Kudos to Big Pharma

Discussion in 'Health & Fitness' started by ollinger, Oct 11, 2017.

  1. ollinger

    ollinger Legend

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2004
    Messages:
    8,589
    Location:
    New Jersey
    A study just published in Science suggests that people respond better to a drug when they know or believe it to be particularly expensive. And the cynics here all thought it was about profits!!
     
    rossignol, nvr2old and Soul like this.
    #1
  2. sureshs

    sureshs Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2005
    Messages:
    45,183
    It is the same as thinking that an expensive limited edition autographed version of a racket helps you play better
     
    nvr2old likes this.
    #2
  3. Sentinel

    Sentinel Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2008
    Messages:
    48,712
    Location:
    RR Lyrae
    Suresh, this means you need to try more expensive weight-loss medicines. Throw away those cheap drugs.
     
    #3
  4. Mac33

    Mac33 Professional

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2014
    Messages:
    1,089
    We do need more and more sheep,I mean people believing in their poison,I mean 'medication'.

    After all the effects like obesity and a dumbing down of the population fit right in to our agenda.
     
    #4
  5. r2473

    r2473 G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2006
    Messages:
    12,426
    Martin Shkreli for president!!

    #smirkinglivesmatter
     
    #5
  6. maleyoyo

    maleyoyo Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2005
    Messages:
    594
    Absolutely.
    That's how viagara works
    Same with billion dollars male enhancement products.
     
    #6
  7. Raul_SJ

    Raul_SJ Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    May 19, 2011
    Messages:
    2,586
    Location:
    San Jose, California
    Isn't this just a variation of the placebo effect? What is new about this study?
     
    #7
  8. ollinger

    ollinger Legend

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2004
    Messages:
    8,589
    Location:
    New Jersey
    It describes a heretofore undemonstrated aspect of the placebo effect, the cost of the drug. (One of my favorite placebo studies was a pain study in which patients were either given a very small pill, a medium sized pill, or a very large pill. The medium sized pill was the least effective for the pain, as subjects later indicated they thought the large pill implied lots of medicine, while the very small pill implied highly concentrated medicine that must be very potent)
     
    #8
  9. ollinger

    ollinger Legend

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2004
    Messages:
    8,589
    Location:
    New Jersey
    which ones have you tried?
     
    #9
  10. maleyoyo

    maleyoyo Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2005
    Messages:
    594
    The best that money can buy...duh!
     
    #10
  11. Mac33

    Mac33 Professional

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2014
    Messages:
    1,089
    #11
  12. ollinger

    ollinger Legend

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2004
    Messages:
    8,589
    Location:
    New Jersey
    convicted by a jury of his peers for willfully flouting the law, and I suspect nobody on that jury worked for a drug company
     
    #12
  13. movdqa

    movdqa G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2006
    Messages:
    15,756
    You don't need medicine to lose weight.
     
    #13
  14. r2473

    r2473 G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2006
    Messages:
    12,426
    In sureshs case you need a miracle
     
    #14
  15. Mac33

    Mac33 Professional

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2014
    Messages:
    1,089
    I loved in Govt housing for 20 years plus,and I have seen it all.....

    One girl I knew who was of average size,went on psych medication - her weight ballooned by around 20 kg in a short time!

    Over half,possibly a lot higher are on their 'medication'.

    Hardly surprising then that nearly all have been dumbed down or have emotional issues - from my experience anyway.
     
    #15
  16. Mac33

    Mac33 Professional

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2014
    Messages:
    1,089
    #16
  17. sureshs

    sureshs Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2005
    Messages:
    45,183
    #17
  18. sureshs

    sureshs Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2005
    Messages:
    45,183
    And now people are complaining that his family is not being allowed to see him. Turns out they will not get photo IDs to show at the jail as it is against their religion. Great. So now the police are bending the rules to allow them in on the basis of birth certificates.

    There is a reason for issuing photo IDs with latest tamper-proof technology. I guess that does not apply to someone with "religious" rights.
     
    #18
  19. r2473

    r2473 G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2006
    Messages:
    12,426
    You need to read the 1st Amendment to the US constitution and the surrounding case law.
     
    #19
  20. sureshs

    sureshs Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2005
    Messages:
    45,183
    OK let me know the next time a Muslim goes to an airport and refuses to show a photo ID due to religious reasons. Then I will believe in the First Amendment.

    First Amendment is about having the freedom to worship, not the freedom to burden government agencies by not following procedure.

    It is time to stop glorifying stupidity and lack of common sense as religiosity.
     
    #20
  21. r2473

    r2473 G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2006
    Messages:
    12,426
    You need to read the court rulings. If you believe certain groups are not being treated fairly or are given undo consideration under the law, I'm sure there are no shortage of lawyers that would love to take your case and try to get in front of the Supreme Court.

    We are common law, not civil law.


    And make sure your city places 3 reindeer around the nativity scene in the town square this holiday season. ;)
     
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2017
    #21

Share This Page