Lateral Steppers

#1
I tried one of these out at the gym (Octane LX8000) and it provides a good but different workout. I noticed that going in one direction was a lot harder than the other and I'd guess that this is due to tennis. At any rate, it may be another cardio option at your gym
 
#2
I like the old Nordic Track skier. I have one made in the early 90’s before the company was sold to the Chinese and the products became crap. It’s a different movement than anything else.
 

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#3
I am reluctant about machines. It is machines that made us weaker. If you have a car, you don't walk. If you live in an apartment or work in building, you can walk the stairs, sideways if you want.
 

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#4
There is a thing that I cannot wrap my mind around. If you tell this to people in the past, they would think you are crazy.

"In the future, we will drive a car (It is a machine that allows us to move without walking) to the gym to get on a treadmill (it is a machine that allows us to walk without moving)."

People would think we are re-****ed.
 
#5
There is a thing that I cannot wrap my mind around. If you tell this to people in the past, they would think you are crazy.

"In the future, we will drive a car (It is a machine that allows us to move without walking) to the gym to get on a treadmill (it is a machine that allows us to walk without moving)."

People would think we are re-****ed.
Not really. The gym is a social and educational place as well as a place to work out. It has water, showers, bathrooms, first-aid facilities, personal trainers, instructions and equipment and resources that don't make sense for most on an individual basis.
 
#6
I am reluctant about machines. It is machines that made us weaker. If you have a car, you don't walk. If you live in an apartment or work in building, you can walk the stairs, sideways if you want.
Yes.

We should really learn how to fly from one place to another without the benefit of machines.
 

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#7
Yes.

We should really learn how to fly from one place to another without the benefit of machines.
If I know biology and anthropology, we already did. The human species came from Africa and walked and spread out to every corner of the Earth.
 
#11
Octane LX8000 price: $4,000 USD
Walking up and down, and sideways on stairs: $0.
Planet Fitness, $10/month, free pizza and bagels.

The Octane LX8000 has an entertainment center too so you can watch a show while you're working out. It's likely a lot safer as well.
 
#13
I reported your post for badgering. And you are not speaking intelligently.
It's my thread.

I think that reporting people for any reason is rather juvenile. You should be able to argue the merits with your own reasoning, debate and logic skills.
 

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#16
Do Ginger Rogers and Fred Astaire need an Octane LX8000?
The answer is no. Dancers are very aware of machines. Intimately aware of machines. Because machines are imitators, copycatters of dancers (people). Forget Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines. The fear of machines are immortalized in the ballets The Nutcracker and Coppélia, which I had the privilege to see at a local ballet school. Dancers are very aware of machines a century before you were born.
 
#18
The answer is no. Dancers are very aware of machines. Intimately aware of machines. Because machines are imitators, copycatters of dancers (people). Forget Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines. The fear of machines are immortalized in the ballet The Nutcracker and Coppélia, which I had the privilege to see at a local ballet school. Dancers are very aware of machines a century before you were born.
You don't know anything about machines.
 

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#22
You don't know anything about machines.
I've worked in a croissant factory, Vie De France, as a grave yard shift supervisor. A croissant factory is one giant kitchen. I felt like I was Jack and the Beanstalk and I walked into a giant kitchen. The mixer is identical to a a kitchen mixer, but the capacity is of a bath tub. The "toaster" is identical to a sliced bread toaster, the size of a truck. The refrigerator is the size of an apartment.

All the machines mimic the motion of one baker. A machine to mix. A machine to knead. A machine to shape. A machine to cut. A machine to roll. Etc . . . The process of baking is broken down into a step by step process in which different machines operate each step.

All of the machines is just an imitation of a person.
 
#28
I've worked in a croissant factory, Vie De France, as a grave yard shift supervisor. A croissant factory is one giant kitchen. I felt like I was Jack and the Beanstalk and I walked into a giant kitchen. The mixer is identical to a a kitchen mixer, but the capacity is of a bath tub. The "toaster" is identical to a sliced bread toaster, the size of a truck. The refrigerator is the size of an apartment.

All the machines mimic the motion of one baker. A machine to mix. A machine to knead. A machine to shape. A machine to cut. A machine to roll. Etc . . . The process of baking is broken down into a step by step process in which different machines operate each step.

All of the machines is just an imitation of a person.
Yes, you can use machines. Can you design and build them? Do you know about logistics, abstraction, language theory, discrete mathematics?

Could you write an operating system? A database query engine? Have you ever written a commercial artificial intelligence application?
 
#29
So you did not need a computer to play chess.
You don't need pieces or a board. I used to play blindfolded simultaneous chess. Guillotine. 5-minute, etc. Anyone can play. If you want to learn about machines, write a program to play.

If you want a really basic foundation, program The Game of Life. Really basic stuff but you get an idea of the simplest machines.
 

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Also in the video above, I think it is not idiotic to make a risky move dancing on the handrail. Our lives are so comfortable we forgot our animal past. For a mountain goat, that is every day! We forgot what it means to be alive.
 

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#50
Story time:

At work, in a meeting, during lunch. People were talking about their personal lives. One guy, he's not American. He has a son. He moved country to country and now he's in America; so English is not his son's first language. He has a kind of dyslexia.

Guy: So we got him a reader.
Another guy at work: What's a reader?
Me: A person who reads.

Another guy at work: Oh, I thought it's some kind of machine.
Guy: Oh they have them too. With a reader, his scores on tests dramatically improved.

That is a 100% true story. We are so attached to machines, that we forgot ourselves.
 
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