Kyrgios : FO Code violation -So when Djokovic pushes an umpire that’s alright?

Mr.Lob

G.O.A.T.
Just saw the point in question. The camera only showed a second of Kyrgios yelling "towel!" at the ballboy, and there was no replay, but the expression on Kyrgios face was clearly one of anger and frustration at not getting his towel WHEN he wanted.

Kyrgios puts away a short ball away near the service line, then turns, takes a step or two, still around midcourt, and curiously screams "towel"... like he expected the ballboy to know he wanted a towel, and sprint to give it to him. Didn't notice he signed for towel, he may have. Wasn't that bad. Navratilova thought it was a bad call on the chairs part.
 
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newpball

Legend
Kyrgios for whatever reason seems to have a real problem with Djokovic as this isn't the first time he's referenced him in a negative manner. Really hope Novak smashes this jerk into the court when they eventually play one another. :cool:
I would not mind getting a bit of some Ali - Frazier or Liston drama in tennis!

Hopefully this politically correct uppity ideal son in law private jet owning while still caring for the environment type is finally finished in tennis marketing!



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kalpab

Semi-Pro
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Mainad

Bionic Poster
Kyrgios for whatever reason seems to have a real problem with Djokovic as this isn't the first time he's referenced him in a negative manner. Really hope Novak smashes this jerk into the court when they eventually play one another. :cool:

He tends to reference both Djokovic and Nadal as examples of top players who he thinks are treated differently by officials to the rest of the tour ie. himself.
 

Wooly

Rookie
takes a step or two, still around midcourt, and curiously screams "towel"... like he expected the ballboy to know he wanted a towel, and sprint to give it to him. Didn't notice he signed for towel, he may have. Wasn't that bad. Navratilova thought it was a bad call on the chairs part.

IF you are around 5-6 Years old its ok ....
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
I'm like Federer on this one. "We need a clown for this circus". The tournament is barely underway and we already have to hear about this crap, instead of the matches. As far as his comment about Djokovic, I blame tennis.com for their extreme bias and fangirling for Fedal and always trying to find a negative angle to write about Djokovic. Kyrgios is basically quoting them in an article that they posted on their site. See kids, biased media is bad.

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cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
He tends to reference both Djokovic and Nadal as examples of top players who he thinks are treated differently by officials to the rest of the tour ie. himself.

But he seems to love your hero Mr. Murray! :D

In all seriousness, I don't see what he did as a big deal. The commentators I was listening to on Tennis Channel, i.e. Courier and Navratilova were with Kyrgios and not the umpire on this one. They thought it was a bad call from the umpire.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
Now, now calm down. I'm sure mommy or daddy will be along to change your diaper soon.

That's what you need to do because what Kyrgios did wasn't a big deal. Jim Courier and Martina Navratilova thought the umpire's call was ridiculous on this one.
 

Noelan

Legend
Kyrgios for whatever reason seems to have a real problem with Djokovic as this isn't the first time he's referenced him in a negative manner. Really hope Novak smashes this jerk into the court when they eventually play one another. :cool:
I dont know what kind of problem he could have with Djok ,he never played against him(I'm looking forward to it). Guy seems angry and jealous at best players for no reason.He should concentrate on himself, his game and opponent across the net, not on players that aren't present on court.That's braty behaviour and it will not bring him any good in the future. On the contrary it will give him reputation of a whiny coward .
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
I dont know what kind of problem he could have with Djok ,he never played against him(I'm looking forward to it). Guy seems angry and jealous at best players for no reason.He should concentrate on himself, his game and opponent across the net, not on players that aren't present on court.That's braty behaviour and it will not bring him any good in the future. On the contrary it will give him reputation of a whiny coward .

Well this is what your God Djokovic has to say about Kyrgios:

But the Djoker has praised Kyrgios for his improvement on the court - and for injecting some fun and games onto the court.

'I think he's definitely a very intriguing player to watch. He does have a personality and he's very unique,' Djokovic said.

'I think it's interesting for tennis fans to have Kyrgios, definitely, as somebody that competes in a high level. He's young, but he's managing toperform his best in the big matches lately.

'He's got the firepower from more or less every corner. He's got one of the best serves. I think he's picking his spots very efficiently. His second serve is very impressive in tough moments.

'Tennis-wise, he definitely has skills, he has the quality. He's a big guy but he moves well. He's improving.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/te...ise-despite-defeat-Miami-Open-semi-final.html
 
Give it a rest. He hardly shouted and when he did it was so that he was heard over the crowd. He is right to bring up examples of other pros. Novak, Andy and even Roger don't always treat ball boys well yet they still get away with it half the time. Unbelievable bias happening on the court
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
What's your problem really?o_O

Problem? You posted a rant about how Kyrgios has a problem with Djokovic and how that behavior will not bring him any good in the future and will ruin his reputation so I quoted you a comment from Djokovic himself about Kyrgios' talent and possible future. He seems to disagree with you. Maybe you should honour your Lord and Master? ;)
 
Much ado about nothing, a really small "shove", a raised voice in frustration, pretty trivial in the big scheme of things, HOWEVER
Trump saying he can shoot someone and people still vote for him and he'll get away with it, that's even more disturbing.
/sorry for political interjection but it's only going to get worse this summer :(
 

Noelan

Legend
Problem? You posted a rant about how Kyrgios has a problem with Djokovic and how that behavior will not bring him any good in the future and will ruin his reputation so I quoted you a comment from Djokovic himself about Kyrgios' talent and possible future. He seems to disagree with you. Maybe you should honour your Lord and Master? ;)
So?
I didn't rant about Djokovic only, I said he has problems with best players (his comments about Wawrinka personal life, about Nadal time wasting then today Djok mentioning..)

You think you're going to insult me and ridiculed me because I'm Novak fan, well you won't:cool:
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
So?
I didn't rant about Djokovic only, I said he has problems with best players (his comments about Wawrinka personal life, about Nadal time wasting then today Djok mentioning..)

You think you're going to insult me and ridiculed me because I'm Novak fan, well you won't:cool:

I don't care what you do to be honest. I didn't insult you. I responded to your post because you singled out the fact that Kyrgios had a problem with Djokovic so I posted a recent comment from Djokovic saying that he thinks Kyrgios has future potential so he seems to disagree with your assessment of Kyrgios and how his behavior won't do him any good in the future. That's all.
 
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Deleted member 733170

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Give it a rest. He hardly shouted and when he did it was so that he was heard over the crowd. He is right to bring up examples of other pros. Novak, Andy and even Roger don't always treat ball boys well yet they still get away with it half the time. Unbelievable bias happening on the court


The tiresome kid in the class is not treated the same way by the teachers as those who generally make some effort to comply and don't play the fool every five minutes.

He deserves everything he gets (and more).
 
Unfortunately Nick has built himself a reputation which umpires are basing their decisions upon.
I think it's unfair to say he deserves it all and more. You don't know him personally. So you can't say that. Yes he has had his bad moments where he messed up although he has seriously improved his attitude this year.
 

SQA333

Hall of Fame
Kyrgios for whatever reason seems to have a real problem with Djokovic as this isn't the first time he's referenced him in a negative manner. Really hope Novak smashes this jerk into the court when they eventually play one another. :cool:

Djokovic will have no problem beating this guy if Murray with a slightly inferior return of serve can break Kyrgios at will...
 

Noelan

Legend
It was hardly a rant. And do you really playing dumb that you can't undarstand what I wrote .Nowhere I said that he has problems with Djokovic only but with best players including Djok (obvously after today incident)
I don't care what you do to be honest. I didn't insult you. I responded to your post because you singled out the fact that Kyrgios had a problem with Djokovic so I posted a recent comment from Djokovic saying that he thinks Kyrgios has future potential so he seems to disagree with your assessment of Kyrgios and how his behavior won't do him any good in the future. That's all.
 

Candide

Hall of Fame
That the umpire made a "bad call" is entirely possible - umpires are human. But it's a warning, it's about the equivalent of an 8th of a yellow card in a football (soccer) match. What people are really annoyed at is Kyrgios ultra-petulant, expletive rich, reaction to it. Given an opportunity to be the "big guy" and acknowledge that we live in a post-Copernican universe that does not revolve around planet Nick (Kyrgiocentric?) but in which he is just another passenger on the celestial carousel (heliocentric) he, once again, chose the lowest possible road. He dragged in other players and umpires slandering their integrity and professionalism for no other reason than to try to justify the fact that the whole world is against him for no reason at all - 'cos he's just such a decent, polite, humble stand-up guy trying to get by. Pfft. He is the poster-boy for the spoiled, narcissistic, selfie-marinated generation that is the unlovely product of attachment parenting preciousness. This is why I, and not a few others, find him unbearable to watch... I think. But I may be wrong, I am about most things. If it turns out that I am I will acknowledge it and I promise I won't direct abuse at anyone who points out the fact.
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Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Murray, Djokovic and Nadal are all as narcissistic as Kyrgios, so nothing much distinguishes him in this regard.

Murray rants at his box.

Djokovic rants at officials.

Nadal rants at officials, delays the start of the match and the start of each service point.

Federer has been know to rant at officials and swear, but he does control the best.
 

Candide

Hall of Fame
Murray, Djokovic and Nadal are all as narcissistic as Kyrgios, so nothing much distinguishes him in this regard.

You may be right, but at least they can, generally, contain the ugliness or just direct it at themselves (or their box as Mauresmo witnessed) which is at least a doff of the cap to the existence of the humanity of other people (isn't that essentially what manners are). It may be for sponsorship or it may be because they are trying to be more decent people but it's the actions that count. I have to say I often wince at Murray's misery guts demeanour like the playing out of a much too private psycho-drama in public but at least I struggle to remember instances of him abusing umpires or ball boys and certainly of slandering other players. He may do this but the fact that I can't think of examples means it's at least not the rule. More or less the same goes for the others. Some things do annoy me more. Nadal's endless gamesmanship is over the line for me but many don't mind it.
 
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Mainad

Bionic Poster
Another black mark against Murray I'm afraid.

Just joking Mainad

I should add that Murray doesn't condone Kyrgios' bad behaviour in any way but he argues that he is basically a nice guy who just needs to mature a bit. Kyrgios has praised Murray for his mentoring role towards him and some of the younger guys. :)
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Kyrgios annoyed bellowing at the ball kid was nothing personal and Ramos was exercising an all too personal dislike of discourtesy.
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
Dropping f bombs and swearing, penalties should be given.
'Yelling' towel? No. He's got a point, the double standards are obscene in the sport. Code violations etc.
Did Kyrgios get a violation for swearing? Because if he didn't that just shows how bad these results are implemented if yelling towel gets a warning yet swearing off in front of children is ok?
Tennis needs to clarify these rules with umpires etc.
 

Mr.Lob

G.O.A.T.
Even going by the book, enforcing the rules can be very subjective. No two chair umpires are going to call things exactly the same. There was no double standard with Kyrgios comparing what he did with Djokovic swatting away the chair umpires hand over a disputed line call. It was NOT the same umpire!! These chair umpires are not the "Borg". They do not share a collective mind. They think and interpret the rules using their best judgement. o_O

And yelling "towel" was not what got Kyrgios a code violation. It was how he said it, per the chair umpire.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
It was a rather precious call by the umpire and then when Krygios exploded he was left looking a little gutless.
 

Mr.Lob

G.O.A.T.
The sad thing is this wasn't even the 1st time Ferrer has done something like this. He did the exact same thing at the USO 2012 against Hewitt. Maybe even earlier than that, but I'm not to sure...

Never understood why these lines people let players drape sweaty mucus lined towels on THEIR chair? That linesman, after being shoved, should have picked up that towel and thrown it at Ferrer's face. Shino should have grabbed the tennis ball out of Serenas hand, and shoved it down Serenas throat. The chair umpire that got his hand pushed away by Djokovic should have punched Novak in the throat. These lines people, and chair umpires, should be allowed to defend themselves against these aggressive meldonium fueled athletes!o_O
 

The Green Mile

Bionic Poster
Kyr was wrong, umpire was biased.

Kyr will never be a top player.

Zeverev is younger, more mature and he will have a better future.

When things don't go Zverev's way, he does throw a tantrum every now and then. Certainly not as much as Kyrgios, but then, who does? But along with Thiem, I think he is always looking to improve, and it shows in how hard he is on himself. Seems to have a good work ethic.
 

OddJack

G.O.A.T.
When things don't go Zverev's way, he does throw a tantrum every now and then. Certainly not as much as Kyrgios, but then, who does? But along with Thiem, I think he is always looking to improve, and it shows in how hard he is on himself. Seems to have a good work ethic.
I agree with Thiem as well. He is always under the radar going about his business. Kind of like Cilic, low profile. He is doing better than Kyr but you dont hear his name much.
 
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