laserfibre flying or da fixed clamps

Lost my thread due to problems with software update.
I have ordered a Laserfibre MS200TT-ECO stringer with flying clamps and am now weighing getting double action fixed clamps for $180 more. Tim at Laserfibre said that I could update any time being that the current MS200TT-ECO is totally upgradeable. I would just have to pay the shipping cost of sending the flying clamps back and the fixed clamps over.
For another $170 I could also upgrade to the premium model which has the turntable lock and the Sensory Tension Jaw system. The ECO does have the Smart Weight Engineering dropweight system. Am not really considering the premium since I am new to stringing. Looking at stringing my son's and my racquets amounting to about 20 per year. Will consider stringing friends racquets as well.
 

ashpookie

Rookie
For the person (other LaserFibre owners too) who replied that he bought a LaserFibre, where did you get yours?
 

diredesire

Moderator
You may be talking about me, I got mine on the boards, actually, used! :)

Transferred the warranty through Tim, too. Not even a hassle.
 

whomprat

New User
I got my laserfibre a couple months ago. I ordered during the annual long wait period (may-july). I knew it would be a wait when I ordered, though. I upgraded from a klippermate and it shaved around 25 minutes off a string job right from the get go.

I'm thrilled with the machine. I got the fixed clamps, and I wouldn't go back to flying clamps, although I've read here that the LF flying clamps are very nice. The LF clamps require very little pressure to keep the string from slipping. The fixed make it easier, especially for ATW patterns, and my friend's head racquet has a fan pattern that's a PIA with flying clamps.

ken
whomprat
 

ashpookie

Rookie
whomprat said:
I got my laserfibre a couple months ago. I ordered during the annual long wait period (may-july). I knew it would be a wait when I ordered, though. I upgraded from a klippermate and it shaved around 25 minutes off a string job right from the get go.

So you did order direct from LaserFibre?
 

whomprat

New User
I ordered from Laserfibre directly. I spent many hours on the phone with Tim asking questions. He's very helpful.
 
Okay, that has been at least a couple of replies that said go for fixed clamps. Any thoughts about the premium with the turntable lock and sensory tension jaw system for another $170? Keep in mind that I am new to stringing. I am thinking of just going for the fixed clamps now.

Other than the laserfibre, my next choice is the Gamma Progression II 602FC. Anybody want to comment/compare these 2 machines?
 

Kevo

Legend
You can add the sensory jaw system later if you want. I don't know about the turntable lock, but I bet it can be added later also.
 
kevo,
do you own a laserfibre? any comments concerning flying versus fixed clamps? or the gamma progression II 602fc versus the laserfibre?
 

whomprat

New User
I have the arm lock (sensory system). Tim said they were discontinuing the old sensory tension system and will use the manual unlock to drop the arm. The one I have is like that, and I have to push down on the black knob to pull the string. He said the old system was finicky and would sometimes not drop with thin string gauges. It's not bad at all and it speeds up the process quite a bit. (5 minutes a racquet or so). In hindsite, I would have just paid the 800 bucks and got the premium and not worried about whether or not I should upgrade or not. I keep a log of my string jobs and the machine will be paid for in no time just doing some string jobs for friends.
 

diredesire

Moderator
whichmachine? said:
Okay, that has been at least a couple of replies that said go for fixed clamps. Any thoughts about the premium with the turntable lock and sensory tension jaw system for another $170? Keep in mind that I am new to stringing. I am thinking of just going for the fixed clamps now.

Other than the laserfibre, my next choice is the Gamma Progression II 602FC. Anybody want to comment/compare these 2 machines?

There's a turn table lock now? I own the MS200TT, and there's no brake. I don't see any mention of this on their website... anyone want to chime in on this one?

whichmachine? said:
kevo,
do you own a laserfibre? any comments concerning flying versus fixed clamps? or the gamma progression II 602fc versus the laserfibre?

Fixed clamps are going to make your jobs a lot more consistent, and they're just more solid overall, while being fixed to the base. Furthermore, like was mentioned above, they're useful for fan patterns, and widely spaced strings. Flying clamps are kind of limited in that regard. Laserfibre has what is reputed to be the best flying clamps in the industry, but IMO, if you're going to get flying clamps now, and upgrade later, you're just going to be spending more money. The starting clamps MAY come in handy later, for doing special patterns, or for splicing a string (kind of a hack job, though), but you'll still end up (probably) spending the extra money later. If you can save up, spend it now, and be done with it.

As far as the sensory jaw system, it's fairly useful, but I could live without it. Without the sensory jaw system, it is my understanding that you have to drop the weight all the way down, so it rests on the table after every pull. The only real setback here is that you have to lift and drop the weight all the way down and all the way up every time. This can add time to your job, and can be straining to your arm.

Comparison to the 602FC: Both are excellent machines, the Gamma has an excellent, solid mounting system and clamps. The major difference here is in the tensioner. The 602 FC has a rotating drum style gripper, which will require more string (more wasteful if you string off a reel). This can be a hassle when stringing the 18x20 racquets, and you don't have much extra string to work with in the first place.

Although the 602FC is a "constant pull" (some will debate this, but i won't go in depth into that), you need to get the drop weight level (90 degrees) for it to be truly at reference tension. This is a bit of a hassle because you may need to adjust your pumps each time, which takes longer (although many users become very proficient at this after a few dozen jobs).

Overall, if you are hesitant to spending all the extra money, the 602FC is a good machine, it will last you forever. The drawbacks are all in the tensioning system, and those drawbacks aren't even that big of a deal. I love my laserfibre because it is a one pull, true constant pull, the clamps are extremely easy to use, and I think the base locking system is very elegant and solid. The turn table and mounting system are very solidly built, and I prefer inside 6 pt mounts over outside (personal preference).
 
diredesire said:
There's a turn table lock now? I own the MS200TT, and there's no brake. I don't see any mention of this on their website... anyone want to chime in on this one?

Here's a copy of the email that I received from Laserfibre.
"The MS200TT-ECO and TT-Premium now look identical. The difference between the TT-ECO and TT-Premium is that the Premium version comes with a turntable lock and Sensory Tension Jaw System factory installed. Both of these features can add a little more convenience and stringing speed for those who handle more stringing volume. However, since the TT-ECO and TT ・ Premium use all the same components, those who start out with a TT-ECO, as need be can upgrade their machines by installing any or all of the features of the Premium version. It makes the TT-ECO the most ideal starter/entry level stringing machine because it is a machine that grows with you rather than you outgrowing it."

I looked at the Laserfibre web site and did not notice any mention of the turntable lock myself. So...????
 
ashpookie said:
Thanks. I'm now considering the Silent Partner e.stringer instead, lol.

I too was considering the SP e.stringer but have read a few thread talking about uneven tensioning due to voltage changes in the circuit that the machine is plugged into. Began leaning toward LF dropweights because they provide constant, consistent pull, are low tech, and low maintenance.

Have you heard of this uneven pull problem with some e stringers?
 

diredesire

Moderator
whichmachine? said:
I too was considering the SP e.stringer but have read a few thread talking about uneven tensioning due to voltage changes in the circuit that the machine is plugged into. Began leaning toward LF dropweights because they provide constant, consistent pull, are low tech, and low maintenance.

Have you heard of this uneven pull problem with some e stringers?

I used to own an e.stringer. I'm not sure if they've made changes to their electronics, but I never had an issue with their tensioner.
 

ashpookie

Rookie
Just found out that Silent Partner's warranties are not valid overseas. Guess I'll have to stick with Gamma then, they have a distributor locally.
 
diredesire said:
There's a turn table lock now? I own the MS200TT, and there's no brake. I don't see any mention of this on their website... anyone want to chime in on this one?

Don't know if anyone answered your question anywhere else, but yes I heard about this too, turntable lock is now standard on the "TT Premium" which is the MS200 TT that both you and I know and love.

I believe you could get the lock pretty easily added to your machine if you wanted it, you'd just need the newer base. If you end up getting this, please post about it, cost and how it went, I'm thinking about maybe doing it at some point myself...
 
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