KSwiss Hypercourt Supreme lovers - what other shoes do you like?

[puppybutts]

The following is my shoe list (condensed comments)

• KSwiss Hypercourt Supreme (true)
  • great fit, good balance of weight/durability/support, love the bootie construction, heel cup is secure but still easy to slip your foot into, love the circle on the outsole to help pivot movements
  • only complaint is the midsole bottoms out before I've worn out the outsole...feels like a waste. right pinky toe gets ever so slightly cramped
• Diadora Blueshield 4 (half size down)
  • Comfortable, durable
  • Unfortunately, these bruise my second toenail on both feet in longer or more intense sessions....I don't enjoy having to regrow a toenail throughout the year
  • tried the 5s but the uppers pinch my feet
• Fila Axilus 2 (true)
  • I thought the shortened length would be an issue, and while it feels weird at times, I've had 0 issue with fit surprisingly
  • My main issues are 1) uppers are too soft and without structure, and 2) too much heel slippage, even with runner's knot, and 3) would like some more cushioning in the forefoot
• Nike GP Turbo (half size up)
  • Super comfortable and cushioned
  • Get kind of hot, feel kind of bulky, right pinky toe gets smushed a little
• Yonex Sonicage Wide
  • super lightweight and fast, great fit and performance
  • outsoles wears out way too fast for my budget preferences

I like to have a few different shoes on hand. 1) to help make sure I'm changing up any pressure points or muscle usage in my feet, and 2) to have options when certain models are on sale and others aren't

Trickiest thing for me is fit....everything else is secondary. Tired of blisters, bruised toenails, cramped pinky toe on one foot. I'd say the Supremes, Sonicage Wide, and Axilus 2 are the best fit that I've tried.

Shoes that didn't work:

• Asics Gel Res 8 Normal and Wide (inners felt hard on my toes and ankle collar kept biting into my ankle bone)
• New Balance shoes (can't remember why, but they weren't comfortable)

Shoes I want to try: (would love some comments on these from any Supreme lovers)

• KSwiss Ultrashot 3
• Head Revolt Pro
• Adidas SoleMatch Bounce or SoleCourt Boost (but reviews saying the wider flange part started ripping kind of make me wary)
• Lotto Raptor 100 SPD

 

[ohplease]

I haven't tried the hypercourt supremes, but have been thinking about getting them. They're supposed to have the same midsole material as the ultrashot 3s, and my experience with those is the opposite of yours - outsole is wearing quickly, but cushioning is holding up (not sure if insoles matter - I always put in spencos). My experience with other recent models:

• Asics Gel Resolution 8s - the midfoot strapping really needs to go. I really liked every previous model of this shoe and I won't get them again if they keep doing that thing with the tongue. They were generally fine, but break-in took a while and cushioning bottomed out quickly for me
• Adidas SoleMatch Bounce - great shoe. Lighter but also less roomy and less cushioned than the ultrashots. I use these as game day shoes
• Nike Zoom Vapor Cage 4 - haven't tried them on court yet. Often described as wider fitting but I found them to have even less room than the SoleMatch. Will definitely need breaking in before I'd use them in matches

If money was no object, I'd probably just keep getting ultrashot 3s as I have wide/high volume feet and they're the most roomy/comfortable I've found.

 

[beltsman]

The following is my shoe list (condensed comments)

• KSwiss Hypercourt Supreme (true)
  • great fit, good balance of weight/durability/support, love the bootie construction, heel cup is secure but still easy to slip your foot into, love the circle on the outsole to help pivot movements
  • only complaint is the midsole bottoms out before I've worn out the outsole...feels like a waste. right pinky toe gets ever so slightly cramped
• Diadora Blueshield 4 (half size down)
  • Comfortable, durable
  • Unfortunately, these bruise my second toenail on both feet in longer or more intense sessions....I don't enjoy having to regrow a toenail throughout the year
  • tried the 5s but the uppers pinch my feet
• Fila Axilus 2 (true)
  • I thought the shortened length would be an issue, and while it feels weird at times, I've had 0 issue with fit surprisingly
  • My main issues are 1) uppers are too soft and without structure, and 2) too much heel slippage, even with runner's knot, and 3) would like some more cushioning in the forefoot
• Nike GP Turbo (half size up)
  • Super comfortable and cushioned
  • Get kind of hot, feel kind of bulky, right pinky toe gets smushed a little
• Yonex Sonicage Wide
  • super lightweight and fast, great fit and performance
  • outsoles wears out way too fast for my budget preferences

I like to have a few different shoes on hand. 1) to help make sure I'm changing up any pressure points or muscle usage in my feet, and 2) to have options when certain models are on sale and others aren't

Trickiest thing for me is fit....everything else is secondary. Tired of blisters, bruised toenails, cramped pinky toe on one foot. I'd say the Supremes, Sonicage Wide, and Axilus 2 are the best fit that I've tried.

Shoes that didn't work:

• Asics Gel Res 8 Normal and Wide (inners felt hard on my toes and ankle collar kept biting into my ankle bone)
• New Balance shoes (can't remember why, but they weren't comfortable)

Shoes I want to try: (would love some comments on these from any Supreme lovers)

• KSwiss Ultrashot 3
• Head Revolt Pro
• Adidas SoleMatch Bounce or SoleCourt Boost (but reviews saying the wider flange part started ripping kind of make me wary)
• Lotto Raptor 100 SPD

What about the hypercourt express?

 

[McLovin]

Yonex Sonicage Wide

• super lightweight and fast, great fit and performance
• outsoles wears out way too fast for my budget preferences

I’ve also found the Sonicage Wide to be a suitable replacement for the Supreme. The only Yonex shoe I’ve found that fits my foot.

 

[McLovin]

What about the hypercourt express?

A little too wide for me. Heel isn’t as locked in as I’d like.

 

[RACQUETMD]

I haven't tried the hypercourt supremes, but have been thinking about getting them. They're supposed to have the same midsole material as the ultrashot 3s, and my experience with those is the opposite of yours - outsole is wearing quickly, but cushioning is holding up (not sure if insoles matter - I always put in spencos). My experience with other recent models:

• Asics Gel Resolution 8s - the midfoot strapping really needs to go. I really liked every previous model of this shoe and I won't get them again if they keep doing that thing with the tongue. They were generally fine, but break-in took a while and cushioning bottomed out quickly for me
• Adidas SoleMatch Bounce - great shoe. Lighter but also less roomy and less cushioned than the ultrashots. I use these as game day shoes
• Nike Zoom Vapor Cage 4 - haven't tried them on court yet. Often described as wider fitting but I found them to have even less room than the SoleMatch. Will definitely need breaking in before I'd use them in matches

If money was no object, I'd probably just keep getting ultrashot 3s as I have wide/high volume feet and they're the most roomy/comfortable I've found.

Cage 4's are heavy and clunky.

 

[quest01]

I have to wear 2 pairs of socks with the hypercourt express 2's. The Ultrashot 3's are an ounce heavier than the express 2's and are more cushioned in the heel.

 

[DrPingu]

I have both the Hypercourt Supremes and Lotto Raptors. Raptors are heavier but most definitely do not feel heavy to me at all when wearing them. The Raptors are incredibly comfortable to me, cushioning is great even on really hard hard courts. I find them more comfortable and feel less tired, my feet feel fresh even after playing in them, compared to the Hypercourt Supremes. I may also be a little biased because the support around heel and ankle is so much better in the Raptors. I have come to somewhat not trust the Hypercourt Supremes as much because of the lack of a really supportive and hard heel counter. Carrying an ankle/Achilles injury (sustained in the Hypercourt Supremes) which the Hypercourt Supremes really do not help and my Achilles bothers me when playing in them, whilst in the Raptors I can play without noticing it if I am careful. This indicates, at least to me, how much better support and protection around my ankle and for my Achilles I get with the Raptors by comparison.

 

[puppybutts]

What about the hypercourt express?

oops forgot to mention, i have tried them. they do fit well too, but they are too soft and unsupportive for my preference, foot does not feel secure. the rubber cage thing on the axilus 2, another soft shoe, helps a little but IMO the hc express is worse. comfortable though otherwise.

 

[puppybutts]

I haven't tried the hypercourt supremes, but have been thinking about getting them. They're supposed to have the same midsole material as the ultrashot 3s, and my experience with those is the opposite of yours - outsole is wearing quickly, but cushioning is holding up (not sure if insoles matter - I always put in spencos). My experience with other recent models:

• Asics Gel Resolution 8s - the midfoot strapping really needs to go. I really liked every previous model of this shoe and I won't get them again if they keep doing that thing with the tongue. They were generally fine, but break-in took a while and cushioning bottomed out quickly for me
• Adidas SoleMatch Bounce - great shoe. Lighter but also less roomy and less cushioned than the ultrashots. I use these as game day shoes
• Nike Zoom Vapor Cage 4 - haven't tried them on court yet. Often described as wider fitting but I found them to have even less room than the SoleMatch. Will definitely need breaking in before I'd use them in matches

If money was no object, I'd probably just keep getting ultrashot 3s as I have wide/high volume feet and they're the most roomy/comfortable I've found.

thanks. regarding asics - yeah personally i have no tolerance for shoes that require breaking in. what's the point of spending money on something that is only usable after wearing down a good amount of its lifespan? not to mention damage is already done to my feet by the time break in is done. i think that's why i didn't like new balance either - hard out of the box.

hm I was putting off trying ultrashot 3 because they got more narrow than the ultrashot 2, which were a good fit for my feet. interesting that you find them the most roomy.

 

[puppybutts]

I’ve also found the Sonicage Wide to be a suitable replacement for the Supreme. The only Yonex shoe I’ve found that fits my foot.

i wish they made the eclipsion in wide. that looks like a great shoe.

 

[puppybutts]

I have both the Hypercourt Supremes and Lotto Raptors. Raptors are heavier but most definitely do not feel heavy to me at all when wearing them. The Raptors are incredibly comfortable to me, cushioning is great even on really hard hard courts. I find them more comfortable and feel less tired, my feet feel fresh even after playing in them, compared to the Hypercourt Supremes. I may also be a little biased because the support around heel and ankle is so much better in the Raptors. I have come to somewhat not trust the Hypercourt Supremes as much because of the lack of a really supportive and hard heel counter. Carrying an ankle/Achilles injury (sustained in the Hypercourt Supremes) which the Hypercourt Supremes really do not help and my Achilles bothers me when playing in them, whilst in the Raptors I can play without noticing it if I am careful. This indicates, at least to me, how much better support and protection around my ankle and for my Achilles I get with the Raptors by comparison.

have you tried runner's knot? the supreme heel cup was just a tad loose out of the box, and runner's knot cinched it up real nice for me.

was the fit of the raptor and supremes pretty similar for you? glad to hear positive things about the raptor

 

[DrPingu]

have you tried runner's knot? the supreme heel cup was just a tad loose out of the box, and runner's knot cinched it up real nice for me.

was the fit of the raptor and supremes pretty similar for you? glad to hear positive things about the raptor

I did use a runner’s knot when wearing them, yes. Definitely helped and felt more secure but did not feel wholly stable because of that essentially fabric heel counter. I will concede that part of that is likely psychological at this stage but the lack of a truly supportive and rigid heel counter is a turnoff and I do not feel anywhere near as stable and assured without one.

I have them in the same size and think the Hypercourt Supremes are a bit more generous in width. That said, the Raptors uppers really felt like they stretched out and softened up, both in a good way, to then feel similar. They still feel secure and supportive but the upper gave enough to maintain that but feel more comfortable. They really are, to me at least, exceedingly comfortable shoes while feeling solid.

 

[haqq777]

You need to add Babolat SFX3 to your list. Your feet sound like they are very similar in shape to mine. These are extremely comfortable on the feet with the right amount of cushion and performance. Im currently wearing the GP Turbo (half size up) and they are broken in but honestly, they are bulky and awkward and I have been longing SFX3 since I ran through all my pairs. Only downside is sometimes well into being worn, I can feel a bit of instability on lateral movements. But other than that no complaints.

 

[puppybutts]

thanks for the recos! looking forward to trying the raptor and SFX3