Kyrgios to be Suspended 4 Weeks

Fedole

Semi-Pro
I don't even mind all this talk from Kyrgios. My main issue is that he lacks that winning mentality; he's acting like a loser. Show the swag, the arrogance; but don't go and lose to Feli Lopez in straights. Hope he sorts himself out, cos he's obviously good.
 

vive le beau jeu !

Talk Tennis Guru
Well that's one way to become the #1 by missing weeks of Tennis, Nick. Grand job.

Or is this a new GOAT strategy that us mere heathens cannot comprehend from Saint Nick? :eek:

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Nick Kyrgios says he's learning from mistakes

from: http://espn.go.com/tennis/usopen15/story/_/id/13562074/us-open-nick-kyrgios-says-learning-mistakes

well, the kid surely appears to be an "avid learner"... at this rythm, he'll quickly become a model of erudition on the tour :)
 
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BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
He reminds me of Federer in his early days.

You saw Fed in 1998? 1999? 2000?

Do tell.

Asinine and completely ridiculous comment.

Fed never in his life referenced an opponent's sex life during a match (or any other time).

Give it up, you're pathetic.
 

Wynter

Legend
Un-freakin' believable. Let's do some quick math for Nick's benefit:

Between them, Roger and Rafa have 31 majors.

Remind us again how many this dude Nick has won?

Are you saying Pro's who haven't won majors yet shouldn't be able to play in a professional environment?

That's what NK is getting at. Ball kids constantly losing track of the ball, talking Cameramen, these things won't be there when the top players play, why should it be there for everyone else?
 

chjtennis

G.O.A.T.
Seems more like young Hewitt in terms of attitude than young Federer.

I always thought young Federer had class, he was just a huge headcase that choked away winnable matches.

I don't recall Hewitt ever making this much controversial stupid comments. Kyrgios destroys himself, what a shame. I seriously doubt he will achieve much in tennis. He may still do some great things like winnings a couple of slams and getting ranked high, but I don't think he will do that consistently over a long period. Typically, players who lack discipline don't last long in any sport. I see him as Mike Tyson of tennis minus notable achievements yet.
 
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I don't recall Hewitt ever making this much controversial stupid comments. Kyrgios destroys himself, what a shame. I seriously doubt he will achieve much in tennis. He may still do some great things like winnings a couple of slams and getting ranked high, but I don't think he will do that consistently over a long period. Typically, players who lack discipline don't last long in any sport. I see him as Mike Tyson of tennis minus notable achievements yet.
http://www.abc.net.au/pm/stories/s314777.htm

Still, not as bad as Kyrgios.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
http://espn.go.com/tennis/story/_/i...-fined-obscenity-laced-outburst-shanghai-open

Kyrgios called the event a "circus" and complained about the "f---ing surface" during the match, slamming his racket. He also reportedly complained about the ball kids.

"They were talking in the middle of the points," Kyrgios said of cameramen during his match. "I was just expecting a lot more obviously from a Masters event. You're not going to see Roger [Federer] or Rafa [Rafael Nadal] playing on a court like that. They're always playing on center court, where things usually go pretty smoothly."
I understand what he is saying except for the part about the fing surface ????? what exactly is wrong with the surface ?? this is supposed to be premium hard courts with cushioning ,,,, I believe..... what type of hard court is it ?? decoturf ? rebound ace ?
 

Jokervich

Hall of Fame
He reminds me of Federer in his early days.
He really does. I remember Federer had really bad anger issues up until he was 21/22. He even said himself in an interview with Andy Roddick that he wished he had realised his potential 2 years earlier, but at the same time he was happy to get all the anger and frustration out his system early.


Starts at 2:50. I wonder if this is what we are seeing with Kyrgios? (sadly I suspect not, because Federer was a one-off in my opinion, but you never know)
 
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Definitely not as bad. Kyrgios is just at an all time level. Hewitt's comments were still relevant to the matches and he was just being too competitive, but Kyrgios seems easily distracted by other players, umpires, balls, ball kids, courts, or just about anything. He seriously needs psychiatric consultation, I think.
He's also a headcase and not that much of a fighter. He does fight to win when he knows he can beat his opponent (ranked lower or a good matchup for him) but when he knows he is going to lose he just gives in. Look at Wimbledon (Gasquet) for example. He has a lot of learning and maturing to do, and if he doesn't mature fast his window for success will slowly but surely close.
 

chjtennis

G.O.A.T.
He's also a headcase and not that much of a fighter. He does fight to win when he knows he can beat his opponent (ranked lower or a good matchup for him) but when he knows he is going to lose he just gives in. Look at Wimbledon (Gasquet) for example. He has a lot of learning and maturing to do, and if he doesn't mature fast his window for success will slowly but surely close.

I usually give plenty of time before making judgement on players (hey, I still believe Dimitrov will win slams!) but I am already quite sceptical about Kyrgios because of his attitude and lack of discipline. His kind of attitude will get him into unnecessary trouble and side track his career very often. He's still young and he may still change, but he is quickly turning into next Phillippoussis by each day.
 
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I usually give plenty of time before making judgement on players (hey, I still believe Dimitrov will win slams!) but I am already quite sceptical about Kyrgios because of his attitude and lack of discipline. His kind of attitude will get him into unnecessary trouble and side track his career very often. He's still young and he may still change, but he is quickly turning into next Phillippoussis by each day.
Agreed.
 

Kalin

Legend
Definitely not as bad. Kyrgios is just at an all time level. Hewitt's comments were still relevant to the matches and he was just being too competitive, but Kyrgios seems easily distracted by other players, umpires, ball kids, courts, or just about anything. He seriously needs psychiatric consultation, I think.

The one player that Nick K. really resembles in this aspect is billiards/pool legend Earl 'The Pearl' Strickland. Earl simply has to be involved with everything and everybody during his matches talking incessantly; to himself, to the opponent, to the fans, to the ref, to the table, to the balls and into general airspace. If he happens to be in a good mood (rarely) and winning (often) then it is generally OK. Once he starts losing then it is not fun watching him and he can get downright abusive while complaining about everything he can think of. It has been getting worse with age and now it is catching up to him really hard.

Earl is a legend of the game and one of the winningest players around with 5 US Opens and a slew of other great victories and even his act now has worn very thin. Once he got older and stopped winning regularly, sponsors and organizers started dropping him and he's considered by many to be more of an embarrassment than an asset to the sport... and this is a man who many consider the best ever at the game!!

Nick is still young and for his sake he has to learn how to cope with such minor (and yes, they are all minor) distractions or his game and reputation (and income) are only going to suffer. And he doesn't (yet) have the 5 US Opens that Earl has to fall back on.

Edit: I thought of Earl because Kyrgios also seems like he enjoys (just like Earl) the actual interaction with the opponent and the fans. Nick often congratulates opponents for a good shot or just throws inconsequential remarks at them that genuinely don't seem to be intended to distract the opponent; it just seems like an ingrained habit in his game. It is only when he gets irritated that all this turns into a farce and he, IMO, needs to work to restrain that for his own sake.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

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Smart scheduling by Big Nick.


The one player that Nick K. really resembles in this aspect is billiards/pool legend Earl 'The Pearl' Strickland. Earl simply has to be involved with everything and everybody during his matches talking incessantly; to himself, to the opponent, to the fans, to the ref, to the table, to the balls and into general airspace. If he happens to be in a good mood (rarely) and winning (often) then it is generally OK. Once he starts losing then it is not fun watching him and he can get downright abusive while complaining about everything he can think of. It has been getting worse with age and now it is catching up to him really hard.

Earl is a legend of the game and one of the winningest players around with 5 US Opens and a slew of other great victories and even his act now has worn very thin. Once he got older and stopped winning regularly, sponsors and organizers started dropping him and he's considered by many to be more of an embarrassment than an asset to the sport... and this is a man who many consider the best ever at the game!!

Nick is still young and for his sake he has to learn how to cope with such minor (and yes, they are all minor) distractions or his game and reputation (and income) are only going to suffer. And he doesn't (yet) have the 5 US Opens that Earl has to fall back on.

Edit: I thought of Earl because Kyrgios also seems like he enjoys (just like Earl) the actual interaction with the opponent and the fans. Nick often congratulates opponents for a good shot or just throws inconsequential remarks at them that genuinely don't seem to be intended to distract the opponent; it just seems like an ingrained habit in his game. It is only when he gets irritated that all this turns into a farce and he, IMO, needs to work to restrain that for his own sake.


Smart comparison.
 

The Green Mile

Bionic Poster
LOL, you just know he's gonna get vocal and emotional on the court, when things don't go his way. He always apologizes (better that way, even though he may not mean it), yet still does it frequently. Makes his matches even more entertaining.
 

AngieB

Banned
You mean #NastyNick (oh, his mother is Royalty? #delusional) hasn't even won a tournament but got a ban, already? #AustralianTennis used to be great when #Laver and his generation played. Now all we're left with is a bunch of winless #punks that want special treatment. #GirlBye

#PTL #JC4Ever

Angie
 
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Deleted member 688153

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Obviously nothing to happen to Kyrgios. If he gets any closer to the $5'000 fine, they'll put him up in a big *** mansion and offer him a free "egg cylinder" to stop swearing. ATP are soft as hell, absolute jokers.
Gotta protect that revenue stream.
 

Shangri La

Hall of Fame
http://espn.go.com/tennis/story/_/i...-fined-obscenity-laced-outburst-shanghai-open

Kyrgios called the event a "circus" and complained about the "f---ing surface" during the match, slamming his racket. He also reportedly complained about the ball kids.

"They were talking in the middle of the points," Kyrgios said of cameramen during his match. "I was just expecting a lot more obviously from a Masters event. You're not going to see Roger [Federer] or Rafa [Rafael Nadal] playing on a court like that. They're always playing on center court, where things usually go pretty smoothly."

He called the event a circus and he's playing. What does that make him?
 
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Gary Duane

Talk Tennis Guru
You mean #NastyNick (oh, his mother is Royalty? #delusional) hasn't even won a tournament but got a ban, already? #AustralianTennis used to be great when #Laver and his generation played. Now all we're left with is a bunch of winless #punks that want special treatment. #GirlBye

#PTL #JC4Ever

Angie
That old Aussie generation mostly kept their mouths shut and let their rackets do the talking. We could certainly use more of that now!
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
McEnroe, Connors and Nastase were all nasty SOB's on court, but they walked the walk and produced legit results. All of them were #1 players and dominant (especially Jimbo and Mac). What the hell has Kyrgios ever done in his career? Seriously.

It's like McEnroe being bullied by Boris in 1985, pre-Wimbledon and John said to him on court, "Hey, you have to WIN something before you get that 'tude."

Truer words were never spoken. Kyrgios is all show and no go. He really needs to STFU.
 

bjsnider

Hall of Fame
At first I thought I'd overcooked the post title, but it now seems inevitable that the suspension will go into effect, since Kyrgios doesn't seem capable of keeping his mouth shut in any of his matches.
 

ultradr

Legend
He really does. I remember Federer had really bad anger issues up until he was 21/22. He even said himself in an interview with Andy Roddick that he wished he had realised his potential 2 years earlier, but at the same time he was happy to get all the anger and frustration out his system early.


Starts at 2:50. I wonder if this is what we are seeing with Kyrgios? (sadly I suspect not, because Federer was a one-off in my opinion, but you never know)

I think 22 was perfect timing for Federer. 2003-2004.
A bit of late blooming turned out to be a blessing for Federer, IMHO.

There was huge shift in tennis 2003-2004: surface, tennis balls, tournament/ranking system.
It was the beginning of power baseline tennis, a seismic shift.
You do not want to be a top player and get caught up with that seismic shift in tour, like Hewitt, Nalbandian and Safin who realized potential earlier.
Federer rose to the top at perfect timing and defined the modern power baseline tennis on a new tour environment.
 

Druss

Hall of Fame
. He's still young and he may still change, but he is quickly turning into next Phillippoussis by each day.
Philipoussis did not have on court behavioural issues, in fact he was pretty cool. His issues were off court, just like Tomic now; fast cars, a plethora of women, parties and missing training.
 

chjtennis

G.O.A.T.
Philipoussis did not have on court behavioural issues, in fact he was pretty cool. His issues were off court, just like Tomic now; fast cars, a plethora of women, parties and missing training.

You are right. I was just talking more about wasting talent.
 

Harry_Wild

G.O.A.T.
4 week would a great break from the end of the tour right about now! Kryrios has great time is all I can say! LOL!
 
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