Kim vs Lindsay and Capriati if she wins 3rd U.S Open this year

I compared their 3rd, 2nd, and 1st toughest opponents directly in case you hadnt noticed. If you want to compare them directly by round though (substituting 4th rounder Venus for a quarterfinal for obvious reasons) then fine.

Clijsters 2009 U.S Open 4th round opponent Venus >>>> Maria 2006 U.S Open quarterfinal opponent Golovin

Clijsters 2009 U.S Open semifinal opponent Serena >>>> Maria 2006 U.S Open semifinal opponent Mauresmo

Clijsters 2009 U.S Open final opponent Wozniacki <<<< Maria 2006 U.S Open final opponent Henin

Only someone on crack would suggest beating both Williams soon after they met at the Wimbledon final is easier than beating Henin and Mauresmo, when Mauresmo has never made a final at the U.S Open and isnt in the league of those other 3 players nor Maria or Kim on a fast hard court.

let's speak with facts, shall we? and look at their form on that tournament itself

Maria oppoenet:

Final: Henin: Finalist at every tournament except FO
SF: Mauresmo: Slam Champion at AO and Wimbly, SF at USO. Clearly on fire, her best season.
QF: Golovin : furthest she went in slam, QF for the 1st time in USO, clearly on fire.


Kim opponent:

Final : Wozniacki: Finalist at USO (fluke one at that)
SF: Serena Williams: Slam clampion at AO and Wimbly
QF: Li Na: a ticking time bomb who'll explode herself if you just hang on long enough


4R: Venus Williams : 4R against her lofty standard of frequent champions, finalist and SF sppearance, clearly off-fire, in a slump. can't be used to infer how strong kim opponent is, because she's so weak during that tournament.



So there you go. Maria thumps Kim in 06 USO !!!!!!
 
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Ivanovic is a one shot pony whose limitations were quickly exposed and crashed down to earth, probably never to return to the elite again. Vera has a good chance of atleast matching or surpassing Ana's achievements as a player in the next couple years.

I agree about Kim's 2010 U.S Open win, but her other 2 U.S Open wins were against tougher competition than any of Maria's slams.

Ivanovic was at her prime in the 1st half of 2008. Fianlist at AO and Champions of FO.

Vera match was just unbearable....
 
Venus and Sharapova are tied 3-3. And people seem to be forgetting that Kim her 2009 USO after an 18 month retirement and it was only her third tournament back.
 
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let's speak with facts, shall we? and look at their form on that tournament itself

Maria oppoenet:

Final: Henin: Finalist at every tournament except FO
SF: Mauresmo: Slam Champion at AO and Wimbly, SF at USO. Clearly on fire, her best season.
QF: Golovin : furthest she went in slam, QF for the 1st time in USO, clearly on fire.


Kim opponent:

Final : Wozniacki: Finalist at USO (fluke one at that)
SF: Serena Williams: Slam clampion at AO and Wimbly
QF: Li Na: a ticking time bomb who'll explode herself if you just hang on long enough


4R: Venus Williams : 4R against her lofty standard of frequent champions, finalist and SF sppearance, clearly off-fire, in a slump. can't be used to infer how strong kim opponent is, because she's so weak during that tournament.



So there you go. Maria thumps Kim in 06 USO !!!!!!

You are an idiot if you think Venus in a year she is a major contender (which she clearly was in in 09) is ever an easier opponent at the U.S Open than Mauresmo even in her best year ever. A fast hard court is Mauresmo's worst surface and she was never ever a real threat to win the U.S Open. Venus or Serena would have won the 2009 U.S Open hands down without Kim. And the only reason Venus lost in the 4th round was she had the bad luck to play Kim just coming to tour and obviously with barely any ranking points and unseeded. And Serena is obviously tougher than Henin overall, especialy in a year Serena was dominant Henin would lose every non French Open final. And Wozniacki is obviously far better than Golovin.

Continue your delusion that Maria's 06 U.S Open win was more impressive than Kim's 09 but it will never make it so.

Anyway the fact you wont even argue Kim's 05 U.S Open draw was tougher than Maria's 04 Wimbledon (thus you concede), that we arguing the 06 U.S Open draw of Maria vs Kim of 09, and one other we concede was tougher for Maria, then that already shows Maria did not have tougher competition to win her slams than Kim. At best it was on par.

And I notice you didnt even bother to acknowledge my pointing out Maria at her best losing 5 straight slam semis between slam wins. So how can you mock Kim (especialy with wandering motivation, coachless and soon to retire) for losing 4 slam semis in a row when Maria during her uninjured peak even tops that streak, LOL! Kim has not proven herself capable of dominating a strong field, but Maria sure as heck has never come close to doing it either. At best Maria at her best is the same as Kim in that regard, mostly a pretender to #1 who might get there briefly with little conviction against a strong field, and someone incapable of dominating and running up slams even agaisnt a weaker one.

Kim was just as much a force when the field was really strong as Maria ever was. Kim was a major contender the entire 2001-2005 period. She most played second fiddle to people like Venus, Serena, and Henin, but Maria did the same during her days as a contender too, she was NEVER the top dog as her never winning a slam title in back to back years (nor more than 1 in any given year) proves. Maria won 2 of her 3 slams after the field began to think out in 2006 as well, just like Kim, and won her U.S Open with Kim unable to defend her title due to injury. 2006 had both Williams sisters barely playing and not even contenders at all, and someone like Mauresmo the #1 most of the year, and you mock Kim for beating them when they are atleast a force again. What a joke.
 
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Before this USO win, my list was:

1) Lindsay
2) Kim
3) Maria

It's still the same after this win. Kim just moves closer to Lindsay. A few more titles, reaching #1 (over Serena), and ending a year at #1...or, winning another slam, would push her above Lindsay for me.
 
Who cares for all this? All I know, is that Davenport like a lot of us, was given some things by the creator, and absolutely devoid of others. What she did to reshape a terrible body for tennis was one of the most impressive things I have ever seen. Absolutely amazing. And she would have destroyed players who pushed like Woz and Zavon.

I was a pro tennis player and then went completely nuts on the party circuit and woke up one day, fifty pounds heavier than my playing weight of 160lbs. It took a lot of work, diet change, lifestyle change etc.. to get back down to my playing weight. Phenomenal WORK. And discipline.

Davenport had the nastiest game in tennis history. She would have been horrible to play against. I am glad I never had to play someone like her. My hat is off to her. People say she was weak mentally? Heck, she was amazing.

Tennis is optimum playing at the weight of a Djokovic. And do not let ANYONE tell you otherwise. Its tthe reason he is rewarded yesterday. He can't enjoy being that light, but he is smart enough to know that the body can only run for so long and take so much, when extra weight is being carried around.
 
As noted before, though the following all have three majors each, Kim and Capriati were the only members of this group to prove their brief dominance by defending their title. Sharapova and Davenport were clearly incapable of doing that, so in the end, their accomplishments are not as impressive in the grand scheme of history. Perhaps if either returned even a few years later to win on a previoulsy captured surface, it would say their win was not such a fluke, but that will not happen to Davenport for obvious reasons, and Sharapova appears to be fading by the month.
 
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