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Try getting CBC, where these stories were discussed.
That is what happened to everything you wanted to prove:
Try getting CBC, where these stories were discussed.
I had no reason to dislike this girl, and I honestly don't even like Kerber all that much.Fair enough. I won't try to change your opinion. Lord knows it probably wouldn't do any good, and that's fine. I don't care, but IMO this has much more to do with Kerber simply being angry about losing twice to someone she probably considers herself to be superior to at this point. I think that's being underestimated, and I have yet to hear a good argument against Kerber likely never in a million years saying something like that to Sharapova or Serena for example. So it's a lot of sour grapes for me.
I had no reason to dislike this girl, and I honestly don't even like Kerber all that much.
My opinion is subject to change. We'll see how she matures as a player, and if she cleans up her act I won't have a problem with her. But this was one of the worst possible first impressions.
I think that is your argument which just wrecked....look at Kerber's posting I gave you above.That is what happened to everything you wanted to prove:
I think that is your argument which just wrecked....look at Kerber's posting I gave you above.
Bon voyage.Adios.
LOL, I remember that retirement. Like I said, I am not a big Kerber fan. But just because it may be hypocritical, it doesn't mean it's not warranted.Yes, we'll see. After all it's not like Kerber hasn't retired down 5-0 before she was just about to lose the match once before . This is why I laugh at a lot of drama that happens in tennis, and on the WTA in particular. It's all very catty. Kerber is throwing around these insults without looking in the mirror. And then her PR team is covering the damage. LOL.
LOL, I remember that retirement. Like I said, I am not a big Kerber fan. But just because it may be hypocritical, it doesn't mean it's not warranted.
If Tomic were to voice his displeasure at someone tanking a match, it shouldn't be taken less seriously than Federer making the same criticism
That was indeed unfortunate.
Especially for a player with the movement of Davenport, the hands of Radwanska, the power of Serena Williams, and the IQ of Hingis, as one poster here assured me that she is.
Some odd posters are a little sluggish, too.If you are gonna quote me, at least do it correctly genius.
I said she had the movement of Kim Clisters, not Davenport.
Who would want to move like Davenport, she was a slug.
Some odd posters are a little sluggish, too.
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You had your time, now back to the cave as the sun is coming out.
I thought you gave us the "adios"? Miss your plane?You had your time, now back to the cave as the sun is coming out.
Whatever dude.
You don't even know the difference between Kim Clisters and Lindsey Davenport LOL
I reposted the Kerber communication above on this page, it shows you how strongly the public reaction has been in favour of Bianca and against Kerber'sOh, I know it, I just couldn't bother to check what rubbish you have written, as it doesn't make sense anyway.
Now, continue with your inane babbling. I don't think that you or your friend here have anything of note to contribute with. Apparently after 4 times writing the same thing you still couldn't understand it, so normal conversation is impossible.
Adios.
Oh, I know it, I just couldn't bother to check what rubbish you have written, as it doesn't make sense anyway.
Now, continue with your inane babbling. I don't think that you or your friend here have anything of note to contribute with. Apparently after 4 times writing the same thing you still couldn't understand it, so normal conversation is impossible.
Adios.
Nobody here has stopped to put themselves in Kerber's place.
Not sure why posting an oversize picture of Kerber celebrating on the court does anything to help your case in defense of her...
I just finished watching the highlights of the kerber Andreescu match and heard kerber say to her, "you're the biggest drama queen ever", at the net.
I'm a huge Kerber fan, but that sort of bitchyness is totally inappropriate and uncalled for.
She is usually so humble and should just accept that she lost to a better player. Bianca is on the rise and is not going away anytime soon.
I haven't heard much about this exchange in the news just yet, but feel like if Serena or someone else had done it, it would be in the headlines.
Come on Angie, you won 3 slams, at 3 different tournaments you should be grateful for the career you've had so far.
You should be ashamed of yourself girl!
She was completely wrong about it, but this had nothing to do with Bianca, it was all about Kerber.not if she was completely correct about it. and she was....
It will continue to fester until the association does something to stop vigilante tactics.The Andreescu/Kerber soap opera will continue into the Spring months. I hope NK injects some more oh his commentary to fire this up to another level. Will these two meet in the coming weeks? Let’s hope it is very soon rather then later. Kerber will like that!
A veteran like Kerber, who has never made such comments in the past, must have had a strong reason to say this.
Nothing "circular" about seeing someone act sick/hurt/injured/tired, then magically turn on the afterburners to win anyway and conclude that it's gamesmanship and fakery
We now have a report that Andreescu had shoulder surgery last year, plus a stress fracture in her foot, so some MTO usage is normal.I'm generally on Andreescu's side but a lot of those games seemed to go to deuce (or game point Andreescu) before Kontaveit won them. The score after 9 games could have been drastically different on another day.
I never said it can be proven. You can only look at the facts and draw your own conclusions.So if someone appears hurt and wins they are faking. If someone appears hurt then retires they are faking to avoid a thrashing. See where all conclusions circle back to fit a narrative that can’t be proven. And we want to believe this unprovable narrative because of a sour grapes comment from a salty competitor?
Sounds like a great way to assess a situation.
This is in the WTA's court now, the players have other things to do.
The overall governance of player behaviour is up to the association.
It may be difficult for the players in general to play the game if anger management problems are left unchecked.
If I were a player, I would decline to play against Kerber until this matter was resolved.
This matter has nothing to do with Andreescu, there was no unusual medical protocol issue, and Kerber was not upset about the MTO.
That's where this composite compliment went haywire.That was indeed unfortunate.
Especially for a player with the movement of Davenport, the hands of Radwanska, the power of Serena Williams, and the IQ of Hingis, as one poster here assured me that she is.
That's where this composite picture went haywire.
Davenport had assets, but movement wasn't one of them -- in fact the opposite: it was her biggest liability.
I find it interesting that no player in the WTA has come to the defense of Andreescu in face of this supposedly terrible transgression from Kerber, who is no darling herself.
Maybe the players know something?
I never said it can be proven. You can only look at the facts and draw your own conclusions.
It is my opinion that it's faked, given her age, the results of the matches and how she played, and her retirement history. This opinion is subject to change if contradicting evidence is presented.
I find it interesting that no player in the WTA has come to the defense of Andreescu in face of this supposedly terrible transgression from Kerber, who is no darling herself.
Maybe the players know something?
Says the meister.Booo, hoooo. Another smart guy. OK, for you too. I didn't even care what the guy said, let alone quote him correctly. Yes, Davenport was not a good mover, although she did start to move better after she shed a bit of weight and she was a big girl, so that of kind supposes it too. The point of repeating the tripe of the guy was irony. When someone starts making a puzzle of players that basically have little in common, you know that they are just spewing BS.
Which is precisely why the WTA has to get involved.Kerber has been on the tour a long long time and probably knows a lot of WTA players both professionally and socially. She's never given any hint to being an isolated Maria Sharapova type figure or anything like that. Peers won't throw her to the wolves over one bad handshake.
Andreescu on the other hand - presumably she's an unknown character on tour (even if secretly she's a saint). She's younger than the majority of players and still beating them up. People aren't going to start tweeting en masse going 'leave her alone she's awesome!'
Without the WTA asking questions, nothing will get resolved, it will fester, nasty stuff could well happen at the Canadian Open, future matches between theseWasn't that what Kyrgios text was all about?
I guess he's not WTA.
AS far as I know, none of the WTA professionals have been interviewed about it. Do you think they should be talking about something that is none of their business? It's probably stupid that we are talking about it and coming to anyone's defense.
It was a mean and rude remark that probably should be privately apologized for. And the rest of us need not worry about it. And probably shouldn't be piling on either side without more evidence to draw conclusions from.
There was one MTO, only one, related to her shoulder, and some massages during a crossover...all completely within the rules. No one complained or challenged.
It must be something else. Like too much media attention for the new star on the block.
I really doubt that Kerber was bothered by the MTO...she even called an MTO herself, so they had one each.What is the big deal about a MTO? Kerber could use it as an opportunity to rest or whatever. If Kerber is thrown off by an opponents MTO she is mentally WEAK to begin with.
I really doubt that Kerber was bothered by the MTO...she even called an MTO herself, so they had one each.
I suspect that Kerber was bothered by Andreescu's fist pumps and screams, even though Kerber does them herself.
Bianca does it better.
Bianca also had the crowd behind her at both IW and Miami....that must hurt.
It also hurts some of the critical posters here, that the reigning Wimbledon champ is overshadowed by a rookie.
I can hear the pain.
Well put.She is a young Canadian underdog. It's natural that crowds in the U.S. will favor her over a sore-loser German.
"You're a drama queen", was a nasty thing to say. Bianca should have slapped her. But she already did that in the last 2 matches.
Well put.
I think that the full spiel was "You're the biggest drama queen ever. Well done."
Yeah, like Kerber gets the Oscar for catty put-down of the year.
Bianca didn't even hear it, but unfortunately for Kerber, the microphones got it...and her.
Rudest "handshake" I've ever seen. She didn't even look at Bianca to shake hands.
Turned away and muttered her insult.
Her right (serving) shoulder reportedly had surgery last year, she is essentially still in post op recovery, it is not yet 100%.What happened to Bianca against Kontaveit? Was she injured or just exhausted? She was getting beat pretty bad. I didn't see the match.
You have got the right idea, this is a potential gold mine, possibly bigger than Riggs/King.Kerber or this other girl could win the calendar year grand slam and you wouldn’t get 7 pages on TTW (unless it was about how difficult it is to do compared to how difficult it is in the men’s game).
This is what the WTA desperately needs.