Kneissl White Star Twin: anticipation

swizzy

Hall of Fame
my inlaws just picked one up a yard sale.. they live an hour away and are coming down next Sunday.. tempted to drive over and get it now..but, really should be patient and wait the week.. i'm sure it is not that amazing.. since it is not the most desirable of the white star releases.. anyone have anything nice to say about the twin?
 

suwanee4712

Professional
Is this the same frame that Helena Sukova and Heinz Gunthardt used? If so, I would love to hit with one of those. When Kneissel went away from it, it had a very negative effect on Sukova's game. Literally, she was never the same player again in terms of power despite some occasional good results.
 

swizzy

Hall of Fame
i did a bit of searching on this racket..and this forum is one of the few hits that comes up.. i am playing tonight and wed.. and still feel the need to drive up and get it. but if it is going to be a disappointment i will wait.. the lack of replies only confirms my feeling that this might be a lackluster stick in a rather fine lineage of rackets..
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Is this the same frame that Helena Sukova and Heinz Gunthardt used? If so, I would love to hit with one of those. When Kneissel went away from it, it had a very negative effect on Sukova's game. Literally, she was never the same player again in terms of power despite some occasional good results.
They used the White Star Master.
 

big ted

Hall of Fame
i dont think its as sought after as much as the other white stars because it has no kevlar in it. ive used it, its a pretty comfortable frame as long as you hit it in the lower half of the head from what i remember. it gets really flexible toward the tip of the racquet. i tried hitting with it again recently and it kinda feels like playing with a wood frame imo compared to the newer racquets these days...very flexible esp near the top the the racquet and pretty hefty
 

joe sch

Legend
i dont think its as sought after as much as the other white stars because it has no kevlar in it. ive used it, its a pretty comfortable frame as long as you hit it in the lower half of the head from what i remember. it gets really flexible toward the tip of the racquet. i tried hitting with it again recently and it kinda feels like playing with a wood frame imo compared to the newer racquets these days...very flexible esp near the top the the racquet and pretty hefty
Right on ... if you like the old school flex and feel but need a bigger sweet spot to play now then these kind of rackets are great. I have been saving a almost mint pair of these sticks. The specs are pretty close to below:

Kneissl White Star Mid 399/14.07/55/372
Kneissl White Star Twin 354/12.49/50/325
 

retrowagen

Hall of Fame
It was Kneissl's answer to the Rossignol F200... A 20% larger than standard mid, extrememy flexible, tailored to baseline play and with a longer grip (to make 2-handed backhands more at home). I was sponsored by Kneissl when these were current, and it was my least favorite of the White Star models... The antithesis of the WS Pro Masters, which was quite a weapon for the more advanced player.
 

swizzy

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i started playing tennis in the late 70's and have been picking up and using many fine older frames... the white stars don't pop up as readily as others.. too bad it is not a deadly weapon on the court.. still can't wait to play it. happy to have it and for $3 it is one of the least expensive 80's frames i have gotten.
 

swizzy

Hall of Fame
i am going to post some pictures of it in action..still looking forward to getting it..couple more days. i can't believe it..i was hoping some kind words for this racket.. some fond remembrances. nothing. well, not nothing..retro was sponsored by kneissl and he liked it least of white stars.. does that include the big, and the aero???
 

retrowagen

Hall of Fame
Well, try it out... Let us know what you think! Just because it was the least favourite of mine is no indication that you won't be charmed by it. ;-)
 

swizzy

Hall of Fame
while researching this frame, this forum is responsible for 90% of the information out there..and i read probably all of your posts concerning the white stars..and i have to admit you sound very credible in your opinions..
 

NLBwell

Legend
I have one somewhere still, I think. Never liked it much, much too light (for the era) and way too flexy at the tip with a small sweet spot.
Loved my Black Ace and PS85, not the Twin so much.
 

Winners or Errors

Hall of Fame
I know this is a thread from the last summer, but I got an old, Austrian, White Star Twin for Christmas. Nice gift. Not what I was expecting, as I used to play the White Star Pro Masters and was hoping for one of those, but I have really enjoyed taking it out and hitting with it.

It very much forces you to set up and take the ball out in front, and the sweet spot has a very nice feel. Yes, the tip is flexible and it doesn't feel great hitting it out there, but if you're hitting it out there you've missed the ball entirely anyway.

I hope the OP is enjoying his. I think it's a great racquet and I'm not planning to get rid of it any time soon.
 
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