Laver congratulates Medvedev, refers to Novak as "one of the greatest", not the greatest, so this means he still consider Roger the GOAT ?

Dan Lobb

G.O.A.T.
Yes, Rod probably considers Fed one of the greatest still. That was Rod's position in 2018 at the Aussie Open, although Rod seemed to pick someone else as GOAT in January 2019.
 

Sunny014

Legend
"For me, I think Roger Federer is the champion of his era," Laver said. "I think he’s certainly, you know, you look at his record and there’s a lot to say he’s the best of all time."

"But give some of the other guys a little bit more time, maybe they’ll come up and meet and be as good as Roger," Laver added. "Djokovic is certainly on his way (along with Nadal), because he won a huge amount of tournaments and his consistency is amazing."


There were Rod's words sometime back, according to him Roger is still the GOAT even in 2021.
 

BGod

Legend
Being courteous considering the Big 3 media hype and all tied with 20 Slams.

Calling Djokovic as ‘one of the greatest’ is not a slight
Technically true but while being tied at 20 Slams he has more weeks at #1 (essentially guaranteed to keep), more YEs (likely to be 2 up), Double Career Slam and Double Career Masters (nobody with 1). Meanwhile Fed was routinely called THE greatest from winning 2009 French onwards. You can see the difference here yes?
 

norcal

Hall of Fame
This was Joker's time to rise above the rest and lay claim to GOAT. He barely put up a match, why would anyone anoint him GOAT after that performance?

Still co-GOAT with Roger and Rafa till he gets 21.
 

Sunny014

Legend
Being courteous considering the Big 3 media hype and all tied with 20 Slams.



Technically true but while being tied at 20 Slams he has more weeks at #1 (essentially guaranteed to keep), more YEs (likely to be 2 up), Double Career Slam and Double Career Masters (nobody with 1). Meanwhile Fed was routinely called THE greatest from winning 2009 French onwards. You can see the difference here yes?
I feel GOAT is a title attained with unparalleled dominance in his peak, it is not a title that one has to slowly earn by being an underdog, then toiling hard for many years and in the autumn of your career find some weird form and get past fiinish line, that is not GOAT...... the aura clearly missing

Federer within 5-6 years earned title of GOAT, that is the sorta thing that is special, Novak even after 10 years of dominating the tour relatively is not GOAT, thats for sure.
 

Fabresque

Hall of Fame
This was Joker's time to rise above the rest and lay claim to GOAT. He barely put up a match, why would anyone anoint him GOAT after that performance?

Still co-GOAT with Roger and Rafa till he gets 21.
Wimbledon 2019 was Federer’s time to rise above the rest and lay claim to GOAT. He put up a mental donkeyclass and lost to one of his biggest ever rivals, why would anyone anoint him GOAT after that performance?

Still co-GOAT till he gets 21 and beats Djokovic in a Wimbledon final.
 

Sunny014

Legend
Wimbledon 2019 was Federer’s time to rise above the rest and lay claim to GOAT. He put up a mental donkeyclass and lost to one of his biggest ever rivals, why would anyone anoint him GOAT after that performance?

Still co-GOAT till he gets 21 and beats Djokovic in a Wimbledon final.
Federer has been the GOAT since late 2000s and as on today he still is.
Which world are you living in to think that Roger is in the chase?
It is Roger who is being chased, Laver called Roger the GOAT in 2013 itself, google it.
 

Fabresque

Hall of Fame
Federer has been the GOAT since late 2000s until now
Which world are you living in to think that Roger is in the chase?
It is Roger who is being chased, Laver called Roger the GOAT in 2013 itself, google it.
Djokovic has been the GOAT since Wimbledon 2021 till now.
Which world are you living in to think that Novak is in the chase?
It is Novak who is being chased, Zverev, Medvedev, Thiem, and Agassi called Novak the GOAT dozens of times from 2018 onwards, google it.
 

Sunny014

Legend
Djokovic has been the GOAT since Wimbledon 2021 till now.
Which world are you living in to think that Novak is in the chase?
It is Novak who is being chased, Zverev, Medvedev, Thiem, and Agassi called Novak the GOAT dozens of times from 2018 onwards, google it.
Zverev, Medvedev, Thiem and all those are nothing compared to Laver, Mike Tyson and many legends who call Federer the GOAT.

Federer is still the GOAT and everyone knows it except you.
 

Fabresque

Hall of Fame
Zverev, Medvedev, Thiem and all those are nothing compared to Laver, Mike Tyson and many legends who call Federer the GOAT.

Federer is still the GOAT and everyone knows it except you.
Bro I’m pretty sure millions upon millions know that Djokovic is the GOAT lol. It’s all tied at 20 and Novak is ahead in literally every statistic except slams, where it’s tied. Masters? More. Weeks at no.1? More. NCYS? Fed doesn’t have it, Djokovic does. 4 slams in a row? Djokovic has it, Fed doesn’t. Double career masters? Djokovic has it, Fed doesn’t. Highest win %? Djokovic has it, Fed doesn’t.

I could go on and on, only thing Federer has over Djokovic is he looks pretty when he plays lol. Don’t be dense.
 

Sunny014

Legend
Bro I’m pretty sure millions upon millions know that Djokovic is the GOAT lol. It’s all tied at 20 and Novak is ahead in literally every statistic except slams, where it’s tied. Masters? More. Weeks at no.1? More. NCYS? Fed doesn’t have it, Djokovic does. 4 slams in a row? Djokovic has it, Fed doesn’t. Double career masters? Djokovic has it, Fed doesn’t. Highest win %? Djokovic has it, Fed doesn’t.

I could go on and on, only thing Federer has over Djokovic is he looks pretty when he plays lol. Don’t be dense.
These stats are worthless because he has been under the shadow of Federer throughout his life
Forever he shall either be below or he shall be a co-goat if he crosses in slams

There is being solo GOAT, that ship sailed long ago in his peak
 

Fabresque

Hall of Fame
These stats are worthless because he has been under the shadow of Federer throughout his life
Forever he shall either be below or he shall be a co-goat if he crosses in slams

There is being solo GOAT, that ship sailed long ago in his peak
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You actually have no clue about tennis bro, I’m not discussing it with you anymore.
 

pj80

Hall of Fame
Federer has been the GOAT since late 2000s and as on today he still is.
Which world are you living in to think that Roger is in the chase?
It is Roger who is being chased, Laver called Roger the GOAT in 2013 itself, google it.
Medvedev said Novak is GOAT....I believe him.
 

Dan Lobb

G.O.A.T.
Federer has been the GOAT since late 2000s and as on today he still is.
Which world are you living in to think that Roger is in the chase?
It is Roger who is being chased, Laver called Roger the GOAT in 2013 itself, google it.
In 2019 Laver chose another player as GOAT, a player from an earlier era.
 

Sunny014

Legend
Guys like HOAD are totally nobodies, such guys cannot be considered relevant now.

IMO only 4 guys now any claim over GOAT arguments

Federer (The guy who has been GOAT from late 00s until now)
Djokovic (The current challenger)
Nadal (Clay GOAT)
Sampras (Ex GOAT)
 

Dan Lobb

G.O.A.T.
Guys like HOAD are totally nobodies, such guys cannot be considered relevant now.

IMO only 4 guys now any claim over GOAT arguments

Federer (The guy who has been GOAT from late 00s until now)
Djokovic (The current challenger)
Nadal (Clay GOAT)
Sampras (Ex GOAT)
Doesn't matter what you think, that was Laver's choice in 2019.

Read the title of this thread above. Your question is answered.
 

pj80

Hall of Fame
We worship Federer as usual, nothing more to do.
First time I ever saw Fed was in person at the 1999 USO Qualies...I had no idea at the time that he would have such an impact for decades to come, If I had any idea I would have recorded the whole match...but I didn't even watch the match, only saw the warmup and then I moved on to different match. It wasn't until his 2nd round match (vs Hoiberger) that I realized Fed was Fed as I assumed his 1st round opponent was prolly Federer.
 
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