provocative things towards Kerber, so maybe not be so quick with the conclusions, no?

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#91
I watched both matches and here are my two cents on what I observed. 1.) During the Indian Wells Final Andreescu accidentally hit Kerber with the ball at least twice when her back was turned. Kerber was visibly p****** about it. 2.) Andreescu behaves as if she is slightly injured or getting cramps in almost all her matches, however, her game never seems remotely hampered by it. 3.) The handshake/kiss after the Indian Wells match appeared quite awkward. 4.) Kerber was slightly injured herself during last night’s match. 5.) Kerber was in a BAD mood all night, in fact she’s been in a crappy mood most of this season. 6.) She (Kerber) came back and won the 2nd set, then was blown out in the third. 7.) Who knows what else was going behind the scenes? Her mom could’ve been annoying her, not happy about playing late or playing a playing a player of that caliber in the third round, etc. On a side note, does anyone remember the exchange she had with Cornet a few years back? And Cornet is most definitely a drama queen.
 
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#92
I think Kerber was in a bad mood and was being snarky, but you make a great point about Andreescu. She is an unusually strategic player and I don't doubt some of that gasping and limping and massaging between points is done for effect. She plays too well in the points to be seriously hurt or fatigued.
Isnt that part of the game? Flopping and trying to get away with it? It is in other sports. Maybe there should be a penalty or just call it a TO and not an MTO. Kerber was just butthurt about losing is all.
 
#97
I think Kerber was in a bad mood and was being snarky, but you make a great point about Andreescu. She is an unusually strategic player and I don't doubt some of that gasping and limping and massaging between points is done for effect. She plays too well in the points to be seriously hurt or fatigued.
Like nobody takes a medical check? Nobody fist-pumps? Right.
 
Kerber wasn't being a sore loser, she was complimenting Andreescu on her gamesmanship. Andreescu has taken the Delpro style of 'playing possum' to new levels. She's always out of breath, on the verge of cramping and generally just one racket stroke away from deaths door. She uses MTO's as a way to affect the direction of the match, and draw the crowd and commentators over to her side. At 18 she shows a remarkable talent for knowing what to 'stage' to create a win.
Are you sure she's playing possum and not actually tired, on the verge of cramping and has a shoulder injury? I watched her interactions with her coach at IW and she seemed to be legitimately dying out there in the heat. Hard to fake that kind of despondency. She also totally changes her gameplan to going for winners when she gets like this. If she was playing possum, she wouldn't go straight to shortening points.

I think calling it "staged" is a pretty uncalled for accusation. Bianca has had injuries and has played a lot of tennis. I suspect if this wasn't a Premier Mandatory event, she'd be taking a little time off.
 
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