KSixOne TOUR vs. NCode TOUR 90

tennis_bob

New User
KSixOne TOUR vs. NCode TOUR 90

I also had a chance to play wit the K Tour 90. My current racquet is Ncode Tour 90.
The only thing I did like about the K was that buttery feel. Even though the racquet has same specs as the Ncode, it swings much heavier and slower. Remember that with a string and thin overgrip, the weight goes at least to 12.7 oz or higher. The K Tour has shorter handle and longer throat, this adds to bulkiness – the frame is thick and flat as it is (not aerodynamic), therefore much more challenging to maneuver.

I found that the Ncode Tour 90 has better spin and is easier to swing. I could not play effectively with a slower to swing racquet, especially on hard courts. I believe that people will find this out after the initial hype is gone.

If you plan to play with the K Tour, join a gym and start lifting. This is one of the slowest and most difficult racquets to move on every stroke.

One may be able to play it well on a good day, but not one very day - if you don't play competitively.
 
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j0hnd0e

New User
Thanks for the input. Always good to hear the other side of the story since it seems that almost everyone so far has been only praising the ksixone and i think its more due to what you mentioned, hype. But truly only time will tell.
 
Yeah, manyof us, n90 users, don't appreciate to hear how our beloved frame is being trashed that bad by a horrible paintjob. ! ;). (I wonder what Nike will come out on Roger to match those colours, well... it is reallythe desing).
Although being contrary to other reviews, yours sound logical too. Could you tell us something about your type of game and skill level to add information?.
Thanks for the input.
 
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@wright

Hall of Fame
I also noticed that the k was harder to swing, but my k demo was a larger grip size than I use, so that was my explanation for why it swings slower. I definitely think the ncode feels "whippier", but I haven't trashed the ncode. I hit great groundies with the ncode, I just like the old school feel of the k factor, which makes it better(IMO) for "feel" tennis. When I get the proper grip size in the k factor with an overgrip, I'll see how it really swings, but I'm assuming it will only help me like it more. As for the paintjob, it just may grow on you! I thought the first pictures I saw were Darth Maul, but when I saw the racquet in person, I couldn't help but like it. I do have to ask though, how does the longer throat and shorter grip add to the "bulkiness"?
 

SFrazeur

Legend
I know you would think that the longer pallet and grip would add bulkiness on the n90, Tour 90. I do think that the lager grip size would be adding to the slowness. Supposedly the grip sizes are larger than before. Which, would mean I would need to order mine in 4-1/4 yikes!
 
I also noticed that the k was harder to swing, but my k demo was a larger grip size than I use, so that was my explanation for why it swings slower. I definitely think the ncode feels "whippier", but I haven't trashed the ncode. I hit great groundies with the ncode, I just like the old school feel of the k factor, which makes it better(IMO) for "feel" tennis. When I get the proper grip size in the k factor with an overgrip, I'll see how it really swings, but I'm assuming it will only help me like it more. As for the paintjob, it just may grow on you! I thought the first pictures I saw were Darth Maul, but when I saw the racquet in person, I couldn't help but like it. I do have to ask though, how does the longer throat and shorter grip add to the "bulkiness"?

Sorry, I'm not a native english speaker, and maybe "trashed" is stronger than I thougth ;).
I'd just like to point that for many of us, maybe the majority of n90 users, the fact that the n90 is indeed and feels different to the ps85 is a good thing, based on the number of ncodes sold and the average age of buyers.
I bet most of them never played with the ps85, so making the ktour more similar to that old frame isn't necessarily a step in the rigth direction for wilson.
Anyway, I understand many hardcore 85's lovers will be delighted, and in the end, only time will tell.
Happy 2007 for all.
 
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BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
KSixOne TOUR vs. NCode TOUR 90

I also had a chance to play wit the K Tour 90. My current racquet is Ncode Tour 90.
The only thing I did like about the K was that buttery feel. Even though the racquet has same specs as the Ncode, it swings much heavier and slower. Remember that with a string and thin overgrip, the weight goes at least to 12.7 oz or higher. The K Tour has shorter handle and longer throat, this adds to bulkiness – the frame is thick and flat as it is (not aerodynamic), therefore much more challenging to maneuver.

I found that the Ncode Tour 90 has better spin and is easier to swing. I could not play effectively with a slower to swing racquet, especially on hard courts. I believe that people will find this out after the initial hype is gone.

If you plan to play with the K Tour, join a gym and start lifting. This is one of the slowest and most difficult racquets to move on every stroke.

One may be able to play it well on a good day, but not one very day - if you don't play competitively.
I believe you are the first to claim that the K90 is less manueverable and harder to swing than the nCode 90. I think just about everyone who has tried it up until now have reported that the K90 is easier to swing and much more maneuverable than the nCode 90, and that it moves much more like the PS 6.0 85, which people have universally agreed is easier to swing than the nCode 90.
 

alan-n

Professional
This is Wilson quality control we are discussing here when it comes to swing weight. I used to own about 3 PS Tour 90's and 3 NCode Tour 90's, each of them had a slightly different overall weight anywhere from 337-443 unstrung. Some being more HL than other meaning swing weight varied.

Wilson's quality control tolerance is not tight enough to really make a definitely statement as to whether the NCode or KFactor is going to be more or less heavy in swing weight... You may just have to ask for an exact weight / balance measurement if you can and get the one you want.
 
I believe you are the first to claim that the K90 is less manueverable and harder to swing than the nCode 90. I think just about everyone who has tried it up until now have reported that the K90 is easier to swing and much more maneuverable than the nCode 90, and that it moves much more like the PS 6.0 85, which people have universally agreed is easier to swing than the nCode 90.
I have to disagree
I believe the N90 is very easy to swing, when i compare it to my ps85 and tour90.
The k90 has a more classic feel like the ps85 so i guess for me its also harder to swing.
 
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waterman

Guest
I play the NCode Tour 90 and I´m really happy with it.
But I only have one, so I´m planning to get a second raquet, too.
Do you think, the NCode Tour 90 und the KSixOne TOUR are too different, so it would be better for me to get a second NCode than having one NCode and one KSixOne TOUR?
 
I believe you are the first to claim that the K90 is less manueverable and harder to swing than the nCode 90. I think just about everyone who has tried it up until now have reported that the K90 is easier to swing and much more maneuverable than the nCode 90, and that it moves much more like the PS 6.0 85, which people have universally agreed is easier to swing than the nCode 90.
I guess we should take with a grain of salt people who have never posted reviews in the past never mind they only post in the wanted and for sale sections only. Besides our bob is selling his ncode http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=110645
looks like he will be hitting the gym very soon before Jan 20th comes, or the 22nd, the K90 could be a birthday gift for himself :)
 
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BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
I guess we should take with a grain of salt people who have never posted reviews in the past never mind they only post in the wanted and for sale sections only. Besides our bob is selling his ncode http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=110645
looks like he will be hitting the gym very soon before Jan 20th comes, or the 22nd, the K90 could be a birthday gift for himself :)
Ha ha ha, LOL. Yeah, I guess it's possible that tennis_bob never even played with the K90 and made up the negative review in order to get more people interested in buying his nCode 90 and to increase its market value. Even if he did play with the K90, he must have liked it so much that he thought by slamming it and praising the nCode 90 he could fool someone into taking his nCode 90 off of his hands so that he can buy the K90 as soon as it comes out.

Nice find, Michael! I guess the "truth" has now been revealed. :D
 

SFrazeur

Legend
Nice find indeed, shows you should not trust a new user with 3 posts, or however many he had at the time he posted the review. I had already discounted his review when I read this:

The K Tour has shorter handle and longer throat, this adds to bulkiness
It just doesn't fly.
 

bee

Semi-Pro
Wow. What a story.

I wonder if the house ethics committe should get involved. Uh, the warehouse eithics committee?
 

AlpineCadet

Hall of Fame
Nice find indeed, shows you should not trust a new user with 3 posts, or however many he had at the time he posted the review. I had already discounted his review when I read this:

It just doesn't fly.
:confused: Have any of you who've commented about the k90 have even tried the k90 yet? :confused:

You know what doesn't fly, SFrazeur? Talking about things you know nothing about. Just like Breakpoint, please don't make a further ass of yourself. Go follow the bandwagon to failure elsewhere.


BTW, the assistant manager of The Rac.ket Doc.tor has the k95 (which I saw in person) and he says both the k95/k90 swing slower than the ncode 95/90. (He is sponsored by Wilson, and has been using the ncode 95 since they first arrived.)

And also, how would a limited amount of posts, or any amount for that matter, negate anything a person says?
 

AlpineCadet

Hall of Fame
:rolleyes:
Nice find indeed, shows you should not trust a new user with 3 posts, or however many he had at the time he posted the review. I had already discounted his review when I read this:
The K Tour has shorter handle and longer throat, this adds to bulkiness
It just doesn't fly.
:shock: Just because you disagree with one of his opinions, whether it's in fact right or wrong, doesn't mean everything he says is wrong.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
:confused: Have any of you who've commented about the k90 have even tried the k90 yet? :confused:

You know what doesn't fly, SFrazeur? Talking about things you know nothing about. Just like Breakpoint, please don't make a further ass of yourself. Go follow the bandwagon to failure elsewhere.


BTW, the assistant manager of The Rac.ket Doc.tor has the k95 (which I saw in person) and he says both the k95/k90 swing slower than the ncode 95/90. (He is sponsored by Wilson, and has been using the ncode 95 since they first arrived.)

And also, how would a limited amount of posts, or any amount for that matter, negate anything a person says?
OK, wise guy. Then you explain to us why tennis_bob is selling his nCode 90 at the same time that he's praising it. Could it be that the hype for the K90 is decreasing the market value of something he's trying to sell so he figured he'd better try and reverse that somehow? Notice how quiet he's been since he was found out?

All you seem to do is try and cause trouble around here without ever adding any value to any discussions whatsoever. I'm very surprised that you haven't been permanently banned yet.

BTW, neither SFrazeur nor I have ever claimed to compare the K90 to the nCode based upon personal experience hitting with both frames side-by-side. You seem to be the only one who's confused about that. I go by the words of CC and others who play similar games as myself and have had similar racquet histories. From my over 30 years of tennis playing experience, that's usually a pretty good guideline.
 

AlpineCadet

Hall of Fame
OK, wise guy. Then you explain to us why tennis_bob is selling his nCode 90 at the same time that he's praising it. Could it be that the hype for the K90 is decreasing the market value of something he's trying to sell so he figured he'd better try and reverse that somehow? Notice how quiet he's been since he was found out?

All you seem to do is try and cause trouble around here without ever adding any value to any discussions whatsoever. I'm very surprised that you haven't been permanently banned yet.

BTW, neither SFrazeur nor I have ever claimed to compare the K90 to the nCode based upon personal experience hitting with both frames side-by-side. You seem to be the only one who's confused about that. I go by the words of CC and others who play similar games as myself and have had similar racquet histories. From my over 30 years of tennis playing experience, that's usually a pretty good guideline.
Everything you've mentioned is totally irrelevant to what I've been talking about. The fact remains, if you DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, THEN DON'T LAY CLAIMS OF FACTS YOU KNOW NOTHING OF.

Banned? You should be the first on that list with your lies, deceit, and manipulation all over the boards. Want proof? I can quote you, and I've even got other (important) forum members who speak out against you.
 
BTW, the assistant manager of The Rac.ket Doc.tor has the k95 (which I saw in person) and he says both the k95/k90 swing slower than the ncode 95/90. (He is sponsored by Wilson, and has been using the ncode 95 since they first arrived.)
we are talking about the K90 not the k95. I have no clue about the 95. when matched with same gripsize and setup the K90 is easier to swing than the ncode90. There are many people whom have tried both 90's and when you usually agree %99 with everything they have said in the past you tend to take their word more so than a person whom have said nothing so far in the racquet section.

And also, how would a limited amount of posts, or any amount for that matter, negate anything a person says?
if you look at the limited # of bobs posts you can see that all of them are in the wanted and for sale section. No one knows bobs veiws on anything but wanting something or selling something or prasing a seller.

When you vote for a person who serves in the Gov, you most likely vote on his record on all the issues he has voted for or against in the past. This is how you develop trust that this person in office MIGHT best represent you. Believe it or not there are certain people on this board whom we take thier words as gold when it comes to certain gear based upon what they have been talking about over the years (7 years for that matter for us) A person with no history and no record who pops ups with a "shady" first post in the racquet section by praising a stick he is selling and bashing a new competing replacement stick that is coming out in few weeks is not what I call a post with high integrity.

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Anybody can express his/her opinion regarding tennis in this forum. This is the www, not the goverment. If you dont agree, just ignore it or argue in a constructive way, but accusations of conspiracy just because he sells a n90 and didnt like the K, sounds ridiculous.
No wonder why he doesnt want to post again here.
 
Everything you've mentioned is totally irrelevant to what I've been talking about. The fact remains, if you DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, THEN DON'T LAY CLAIMS OF FACTS YOU KNOW NOTHING OF.

Banned? You should be the first on that list with your lies, deceit, and manipulation all over the boards. Want proof? I can quote you, and I've even got other (important) forum members who speak out against you.
i agree with you.

btw breakpoint, you know that thread in the tips/instruction section that duzza made about us wanting to see vids of people like you, drakulie, etc., all the 'big shots'...
We are still waiting for YOUR video. What do you have to say?
 
Some of us have been here long enough to recognize certain behavioral patterns when we see them especially in the for sale/wanted and reference sections. "Outting" people is sometimes so............... inconvenient........ I think some of you are jumping on this because you have/had a beef with BP. I had my share of disagreeing with BP as well. I am not here defending BP, he can do that pretty well himself, nor am I infatuated with the K90 which I will not use by the way, but when I see something not "kosher" I will point it out.

anyway...

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=109559

If you really want to know how to do a playtest I am sure you have read this thread.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=109496


This is unbelievable! . Craig wrote the best ever and more accurate review of the ncode tour 90, far better than the TW's review, so if I had to choose someone's opinion about the Ks, I would choose his. We are anxiously waiting!:-D
which review is better, mine or CC? ;-)

or you can check out the indepedant comparative playtest reviews.

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/playtests/

You know there is a reason why TW choses certain playtesters to do their reviews for them and post them on their website.:) an unknown person with no reference is not one of them.
 
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or for example, I would not consider your postes on buying racquets when...


I bought the ncode six-one tour 90 after reading the passionate review that started this thread. I think I'm only a 4.0 intermediate player, but I have the better looking strokes in my club ;) , I'm just a little lazy with my footwork.
The thing is, everybody here thinks I'm crazy for using this heavy stick with this small head.
All I can say is that this racquet makes me happy, and when you feel happy with your stick, you'll do whatever you have to do to compensate any disadvantage you might experience. Hell, I even run on court!!
After playing with all the models available in my country, I have found power, control, plow through factor, spin, touch and joy with this baby.
Thanks a lot Craig!.

or this is how silly you sound when you have not tried the K90

What puzzles me is... what are they going to change?. I mean, it can't be more powerful because it'll be a twenner. It can't be more stable 'cause it is allready one of the most stable frames in the market. It can't be heavier for the same reason. Maybe they could improve the feeling, but I doubt it.
then

I have played with both for two years and finally I realized that the 90, while feels a lot better, is too demanding. Almost to an unreasonable degree if u are not a pro.
Maybe is just me, but I would advise not to fall for her. She's a man eater!!.
 
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Yeah!. You definitely should try the ncode 90, but be a little patient with her ;) . That "unnatural weight distribution" that some 85 users talk about becomes natural in a week, and then you feel power in control.
the k90 has a very natual weight distribution more so than the ncode90


I play with the 95 16x18 now, after a year of struggling with the nc90. The 90 does feel great for serves and 1hbhs, but i got tired of losing against less skilled players with oversize frames. And believe me, it was the racquet not helping more that anything:cool: .
then

I switched from the 95 16x18 to the ncode tour 90 a couple of weeks ago, stepping over my own "rules", and I must confess I'm very happy.
so now after all the flip flops, the 90 which is very close to the 85 which you hate is good on clay and you are beating your friends. Allow me to tell you that you dont know what you want.
maybe you should just get a Pure Drive ;-), it plays well on clay out of the box or if you really want to play well on clay in paraguay just get the best stick on the plant PT630 and string it with 18g at low tension with a smaller grip than your usual.
 
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Everybody is talking about the k90, but I really doubt the n90 could be forgotten easyly.
dont worry it will not, just dont be upset that your beloved ncode90 is now obsolete;-) just kiddin

finally

I think He meant "unbiased/unhyped";) . Anyway, great review MC. Why does the k90 swings easier in your opinion?
thank you, sorry if I did not answer your question. The K90 balances at 31.5cmm more HL while the ncode90 is 32cm yet they have equal weight. Also because ofweight distribution, there is more foam on the ncode90 at the top of the handle plus few inches of extra leather, yet it is still more head heavy than the K90, why is that?
 
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BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Everything you've mentioned is totally irrelevant to what I've been talking about. The fact remains, if you DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, THEN DON'T LAY CLAIMS OF FACTS YOU KNOW NOTHING OF.
I'd say "irrelevance" is your middle name. :rolleyes:

And I know a h*ll of a lot more about tennis and racquets than you do. That much is clear. When was the last time TW posted one of your reviews (have you even done any?) on its website? You didn't even know about nor try the PS Tour 90 until a couple of years after it was discontinued. What's that about? :confused:
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
i agree with you.

btw breakpoint, you know that thread in the tips/instruction section that duzza made about us wanting to see vids of people like you, drakulie, etc., all the 'big shots'...
We are still waiting for YOUR video. What do you have to say?
Um....maybe I don't have a video camera? :rolleyes: Maybe I prefer to remain anynomous?

The people from this board that I have met in person have ALL told me directly that they thought I was one of the best, most intelligent, most informative, most helpful, and most logical members of this board and that they enjoy reading my posts. What have people told you about yourself?

BTW, I haven't seen a video of you either, but I don't assume anything about your tennis skills, do I? :rolleyes:
 
Although being contrary to other reviews, yours sound logical too. Could you tell us something about your type of game and skill level to add information?.
Thanks for the input.
there is nothing logical in bobs post, as mentioned above especially when he says
tennis_bob said:
"The K Tour has shorter handle and longer throat, this adds to bulkiness – the frame is thick and flat as it is (not aerodynamic), therefore much more challenging to maneuver. I found that the Ncode Tour 90 has better spin and is easier to swing.
even you wanted to know about his game, which you could have just did a simple search to see if he is true to what he is saying, but you only can find his posts on selling/wanting something for a long time now. It is his style and he wants to keep it that way.
 
Um....maybe I don't have a video camera? :rolleyes: Maybe I prefer to remain anynomous?

The people from this board that I have met in person have ALL told me directly that they thought I was one of the best, most intelligent, most informative, most helpful, and most logical members of this board and that they enjoy reading my posts. What have people told you about yourself?

BTW, I haven't seen a video of you either, but I don't assume anything about your tennis skills, do I? :rolleyes:
im not assuming anything either, i just want to see the 'master in work'. like drakulie says, if you talk big, you have to show it. lol. but i wont be prejudice against you, its just that i wont have much respect for you as someone who gives great advice until i see how good you are when you actually play. thats all.

but i do like some things that you stand up for sometimes, lol

edit: thanks for answering the question
 
If I may and I mean do disrespect

ive been playing since i was 14, so a year and a half. I have ambitions to become a pro (i've been told by coaches i have the talent), but i obviously have a late start, so im just going for it, see what happends.. I did take lessons when i was 6 for a month, then played maybe 4 or 5 times for the next 8 years.

so ya, i guess many people may belive im not good enough for a 90 in frame (who knows, maybe im not), but ive tried an rds 001 mp, redondo mp, a couple of OS head frames, and then one that suits my game the most so far is the ps tour 90. i actually found it randomly at my club in a bin of unwanted/broken racket, some bigger adult had left it a couple of years back, it had scratches and the bumper was broken and stuff. i got it fixed, and since then its been like a diamond in the rough for me, lol. only problem is its a 4 5/8 grip, and way too big for me. im 5'5, but i find 1/4 too small, and 3/8 so-so, so i might go for 1/2. i just want an upgrade of the pro staff, hopefully more stable, because i dont want to keep using something thats discontinued, amongst other reasons.
I dont know what to say, other than good luck. you are about the only 15 year old (who just only been playing for 1 and 1/2 years and want to turn pro) who plays with a 4X4 beast PStour90 let alone in 5/8, ouch!!!!!!!! (you should be playing with a 3/8 IMO) you probably have it strung with POLY ouch!!!!!!!! Just dont burn out and hurt yourself thats all, have fun and enjoy the ride. Dont give up on school.

You have other more improtant things to do than wanting to watch BP hit a ball. My advice, try the K90 in 3/8 with 17g wilson reaction at mid-low tension and go from there. I have not tried the K90 with another string so far but keep us updated on your progress
 
You shouldn't say that. How good he is shouldn't really matters if he gives great advice. JMHO
correct, Agassi takes advice from RNPK, I doubt Roman is a model for clean strokes. You dont need to be a Pro Player to know about racquet/gear dynamics. Some 4.5 MRT's know alot more than pro players regarding string/setup selection and customization.
 
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the k90 has a very natual weight distribution more so than the ncode90




then



so now after all the flip flops, the 90 which is very close to the 85 which you hate is good on clay and you are beating your friends. Allow me to tell you that you dont know what you want.
maybe you should just get a Pure Drive ;-), it plays well on clay out of the box or if you really want to play well on clay in paraguay just get the best stick on the plant PT630 and string it with 18g at low tension with a smaller grip than your usual.

Yes I'm guilty of not knowing what I want. Like many of the more prolific posters in this section of the board, I like experimenting with different frames, and I have a love/hate relationship with the n90. I couldn't care less if you or someone else don't trust my judgement.
What amuses me, is that this Bob only comitted the crime to desagree with previous reviews, so all the "bhramans" are jumping on him :(.
Had he praised the K, this thread would be a lot shorter.

One can do many others assumptions about why Bob is selling a frame. Maybe he needs the money, maybe he has too many n90s, or maybe he just found a frme he likes better that k and n90. Just let him, or anybody else express his mind.
 
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If I may and I mean do disrespect



I dont know what to say, other than good luck. you are about the only 15 year old (who just only been playing for 1 and 1/2 years and want to turn pro) who plays with a 4X4 beast PStour90 let alone in 5/8, ouch!!!!!!!! (you should be playing with a 3/8 IMO) you probably have it strung with POLY ouch!!!!!!!! Just dont burn out and hurt yourself thats all, have fun and enjoy the ride. Dont give up on school.

You have other more improtant things to do than wanting to watch BP hit a ball. My advice, try the K90 in 3/8 with 17g wilson reaction at mid-low tension and go from there. I have not tried the K90 with another string so far but keep us updated on your progress
umm, gee, thanks.... and thanks for digging up that quote from a completely different topic from a completely different thread, whatever your reasons were for that. but i can tell you that im using a pk redondo mp that indeed is strung with a poly.

but yes the ps tour 90 with a 5/8 grip is too big ;) however, i might give the k90 a try if i ever get access to one, but for now i'll focus on my game.

thanks for the good wishes :)

btw oddly enough, the next stringjob i was going to try on the ps was full poly, cyberflash... lol
 
You shouldn't say that. How good he is shouldn't really matters if he gives great advice. JMHO
mabye you're right, maybe not. but i want to see videos to see how good some people are, sometimes they seem to be good when you talk to them, but when you see them play, they arent, thats all.

like, what drakulie did, getting videos and everything, was really good. even if he tries too hard to prove himself, at least he did show us how good/bad he his, depending on what you think.

i would just like to see breakpoint hitting sometime, thats all. maybe i was over offensive, and for that, i apologize to you breakpoint.
 

AlpineCadet

Hall of Fame
we are talking about the K90 not the k95. I have no clue about the 95. when matched with same gripsize and setup the K90 is easier to swing than the ncode90. There are many people whom have tried both 90's and when you usually agree %99 with everything they have said in the past you tend to take their word more so than a person whom have said nothing so far in the racquet section.

if you look at the limited # of bobs posts you can see that all of them are in the wanted and for sale section. No one knows bobs veiws on anything but wanting something or selling something or prasing a seller.

When you vote for a person who serves in the Gov, you most likely vote on his record on all the issues he has voted for or against in the past. This is how you develop trust that this person in office MIGHT best represent you. Believe it or not there are certain people on this board whom we take thier words as gold when it comes to certain gear based upon what they have been talking about over the years (7 years for that matter for us) A person with no history and no record who pops ups with a "shady" first post in the racquet section by praising a stick he is selling and bashing a new competing replacement stick that is coming out in few weeks is not what I call a post with high integrity.

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Like I've said before, before making assumptions, just wait until you've tried the k90 for yourself. Until then, everything you say is pointless.
 

SFrazeur

Legend
Nice find indeed, shows you should not trust a new user with 3 posts, or however many he had at the time he posted the review. I had already discounted his review when I read this:
The K Tour has shorter handle and longer throat, this adds to bulkiness
It just doesn't fly.
The (K)90 has a longer neck, a good inch of the pallet is gone now along with the covering grip.
It does not make sense that the removal of this material would add bulkiness, seeing as the neck is now more slim. It does not make logical sense that this would add a feeling of bulkiness. I am not stating that the bulky feeling does not exist, but how could the removal of material be the cause? That is, what does not fly. I do not need to have played with the racquet to come to this.

:confused: Have any of you who've commented about the k90 have even tried the k90 yet? :confused:

You know what doesn't fly, SFrazeur? Talking about things you know nothing about. Just like Breakpoint, please don't make a further ass of yourself. Go follow the bandwagon to failure elsewhere.
First of all I have made an ass of myself here at TT, but not lately and certainly not in here.
"Go follow the bandwagon to failure elsewhere" What is that suppose to mean in the context of the discussion?

BTW, the assistant manager of The Rac.ket Doc.tor has the k95 (which I saw in person) and he says both the k95/k90 swing slower than the ncode 95/90. (He is sponsored by Wilson, and has been using the ncode 95 since they first arrived.)
You are more than welcome to point out where and when I made any statement or implications on the ease or difficulty of swinging new (K)6.1's.

And also, how would a limited amount of posts, or any amount for that matter, negate anything a person says?
Actually I was wrong about his count, I went by the counter under the user name. I checked his profile and found that he has made nearly 80 posts, almost all of them in the Wanted/For-sale/For-trade sections.

Quite simply, the more posts a user has over an amount of time, more
involvement the user has in community, which lessens the chance that they are saying things for such reasons as sales.

:rolleyes:
:shock: Just because you disagree with one of his opinions, whether it's in fact right or wrong, doesn't mean everything he says is wrong.
When there is a break down in logic, I can discount a person's statement.
 
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Some of us have been here long enough to recognize certain behavioral patterns when we see them especially in the for sale/wanted and reference sections. "Outting" people is sometimes so............... inconvenient........ I think some of you are jumping on this because you have/had a beef with BP. I had my share of disagreeing with BP as well. I am not here defending BP, he can do that pretty well himself, nor am I infatuated with the K90 which I will not use by the way, but when I see something not "kosher" I will point it out.

anyway...

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=109559

If you really want to know how to do a playtest I am sure you have read this thread.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=109496




which review is better, mine or CC? ;-)

I thought they were both quite good! ;)

CC
 
I couldn't care less if you or someone else don't trust my judgement.
What amuses me, is that this Bob only comitted the crime to desagree with previous reviews, so all the "bhramans" are jumping on him :(Had he praised the K, this thread would be a lot shorter. One can do many others assumptions about why Bob is selling a frame. Maybe he needs the money, maybe he has too many n90s, or maybe he just found a frme he likes better that k and n90. Just let him, or anybody else express his mind.
whatever you say amigo........

Next time you go to your English class in Paraguay, tell them that you tried to learn an English proverb here on TW but failed and preferred to be a libertarian.

"If it quacks like a duck, walks and swims like a duck, looks like a duck, then it is a duck"

feliz año nuevo!!!!!!
 
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I prefer: "Don't feed me crap and call it ice cream."
Good one SF, lets wait for our latin textbook :) to come up with some of his own.

Bobs post was so..... not logical and easy to detect that even amatures here on TW should have given us heads up on it.

Dont know if you remember our French chez spinbalz scammer, it took me a while before I "outed" him like the Belgian inspector Hercule Poirot.;-)
 
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