Kyrgios Lead Tape

mr.torrence

Rookie
makes total sense. when I was 12 i was wielding a racquet with a sw of 380, because i was too weak to swing a racquet with a sw of 310.
 

deadpoly

New User
And the nerds on TT have been saying a pro can't hit anything with that low of a swing weight because they need a racquet that's at least 350 or more to handle such ungodly pace coming at them. And here comes Kyrgios, tearing down that prevalent bull$hit myth with a racquet that weighs 340 grams and a 322 swing weight, strung, dropping bombs over the net at 140mph.
And then we'll get somebody claiming that somebody cut the strings out, removed the bumper to remove all the lead, put the bumper back on, strung it again with a fresh pair of whatever, and stenciled the Yonex sign on it and that we've all been duped.
 

dr. godmode

Professional
And the nerds on TT have been saying a pro can't hit anything with that low of a swing weight because they need a racquet that's at least 350 or more to handle such ungodly pace coming at them. And here comes Kyrgios, tearing down that prevalent bull$hit myth with a racquet that weighs 340 grams and a 322 swing weight, strung, dropping bombs over the net at 140mph.
And then we'll get somebody claiming that somebody cut the strings out, removed the bumper to remove all the lead, put the bumper back on, strung it again with a fresh pair of whatever, and stenciled the Yonex sign on it and that we've all been duped.
I definitely think that extra swingweight would help the depth consistency on his forehand. It feels like he really has to be "ON," for him to dominate with it.
 

stingstang

Professional
And the nerds on TT have been saying a pro can't hit anything with that low of a swing weight because they need a racquet that's at least 350 or more to handle such ungodly pace coming at them. And here comes Kyrgios, tearing down that prevalent bull$hit myth with a racquet that weighs 340 grams and a 322 swing weight, strung, dropping bombs over the net at 140mph.
And then we'll get somebody claiming that somebody cut the strings out, removed the bumper to remove all the lead, put the bumper back on, strung it again with a fresh pair of whatever, and stenciled the Yonex sign on it and that we've all been duped.
You don't need the weight but it sure makes it a lot easier. You would need incredible arm speed, timing and wrist strength to do that with such a light stick.

I think Goffins racquet is also super light.
 

Tennease

Legend
And the nerds on TT have been saying a pro can't hit anything with that low of a swing weight because they need a racquet that's at least 350 or more to handle such ungodly pace coming at them. And here comes Kyrgios, tearing down that prevalent bull$hit myth with a racquet that weighs 340 grams and a 322 swing weight, strung, dropping bombs over the net at 140mph.
And then we'll get somebody claiming that somebody cut the strings out, removed the bumper to remove all the lead, put the bumper back on, strung it again with a fresh pair of whatever, and stenciled the Yonex sign on it and that we've all been duped.
Yes he is able to blast the ball with light racquet. But the downside is, he often has elbow or arm problems. Lower string tension or softer string can probably help.
 

Bender

G.O.A.T.
I think it’s an ego thing :-D having a rock as a racquet won’t work for the majority, but they wanna be that guy who’s like “oh yeah man I use a racquet that makes Kyrgios shake in his boots” and then can barely make contact on time.
Are those guys by any chance also the "only girls hit 2HBHs" crowd that bunt 1HBHs exclusively with their forearms, get TE, and then blame Babolat and Luxilon for making stiff racquets and polys popular (despite using a Prince / Volkl / Wilson Blade pro stock with Champion's Choice(TM) at the time they got TE)? Because if it is I actually know a few people like that IRL.
 

SinneGOAT

Hall of Fame
Are those guys by any chance also the "only girls hit 2HBHs" crowd that bunt 1HBHs exclusively with their forearms, get TE, and then blame Babolat and Luxilon for making stiff racquets and polys popular (despite using a Prince / Volkl / Wilson Blade pro stock with Champion's Choice(TM) at the time they got TE)? Because if it is I actually know a few people like that IRL.
We think these kind of people are quarantined to this forum but you’d be surprised how prevalent these people are, especially the guy who has the one hander but is flatter than a wall and is all elbow.
 
Are those guys by any chance also the "only girls hit 2HBHs" crowd that bunt 1HBHs exclusively with their forearms, get TE, and then blame Babolat and Luxilon for making stiff racquets and polys popular (despite using a Prince / Volkl / Wilson Blade pro stock with Champion's Choice(TM) at the time they got TE)? Because if it is I actually know a few people like that IRL.
:laughing:
 

aaron_h27

Professional
How many slams to the resident 380 SW TTW experts have
Look at the specs of Fed, Nadal, Djok, Murray, Wawrinka, Del-Po, Zverev, Thiem...hopefully you see a pattern.

There are always exceptions to the rule, but it's clear there's an optimum way to set-up your equipment.

Fabrice Santoro was no.17 in the world without a proper top spin forehand, two handed on both sides...does that mean people shouldn't bother to learn how to properly hit a forehand?

I think it’s an ego thing :-D having a rock as a racquet won’t work for the majority, but they wanna be that guy who’s like “oh yeah man I use a racquet that makes Kyrgios shake in his boots” and then can barely make contact on time.
Nah, I just like winning LOL. Y'all assume people have to use heavy rackets to get the benefit of high SW, I use a 345 gram racket with 350 SW. I used to play with the RF 97 stock and that was a log, and i see many people playing with much heavier rackets than me still in leagues and tournaments.
 
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SinneGOAT

Hall of Fame
Nah, I just like winning LOL. Y'all assume people have to use heavy rackets to get the benefit of high SW, I use a 345 gram racket with 350 SW. I used to play with the RF 97 stock and that was a log, and i see many people playing with much heavier rackets than me still in leagues and tournaments.
Definitely an ego thing.
 

cortado

Professional
Are pros using less lead now because a lot of young pros are using racquets that have higher twist-weight as stock? Whereas previously a pro-racquet would have low twist-weight stock and you had to put a lot of lead at 3 and 9 to compensate, eg Sampras, Wawrinka.
 

aaron_h27

Professional
Are pros using less lead now because a lot of young pros are using racquets that have higher twist-weight as stock? Whereas previously a pro-racquet would have low twist-weight stock and you had to put a lot of lead at 3 and 9 to compensate, eg Sampras, Wawrinka.
I think that's one of the reasons for sure, larger head sizes don't require as much weight to get the same stability. Djokovic, Wawrinka, Del-Po, Murray, Shapovalov all use 95's.

But the average SW on the ATP is still 350, compared to 360 in the previos era. 345 for the WTA

 

SinneGOAT

Hall of Fame
Most pros must have ego problems, if only they got over their ego and played like Kyrgios and Goffin they'd be more successful
I’m saying regular 3.0 and 3.5’s need to get over themselves and find out they don’t need a 340+ swingweight and pro stock specs with a flex of 58 to be successful. Considering Kyrgios beat Djokovic, who has a swingweight of 370 as well as Nadal who has a 360 something swingweight at the same tournament that should be a sign.
 

aaron_h27

Professional
I’m saying regular 3.0 and 3.5’s need to get over themselves and find out they don’t need a 340+ swingweight and pro stock specs with a flex of 58 to be successful. Considering Kyrgios beat Djokovic, who has a swingweight of 370 as well as Nadal who has a 360 something swingweight at the same tournament that should be a sign.
I agree, but all of us aren't 3.0 or 3.5, don't generalize everyone :)
 
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StringGuruMRT

Semi-Pro
I agree, but all of us aren't 3.0 or 3.5, don't generalize everyone :)
No, not everyone. But I do find it very funny that so many players on these boards are OBSESSED with pro stock, and are under the impression that they can only play the RF97A. Although it was much worse when he was using a 90 sq in headsize... But take a look at the videos people have posted of themselves playing... You be the judge
 

aaron_h27

Professional
No, not everyone. But I do find it very funny that so many players on these boards are OBSESSED with pro stock, and are under the impression that they can only play the RF97A. Although it was much worse when he was using a 90 sq in headsize... But take a look at the videos people have posted of themselves playing... You be the judge
Yeah, the main thing is to do your own research/experimentation. I listened to people here and did use the RF97A for a while, I played ok but wasn't optimized for my game. I don't like overly head-light rackets and I love extended frames, which is something most people here don't advocate, but I am on the shorter end (5'7) happy playing!
 
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