Klippermate Important Question

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David123

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Hey guys i am at 5.0 tennis player with a big forehand. I break strings twice a week and I've been looking to buy a stringing machine. To get right to the point, I've been highly considering getting the Klippermate for $140. However i am wondering whether or not and if so to what extent does using machine affect my playability. For example if i were to buy a $1000 electronic stringing machine how much of a difference (if any at all) would be produced from stringing with a $1000 machine and the Klippermate. In addition if i were to take 2 of the same exact rackets, same tension, same string, same player, same outdoor conditions, and one were to be strung by a $1000 machine and one were to be strung with a klippermate would the player be able to distinguish between the two by the quality?

I was about to enter my credit card number to buy the Klippermate when i had to ask this critical question. It is very important because i am a serious/competitive player who cares about his game, and string efficiency is very important to me.

Ps. i am planning on hybriding my racket k six one 95 (16x 18 ) with a synthetic gut and polyester would this be possible with the klippermate?

All opinions are highly appriciated.

Thanks.
 
since you're so serious about the game and are such a great player, just spend $1k+ on a stringer. since i don't care that much about the game and because i'm really not that good, i bought a crappy klippermate...
 
I too play at what would be considered a 5.0 tennis level in Australia. Most of my tennis playing friends are at the same level and they consistently rate my Klippermate string jobs on their racquets at least the equal of the string jobs they previously obtained at pro shops.

The only difference you would notice if you personally strung the same frame on an expensive machine versus a Klippermate would more than likely be a difference in tension. If you take care, there is no difference in 'quality'. The Klippermate, becasue it is a dropweight, would also take longer to string a racquet than a 'high end' machine. That said, don't delay - buy your own stringing machine and you'll never look back!!
 
60lbs is 60lbs. From a klipper to a 5 star. It will just take you longer using a klippermate. I just got one and its awesome.
 
And judgeing from my other thread, there is no significant evidence 2 point machines cause the frame to deform more then a 6 point machine.
 
The only factor that there really is the question how much time to you want to spend stringing like for example it would probably take you about 2 hrs your first time but its possible to lower it to 30 mins and with an electric machine you just start with 1 and a half hrs as your longest and 20 as your shortest

MAIN DIFFERENCE TIME!
 
aussie said:
"...don't delay - buy your own stringing machine and you'll never look back!!"
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Very true, and I also subscribe to the line of thinking that any machine is better than no machine, so whether you opt for a Klippermate or a Gamma 5003 you'll never regret it. A few things to consider:

* There's something to be said for buying the most machine you can afford right off the bat.

* At the same time, the risk is if you find you don't care for stringing, you'll be burdened with having to unload the machine at a moderate loss.

* The nice thing about starting at the low-end is if you don't care for stringing, selling/shipping a Klippermate is a snap, and you can likely get out of it without having lost a dime since they pay for themselves in no time at all.

If you don't know if you'll like stringing, see if your current stringer will let you give it a go or pay for a lesson or three, see what it's like. If you think it's for you, buy the most machine you can afford. With the higher priced machines what you're also buying is ease of use, usually making the stringing experience more enjoyable.

Personally, the convenience alone was worth it to me, but I found that I really enjoy the process as well. I'm set up in my own little room away from the wife, kid, dogs, I have music, tv/dvd, a small fridge...and most of all, privacy. ;)

Anyway, good luck in your choice!
 
Alright thanks a lot guys... and i dont know.. i dont see myself buying a machine more expensive than 200$ id rather spend it on reels and use a cheaper machine if the quality isnt affected. Thanks a guys.
 
David123 said:
Alright thanks a lot guys... and i dont know.. i dont see myself buying a machine more expensive than 200$ id rather spend it on reels and use a cheaper machine if the quality isnt affected. Thanks a guys.
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Just get a Klippermate and resell it if you find it's not suit your style :)
 
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David123 said:
Another additional note is if the same stringer strung both rackets (for the distinguishing example)
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A quality higher end machine would have a decent set of fixed clamps, and less drawback than the floating clamps that come with the cheaper machine, therefore there would be a difference in tension loss. Consistancy can be obtained, which is the most important thing, but you did ask if the 2 can be distinguished, which they can in my opinion.Some posters here say that most cannot distinguish between 2 identical racquets of a # of lbs.difference in tension. I do not agree with that, but each has there own opinions on that issue and thats a different subject. You can upgrade and get some real quality floating clamps, but if you go that route, you may as well just get a machine with fixed clamps from the start, as you would be paying a price for quality floaters.
Also if you are planning on stringing a # of Prince O port racquets,(you did not mention if you would be stringing for other people as well), you may wish to get a machine with a decent brake as well, as it would make life alot easier. Just a thought.
You can get a quality job as others here testify to,as consistancy is the key with stringing, but you did ask about distinguishing the difference in your question.
You did ask for all opinions, so this is my opinion, even though I know many here do not agree with this.
 
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jim e said:
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A quality higher end machine would have a decent set of fixed clamps, and less drawback than the floating clamps that come with the cheaper machine, therefore there would be a difference in tension loss. Consistancy can be obtained, which is the most important thing, but you did ask if the 2 can be distinguished, which they can in my opinion.Some posters here say that most cannot distinguish between 2 identical racquets of a # of lbs.difference in tension. I do not agree with that, but each has there own opinions on that issue and thats a different subject. You can upgrade and get some real quality floating clamps, but if you go that route, you may as well just get a machine with fixed clamps from the start, as you would be paying a price for quality floaters.
Also if you are planning on stringing a # of Prince O port racquets,(you did not mention if you would be stringing for other people as well), you may wish to get a machine with a decent brake as well, as it would make life alot easier. Just a thought.
You can get a quality job as others here testify to,as consistancy is the key with stringing, but you did ask about distinguishing the difference in your question.
You did ask for all opinions, so this is my opinion, even though I know many here do not agree with this.
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Ahhh,

Nice post Jim. There are differences with a low end 2 point system and a higher end machine. 2 point vs 6 point is not the issue as many have stated and many have ignored. The support and mounting system is the main difference as is the drawback issue. A decent set of fixed or really good flying clamps will reduce drawback. With consistancy being the key to the production of good string jobs, reducing drawback is key. It is clear that a low-end mounting system is not as good as one of the better machines. The extra stress in all the wrong places can't be good for your frames not to mention the reduction in frame length. Some of the more flexy head frames can lose up to 1/4" on some of the lower end systems. This is a fact.. this is not an opinion. The folks at Kilppermate know.

Regards,
Steve
 
Imo, the biggest difference separating any two string jobs is provided by the human stringer and not by the stringing machine used. A good stringer can get a good string job out of a very wide range of stringing machines. A bad stringer can get likewise get a bad string job out of an equally wide range of stringing machines.

My personal opinion (its the only kind I have) is that better stringing machines help provide better consistency and in some cases more convenience (e.g. lower stringing times). The quality you achieve for a string job is primarily in the hands of the human stringer, not the machine.

Please feel free to disagree though.
 
beernutz said:
Imo, the biggest difference separating any two string jobs is provided by the human stringer and not by the stringing machine used. A good stringer can get a good string job out of a very wide range of stringing machines. A bad stringer can get likewise get a bad string job out of an equally wide range of stringing machines.

My personal opinion (its the only kind I have) is that better stringing machines help provide better consistency and in some cases more convenience (e.g. lower stringing times). The quality you achieve for a string job is primarily in the hands of the human stringer, not the machine.

Please feel free to disagree though.
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Basically agree, although I get great consistency with my Klippermate. I can replicate a string job on a particular frame time after time - one of my sticks I've strung 38 times and every time the result is the same as every other time. But as you say, all in the hands of the user.
 
I really love my Kmate. I really do. It's funny saying this, but it's one thing I own that really is solid, dependable, good, and useful.

Before I bought the Kmate, I had my racquets strung on expensive machines and cheap machines. To me, 60lbs. is 60 lbs., the major differences, from what I know, seem to be a minor time savings using a more expensive machine. The key is really just being a good stringer and doing a precise job as you go along, and the more expensive machine may make that easier.

But per the scale of things, a personal stringer really fits my bill. If I strung racquets at a club, or for many people, I'd look to a Prince Neos or something.
 
i have probably decided upon getting the SP Hip hop or the Swing :S unless i can get the klippermate somewhere soon :P because i really want to start stringing badly :P
 
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