Kudos to both finalists

Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by nyu, Jul 4, 2004.

  1. nyu

    nyu Rookie

    Feb 22, 2004
    What an amazing display of tennis by both men. Fed showed why he is the best in the world, and Roddick proved that he has improved tremendously in the past year. As cliche as it sounds, there isn't a loser this year, as Roddick and Federer lovers both should be able to appreciate the extremely high caliber of play exhibited by both men. Congrats to Fed for playing a solid match, and we all know we will see Roddick in(and win) some more finals.
  2. AAAA

    AAAA Hall of Fame

    Feb 20, 2004
    Federer wasn't at his best. His game was 'off' by about 20%.
  3. VamosRafa

    VamosRafa Hall of Fame

    May 3, 2004
    I think his game was off by 20% because Roddick put it off.

    I am SO proud of Andy. I agree with NYU. There was no loser. And the real winner is men's tennis.

    As many of you know, I'm an Andy fan, but I had no idea his game had improved that much. He gave Fed all he could handle, and then some. As he said, he threw the kitchen sink at Roger, who then went in the bathroom and got a tub. :lol: But I had no idea Andy had the kitchen sink in his repertoire.

    I know folks will continue to say what a Johnny-one-note Andy is, and how wonderful Fed is. And my response will be to watch a tape of this match. Two great champions, and I hope they get to play more matches. Not that much is separating them at this point, if they both play well. Andy had his chances, which will give him confidence the next time they play.

    Congrats to them both, and to Fed on a trophy well deserved. :mrgreen:

    Now bring on the summer hardcourts!
  4. chad shaver

    chad shaver Semi-Pro

    Feb 18, 2004
    Most surprising aspects of Roddick's game to me were his return game and his slice backhand. His slice was really on today.
  5. STRman

    STRman Rookie

    Feb 23, 2004
    It was quality play by both guys. Fedderer seemed to be having more trouble with his serve than normal and I think Andy played about as good as I have ever seen him play. Great final!
  6. tiebreaker

    tiebreaker New User

    Jun 30, 2004
    credit Andy

    Hard to imagine playing as well as Andy did
    and not coming away with a win.
    I've never been a big Roddick fan but
    he made me a believer today. He is
    a greatly improved player--backhand,
    movement, net play, maturity.
    Post match comments also reflected
    more maturity.
    He played so well that he actually
    made Federer look like a mortal.
    Federer, of course, confirmed his
    greatness by playing the big points
    at the end of the match at his usual
    amazing level.

    By the way, I'm new to these boards and
    I am amazed at the personal attacks
    on certain players--Andy, Lleyton, Capriati,
    and Serena really take some hits.
    It is surprising that so many people focus
    on non-tennis issues. Yeah, of course, I
    see some of the goofy comments and
    behaviors but all of that stuff is typical
    of youth.
  7. Free_Martha

    Free_Martha Guest

    I hope this terrific match got a lot of viewers for NBC. It was one of the better finals men's tennis could ask for and it's great for tennis. Congratulations to both players.
  8. VashTheStampede

    VashTheStampede Semi-Pro

    Jun 28, 2004

    Yea, i too, really hope that that Wimbledon Final received a lot of viewers. It is sad that people these days dont even give tennis a chance. They see a fault and they flip the channel in a second, having no clue what they are missing. sad.
  9. VamosRafa

    VamosRafa Hall of Fame

    May 3, 2004

    Yep, they do. Some of it is justified, but some of it is just plain trash talk. I try to ignore that, but do enjoy responding to well-informed, intelligent criticism and opinions. There is a fair amount of that, although you sometimes have to get out your boots and wade through the other junk. That can be annoying, and it takes away from the overall quality of the board, imo.

    There are very few Andy fans here, but there are people who don't care for him, but will give him his due. And I respect that. But others would rag on him even if he won THE grand slam, beating Fed in all four finals, and picking up an Olympic Gold Medal on his way between Wimbly and the USO. That type of bias cannot be overcome, and creeps into many discussions here. :roll:

    There also are people who are overly obsessed with Federer (to put mildly), and with the looks of certain teenage players. But, hey, nothing's perfect -- except Maria Sharapova's teeth. :lol:

  10. Deuce

    Deuce Banned

    Feb 13, 2004
    A not so parallel universe...
    The NBC guys kept telling us what a "great, high quality match" this was, and it seems to have influenced a few people here...

    Personally, I've seen about 100 matches that were of higher quality than was this one. It wasn't terrible by any measure - but I certaintly wouldn't use the word 'great' to describe it. Roddick played as well as I've seen him play in the first set, then leveled off somewhat, while still maintaining a relatively high level of play. Federer started poorly by the standard he has set. He didn't seem 'into' the match. Only after the final rain delay did he look like the Federer we've come to know.

    So, essentially, there was very high quality tennis being played by ONE player throughout the match - Roddick for the first half or so, and Federer for the second half or so. But it wasn't very often that both players were at their best at the same time in this match.

    A "great, high quality match"? No. More like an "interesting, well played match."
  11. alienhamster

    alienhamster Hall of Fame

    Mar 16, 2004

    Good comments. I think I agree with you about the changing quality of play from both players. But you have to keep in mind that this was a slam final, and compared to what we've experienced the past few years, this *was* a great match to witness. It was so nice to have such a competitive final, with so much on the line, with both guys really pushing each other mentally and physically.
  12. hangzhou

    hangzhou Rookie

    Feb 19, 2004
    My take on the 20% off for Federer roughly:

    1. 10% came from himself, his back hand and sometime even his forehand were quite off. His first servers were not as sharp or effective as it was before. During first set, he was quite slow, but he managed to get something back in later sets. But still quite off for himself. He did make some changes on his second server so that Andy had less chance or angle for attacking.

    2. 10% came from Roddick's all-out strategy. Federer took a while to get use to Andy server's timing. Andy's consistency level off back to his normal situation during later sets especially these break points in Roger's service games.

    So I believe that Roger was about 20% of during the first set and early second set. After the second rain break, he got back to about 10% and turned things around especially in some crucial points. It will not be a great or high quality game if you compare it to the matches Roger had during last ATP finals at Houston. But it was a quite dramatic one.

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