KPS88 Update: NEW Sampras Frame! [Merged]

What about the beam differential? The 95 beam is a lot thicker. Of course, the 95 beam is still considered thin by modern standards, but the 85 beam is barely even there. I'm not even certain how far below 17mm you can go before the racquet becomes unplayable, but the 85 has to be fairly close to edge in terms of beam width. When I serve with the 95, I get a real thwap on the ball. The 85 seems to push the ball a little more.
 
BreakPoint said:
Actually, to me, "dead" is a very postive term for me. I absolutely love "dead" feeling racquets. I always look for that "dead" feel when I demo racquets. I won't play with a racquet unless it has that "dead" feel to it. I hate racquets that are tinny, pingy, have vibrations, feel hollow, feel plasticky, have extra power, etc., and IMO, "dead" is the opposite of all that, like a "dead tree". :)
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I dunno if you've tried it, but it sounds as if you might actually enjoy the RDS001 mid. I recently made the switch from the k90 to the RDS. Im really loving it.
 
Geoff said:
Truth be told, I think that Craig hit his heaviest ball with his Europen Hyper Pro Staff 6.0 95. I think he adjusts easily to any frame. He has hit well with a number of different frames in our hitting sessions. I hope Craig has the new K Pro Staff next week when we are hitting!
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Thanks Geoff! I LOVE those Euro HPS 6.0 95's. I've still got five of them. ;) Maybe I will restring them and see what happens! :) CC
 
Too Poor for Grass said:
Perhaps for accuracy and touch but not pace. You have to be very strong or possess near-flawless mechanics to get 100+ pace with a stock 85. I play Chinese 6.0 85s and 95s, and the 95 serves one-hop the fence, whereas the 85 serves will double- or triple-hop the fence. Big difference.
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By this you mean your ball bounces two or three times after striking the court in the service box before hitting the fence? :confused:

Best,

CC
 
SirBlend12 said:
Either you hit with a RIDICULOUS amount of spin or the 4' 11" 97 lb. girl that made 1st dubs on my Varsity team outserves you... by a lot...
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A confident diagnosis from someone who doesn't know how far away the fence is. This isn't a standard-size court. Besides, I don't get big bounces as a rule because even my first serve tends to have a relatively high amount of sidespin---not as much as a second serve, but plenty nevertheless. Ball tends to stay low, so unless I'm serving about 110, I'm not hitting this fence on one hop.
 
nalk7 said:
I dunno if you've tried it, but it sounds as if you might actually enjoy the RDS001 mid. I recently made the switch from the k90 to the RDS. Im really loving it.
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Yes, I've played with the RDS 001 Mid. In fact, I did a comparative review of it for TW when it first came out: http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/playtests/BREAKP06.html

The RDS defintitely has a nice feel to it and is a great racquet. However, I thought its predecessor, the RDX 500 Mid, was just a bit better with a flexier, more old-school feel to it. Otherwise, they are very similar.
 
BreakPoint said:
And the AG100. :)
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Unfortunately I havn't had the pleasure of hitting with the AG100, but I'm going to buy one soon as TW gets them back in stock. I've been hesitant to pull the trigger on one before because I didn't really care for the AG200, but the 100 sounds like a different kind of animal (at least I hope so).
 
Too Poor for Grass said:
That's right.
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I am asking this with respect, and it is NOT meant to be demeaning or negative, OK? :)

How old are you? At what level do you play?

I can assure you our friend Bolt (who is in his early 30's) can put the ball 6 feet up the back fence with just about any frame Samster or I put in his hand. Further, I watch a good deal of amateur tennis every week (two of my best friends are coaches at the local college) and I see plenty of 3.5's and 4.0's, as well as many senior players, hit the fence off the FIRST bounce out of the service box.

Unless you are a junior or beginner, it just seems odd to me your ball would bounce two or three times before hitting the back fence no matter the frame you are using. Is the fence an unusually long distance back from the courts where you play?? :confused:

CC
 
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Too Poor for Grass said:
A confident diagnosis from someone who doesn't know how far away the fence is. This isn't a standard-size court. Besides, I don't get big bounces as a rule because even my first serve tends to have a relatively high amount of sidespin---not as much as a second serve, but plenty nevertheless. Ball tends to stay low, so unless I'm serving about 110, I'm not hitting this fence on one hop.
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Sorry, I didn't see this post. :oops:

So just how far back IS the fence? Do you really serve 110mph without hitting it on the single bounce? 110mph is HEAT and frankly out of the reach of the vast majority of players. :neutral:

CC
 
^^^I hit a serve that hit the very bottom of the "back fence" at the stadium court of the Sony Miami. That wall is very, VERY far away, and I'm sure I didn't hit it 110.

Most courts are approximately 20-23 feet away. A 70 mph serve could reach the back fence on one bounce.

This guy is either a beginner, or the back fence on the courts he plays on are 60 feet away. In which case, he wouldn't be reaching it with a 95 either. I call B.S. on this one.

(sorry, CC. But I'm not as politically corrrect as you)


edit:: I did it with a K90 :)
 
Don't entertain that guy (TPFG)....

If he wants to fall into the stigma of how "impossible" it is to hit a decent ball with the PS85 that's his problem.
 
Too Poor for Grass said:
A confident diagnosis from someone who doesn't know how far away the fence is. This isn't a standard-size court. Besides, I don't get big bounces as a rule because even my first serve tends to have a relatively high amount of sidespin---not as much as a second serve, but plenty nevertheless. Ball tends to stay low, so unless I'm serving about 110, I'm not hitting this fence on one hop.
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sounds like people don't believe you ever played with a PS 85. They are having a hard time understanding how you could serve so differently with these two racquets. Its common knowledge (almost a fact) that the PS 85 is a great serving stick. However, you are in a very small minority that cannot hit the PS 85, yet hit a good serve with another racquet. Does it matter? No, but you can see by the posts you have gotten people don't believe you.
 
Craig A. Clark said:
I am asking this with respect, and it is NOT meant to be demeaning or negative, OK? :)

How old are you? At what level do you play?

I can assure you our friend Bolt (who is in his early 30's) can put the ball 6 feet up the back fence with just about any frame Samster or I put in his hand. Further, I watch a good deal of amateur tennis every week (two of my best friends are coaches at the local college) and I see plenty of 3.5's and 4.0's, as well as many senior players, hit the fence off the FIRST bounce out of the service box.

Unless you are a junior or beginner, it just seems odd to me your ball would bounce two or three times before hitting the back fence no matter the frame you are using. Is the fence an unusually long distance back from the courts where you play?? :confused:

CC
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He has to be a 12 year old kid to show you any kind of dis-respect. Its obvious he is full of BS.
 
Slow serves can hit the back of the fence. I have seen juniors hit such serves, giving them a bit of air, and they make it to the back fence (though granted it is not the tour-sized distance to the fence). But the serves are not what you would consider as fast.
 
drakulie said:
^^^I hit a serve that hit the very bottom of the "back fence" at the stadium court of the Sony Miami. That wall is very, VERY far away, and I'm sure I didn't hit it 110.

Most courts are approximately 20-23 feet away. A 70 mph serve could reach the back fence on one bounce.

This guy is either a beginner, or the back fence on the courts he plays on are 60 feet away. In which case, he wouldn't be reaching it with a 95 either. I call B.S. on this one.

(sorry, CC. But I'm not as politically corrrect as you)

edit:: I did it with a K90 :)
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Agreed. I can't be as nice as CC either. This kid thinks we are stupid.
 
sureshs said:
Slow serves can hit the back of the fence. I have seen juniors hit such serves, giving them a bit of air, and they make it to the back fence (though granted it is not the tour-sized distance to the fence). But the serves are not what you would consider as fast.
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Agreed. All my kick serves hit the back fence, often well outside the lateral boundary of the court (which means they've travelled an even further distance). CC
 
Craig A. Clark said:
I can assure you our friend Bolt (who is in his early 30's) can put the ball 6 feet up the back fence with just about any frame Samster or I put in his hand.
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True, but my ability to serve is like the tennis equivalent of golf's long drive competition; I've got little else in my skillset. You, however, are just flat out good. At everything. ;)
 
Bolt said:
True, but my ability to serve is like the tennis equivalent of golf's long drive competition; I've got little else in my skillset. You, however, are just flat out good. At everything. ;)
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Thanks for the kind words. I am blushing. :oops:

As for our fellow TTW'ers, Bolt is being VERY modest. Ask Samster about Bolt's topspin forehand, overhead, or agility at net. :)

CC
 
drakulie said:
^^^I hit a serve that hit the very bottom of the "back fence" at the stadium court of the Sony Miami. That wall is very, VERY far away, and I'm sure I didn't hit it 110.

Most courts are approximately 20-23 feet away. A 70 mph serve could reach the back fence on one bounce.

This guy is either a beginner, or the back fence on the courts he plays on are 60 feet away. In which case, he wouldn't be reaching it with a 95 either. I call B.S. on this one.

(sorry, CC. But I'm not as politically corrrect as you)


edit:: I did it with a K90 :)
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I demo'd a ROK on that same court and hit the back wall with my first serves even in windy conditions. CC
 
Heard from the wilson rep in my area a few facts:
*New samp frame is for real
*88head
*modeled after weight/balance of the old 6.0 85
*he will have sample frames available for me to play-test mid-december
 
Craig A. Clark said:
Agreed. All my kick serves hit the back fence, often well outside the lateral boundary of the court (which means they've travelled an even further distance). CC
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I am not even talking about tall adults with kick serves. I have seen small junior girls hit the fence with very little spin. It seems to be how much flight they put on the ball, making it bounce just inside the service line, with a little spin to add height after bounce. But when I receive those serves, they seem to have nothing on them. Makes me very jealous.
 
sureshs said:
I am not even talking about tall adults with kick serves. I have seen small junior girls hit the fence with very little spin. It seems to be how much flight they put on the ball, making it bounce just inside the service line, with a little spin to add height after bounce. But when I receive those serves, they seem to have nothing on them. Makes me very jealous.
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Butting in here lol. My kickk serves suck ass I can't get them to bounce much higher than my flat serves. My flat serves though are pretty decent if i do say so myself :)
 
Craig A. Clark said:
I demo'd a ROK on that same court and hit the back wall with my first serves even in windy conditions. CC
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The day we played at the stadium, there was a very bad swirling wind, so I know exactly what you are talking about. I wonder how far that back wall is?? 40 feet perhaps?????
 
drakulie said:
The day we played at the stadium, there was a very bad swirling wind, so I know exactly what you are talking about. I wonder how far that back wall is?? 40 feet perhaps?????
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Same here Drak. The pro I was hitting with told me it 'more or less always swirls like that'. ;)

The court is VERY large. The largest I've ever personally played. I'd say it's at least 40 feet, maybe more.

Best,

CC
 
[Questions]Sorry to post this question in two threads, but are there any particular advantages to braided rackets? Which players' rackets are braided these days, and which were braided previously? I've seen reference that the n 6.1 Tour was braided, and that some of the Pro Staff 6.0 rackets were. I take it the K 6.1 Tour isn't, and the upcoming K Pro Staff won't be? Was the Pro Staff 6.1 braided? How about the Prince Graphite - was/is it braided? And the Dunlop AG100? And the old/current rackets of the many other manufacturers not mentioned?[/End of questions]
 
cant wait until fed's new racket :D
oh yeah
& are these really going to be limited? cause i really gotta start saving up then...
haha
 
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Wilson certain has gone down in customer service. I called again and it was voice mail again. I left a message that I have not received a call back when I called on Tuesday! And told it was regarding the "new KProstaff" and was interested in purchasing 6 of them! Left my name and phone number!

Wilson 15 years ago; would have return my phone call the day after it was made! I don't think there will be a call back! I not sure why they have voice mail; if that is the way they handle the customer service function! I even email them after my first call; just to make sure they got it twice. No reply or answer from my email either!

Nice way to treat the customer!
 
Harry_Wild said:
Wilson certain has gone down in customer service. I called again and it was voice mail again. I left a message that I have not received a call back when I called on Tuesday! And told it was regarding the "new KProstaff" and was interested in purchasing 6 of them! Left my name and phone number!

Wilson 15 years ago; would have return my phone call the day after it was made! I don't think there will be a call back! I not sure why they have voice mail; if that is the way they handle the customer service function! I even email them after my first call; just to make sure they got it twice. No reply or answer from my email either!

Nice way to treat the customer!
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I guess they don't care?
 
Here are the specs on the racquet directly from the book im looking at right now...


[K] Pro Staff 88
Swing Index: 6/fast and long
Power: Low
Headsize: 88"
Strung Weight: 12.9 oz.
Weight Unstrung: 12.3 ounces
Strung balance: 6pts headlight
String Pattern: 16x19
Cross Section: 17 mm flat beam

quote on the side of the pic
"Designed and developed for the 14-time grand slam champion, Pete Sampras, the new [k] Pro Staff 88 offers a new level of precise [k]ontrol. The slightly larger 88 square inch headsize and the integration of [k]arophite black brings new life to the legendary Pro Staff classic racket.


there you have it folks...

AND if you ask really nicely I will tell you about a completely new players racquet wilson will also be releasing... the [K]obra and [k]obra team FX

thats all for now
 
BergTennis03 said:
Here are the specs on the racquet directly from the book im looking at right now...


[K] Pro Staff 88
Swing Index: 6/fast and long
Power: Low
Headsize: 88"
Strung Weight: 12.9 oz.
Weight Unstrung: 12.3 ounces
Strung balance: 6pts headlight
String Pattern: 16x19
Cross Section: 17 mm flat beam

quote on the side of the pic
"Designed and developed for the 14-time grand slam champion, Pete Sampras, the new [k] Pro Staff 88 offers a new level of precise [k]ontrol. The slightly larger 88 square inch headsize and the integration of [k]arophite black brings new life to the legendary Pro Staff classic racket.


there you have it folks...

AND if you ask really nicely I will tell you about a completely new players racquet wilson will also be releasing... the [K]obra and [k]obra team FX

thats all for now
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OK - first of all I'm asking nicely for info on the [K]obra :) please...

Also - what's the 'book' you're looking at?
 
i dont feel like signing up for a website to post.. if someone sends me their e-mail ill send some pics of the pages i photocopied. they are in black and white though and not much else. i will say the sampras is identical looking to the pics that have been posted on it.
 
BergTennis03 said:
Here are the specs on the racquet directly from the book im looking at right now...


[K] Pro Staff 88
Swing Index: 6/fast and long
Power: Low
Headsize: 88"
Strung Weight: 12.9 oz.
Weight Unstrung: 12.3 ounces
Strung balance: 6pts headlight
String Pattern: 16x19
Cross Section: 17 mm flat beam

quote on the side of the pic
"Designed and developed for the 14-time grand slam champion, Pete Sampras, the new [k] Pro Staff 88 offers a new level of precise [k]ontrol. The slightly larger 88 square inch headsize and the integration of [k]arophite black brings new life to the legendary Pro Staff classic racket.


there you have it folks...

AND if you ask really nicely I will tell you about a completely new players racquet wilson will also be releasing... the [K]obra and [k]obra team FX

thats all for now
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Much thanks. It is greatly appreciaed. Were you given an estimated time of release. cheers
 
it's a new re-vamp of wilson image... new year / new image... their new clothing line is sweet, their shoes look cool (even though they feel cheap) and the new racquets and bags are some of the best ive seen
 
Is there a bag that mimics the style of the Sampras frame at all? In other words, something with less red on it? More classic looking?
 
dude the new bag i saw was RAW. no more shiny BS on it. The red tour bag is a little darker red (think chicago bulls red) and all the white and silver on the pro tour bags is straight black.

you also get two new side zipper pockets (one on each side) big enough for a few sets of string, keys, wallet, watch, etc. Also, the smallest pocket on the current bags has an added velcro pocket for ipod and such. There is also a thermo guard waterbottle holder at the bottom of the bag which I thought was cool... AND it is biodegradable

Wilson going green

it is a very updated retro looking bag. The nicest I have ever seen by Wilson
 
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