rogerroger917
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Or post results of your players. Ask them to give testimonials. Rankings and college teams they play on.
Learning The Mental Game Faster
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rogerroger917
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Are you a tennis coach or some scam pyramid scheme marketer. Tennis coaches are in court not peddling articles in this forum.
rogerroger917
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Thin skin. I would love to learn how to melt down and lose it mentally. That's about all you have shown.
thomas daniels
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I wasn't marketing!!! I was just giving useful tips!!! I already have a successful business my friend.
thomas daniels
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I'm a tennis consultant, the title for tennis tips, so that's was I shared!! This is what is wrong with coaching in our game right now, you can't share information. Also I welcome any debate, anytime !!
Well good for you. I was convinced you were a fraud till I saw your article from 3 years ago eulogizing Vic Braden. So no doubt you've been doing this for a long time and also have a good sense of history. Maybe more concise tips, more videos, less generic 'warrior mentality' talk might serve you well, if you're really trying to help here. In any case, losing your cool at people questioning you, won't help. All the best.
rogerroger917
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I'm a tennis consultant too. If you don't understand it is because you are not advanced enough.... Lol.
rogerroger917
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Jesus resurrection method. Read my blog. The bible.
thomas daniels
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Okay, and I will write a bio now.
vex
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rogerroger917
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Also post recipe for a good french toast breakfast while you are at it. Since you are taking requests from members of this forum.
BaddJordan
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OP is out of control. There is no hard evidence to suggest your method is th me best, no pros that can vouch for you. And your communication to us is like you're a mall salesmen.
You say you're a student of the mental game yet you act like a master of it, but with no results of significant (atp players). Why would anyone buy a tennis book not from someone at a high atp/wta level, or at least can vouch for you. You're a student like us, and so is every other tennis player.
You say you're a student of the mental game yet you act like a master of it, but with no results of significant (atp players). Why would anyone buy a tennis book not from someone at a high atp/wta level, or at least can vouch for you. You're a student like us, and so is every other tennis player.
Ash_Smith
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Like I said in my post, "unless you have a newer blog which I could't find" - which obviously I couldn't as when I googled you a link to your old blog came up. You write a lot about marketing apparently - you might want to sort your SEO out!
You also might want to do some box breathing and calm down a bit - we are actually on the same page, I too am a coach who places a great deal of emphasis of mental toughness. When you work with elite players the differences between technical skills and tactical awareness narrow as you get closer to the top of the rankings, so quite often the difference between a gold medal and no medal is the bit between the ears.
As a proponent of coaching and the mental game you should be open to people asking difficult questions of you or your "system" - it's how you develop as a person and as a coach. I've probably been coaching as long, if not longer than you, with a higher level of player and I've been privileged enough to work with some of the best coaches in the world (across many sports, not just tennis) and with some of the worlds best SSSM practitioners. Working with coaches at that level you can see how open they are to being questioned and debating what they do and how they do it. That's why they are good. The only thing I know for certain is that I don't know everything and I don't have the perfect "system", but I work everyday to be a little bit better than yesterday.
If I ask a question it's because I'm interested in your point of view/perspective, I'm not trying to catch you out (unless it turns out that you're trolling or a charlatan, in which case I will call you out because the sports coaching industry sadly has too many of those
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thomas daniels
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My content is solid and is tested, so I stand by it(I have already sold tons of ebooks so,it is what it is, Sing asked about a book and I shared the link, and I'm just sold on my coaching philosophy, try to get to the point faster, with less words too my friend. Would love to debate you guys one day!!Like I said in my post, "unless you have a newer blog which I could't find" - which obviously I couldn't as when I googled you a link to your old blog came up. You write a lot about marketing apparently - you might want to sort your SEO out!
You also might want to do some box breathing and calm down a bit - we are actually on the same page, I too am a coach who places a great deal of emphasis of mental toughness. When you work with elite players the differences between technical skills and tactical awareness narrow as you get closer to the top of the rankings, so quite often the difference between a gold medal and no medal is the bit between the ears.
As a proponent of coaching and the mental game you should be open to people asking difficult questions of you or your "system" - it's how you develop as a person and as a coach. I've probably been coaching as long, if not longer than you, with a higher level of player and I've been privileged enough to work with some of the best coaches in the world (across many sports, not just tennis) and with some of the worlds best SSSM practitioners. Working with coaches at that level you can see how open they are to being questioned and debating what they do and how they do it. That's why they are good. The only thing I know for certain is that I don't know everything and I don't have the perfect "system", but I work everyday to be a little bit better than yesterday.
If I ask a question it's because I'm interested in your point of view/perspective, I'm not trying to catch you out (unless it turns out that you're trolling or a charlatan, in which case I will call you out because the sports coaching industry sadly has too many of those
treblings
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well, since you mentioned it in your first post in this thread. is it something you learned during your time in Japan?
how is it different to other meditation techniques?
Do you teach it to your students?
Ash_Smith
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Great, let's debate now...
You say your content is tried and tested - to what level and what criteria are you using to measure it's effectiveness?
Or, if you'd prefer over on your second serve thread where you could maybe reason out how you came to 700 serves per session?
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rogerroger917
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Ready set go. Debate. [emoji3]
thomas daniels
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Shukugaw high school(Sawamatsu/ Okamoto/ and Tarumi indoor Miyu Kato studied with me(She was in the AO doubles finals. Call Hyogo Tennis association and ask them who took 100 plus juniors from no ranking to the top 20 here in kobe!!! You will need someone who speak japanese. I also do a coaching corner for kansai juniors every month and I will invite you guys on after I talk to Nakayama today. I would suggest many of you, to get ready to get roasted too!! I never talk about anything, that I can't back up my friend!!
thomas daniels
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Yes, sorry, I got distracted by the negative comments. It started when I learn about Budo training, which lead to me studying under Master Shinoichi, who is a master sensei in (Chi Kung- harnessing your energy), this then lead to Mushin- no mind mindfulness, Fudoshin- immovable mind, Zhanshin- alert mind for domination. These are powerful eastern teaching, that I have studied for 10 years and then adopted and adapted to my coaching philosophy, and created (In Your Face Tennis). The sad thing is, none of these guys who are commenting, know anything about these mind powering techniques!!
Why would you expect people to know?
Also, you say you're not selling anything and that you have a thriving tennis related business, but you are also throwing out your website name unnecessarily. Maybe subconsciously, but you need to stop doing that.
There are plenty of threads here where folks are asking for advice, asking to critique their videos. Give advice in those threads, instead of just starting random threads. Some might like the advice, many might not. It doesn't matter. Not everyone has to like what you say. Based on the strength of your advice let folks who like it, seek you out if that's your intent. If you just want to give out advice, and are not really looking for anything back, that's fine. As I said, there are plenty of opportunities here to do that in a very specific manner.
thomas daniels
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I just joined, so I didn' know, but will try to follow those rules.
treblings
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thanks for taking the time to answer
i´m in the middle of a tournament, so i couldn´t comment sooner. would you say, with your experience, that learning how to meditate is something that needs a teacher, or can it be done by studying books and videos?
shamaho
Professional
Hi. Thanks for your post, it scratches the surface of deep stuff, hard to synthetize in a single post, anyway I have couple of questions:
1. Concentrate better during practice - define or elaborate on "concentrate" because it can be a lot of different things for different people.
1.a - Actually Federer loses quite a few of them (parctice matches and champions) ;-) on most practices he's so laid back, half-playing half-joking, not fully commited... just relaxed... so that goes somewhat against you initial premise (even though I agree with it - just can't quite reconcile with what I see with that particular instance of player)
2. about letting go and warrior meditation
So... you're down 4/5 and its 30/40 - and for the last 4 or 5 matches - you always blow this point, handing over the match...
Negativity has no other way, it just creeps in, it's there, there's no denying that the past pattern is there, then you push it aside... (my variation on your letting go), and you end up handing the match on an unforced error ANYWAY.
oh and do assume that all the following HAS in fact been done:
"Watch your thoughts and observe your reactions during practice or a match, and the minute you find yourself thinking about a mistake or an error, quickly bring yourself back to the present moment, by breathing deeply and then focus on the next point." [OP]
so 2.a) can you let go of the negativity on this repeating pattern, that just seems to be reinforcing itself ?
2.b) isn't making one single outburst to get the negativity out of your system the same as letting go?
2.c) how yould you let go before serve in that situation?
2.d) is the warrior meditation done in 5 secs before you serve ? how (give us just a gist of it)
Actually, I think that there's one missing piece in your advice of
"Watch your thoughts and observe your reactions" which is feel your body for tenseness, be aware of your emotions...
I say it's missing because that was the missing piece for me, going over thoughts alone did NOT help a thing... until I started being aware of emotions reflecting the the body...
cheers
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Limpinhitter
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Donnybrook? How many aliases do you have at one time?
rogerroger917
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? I'm Roger from NJ.
thomas daniels
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thanks for taking the time to answer
would you say, with your experience, that learning how to meditate is something that needs a teacher, or can it be done by studying books and videos?
You don't need a teacher. Just study the books and practice daily. Also, Budo Training is more deeper and internal, it's on a whole new level for competition. So, start with warrior meditation. "This is when you free yourself from thought using your breath as your anchor and then imprinting a (warrior image) on your subconscious mind. The imprinting is what players and people, don't understand. Example,(you can't do this just once or twice a day) you should do WM for 3 quick minutes to 6!!! And do this throughout the day. WM takes 1 to 2 months to work. Hope that helps.
thomas daniels
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You covered a lot there. I'll tell you my coaching story and what I did to help my juniors back in the day. They would have great practices leading up to their matches , and then they would just choke in their matches!! Also, Japan has a group/team mentality culture. So, after my friend introduced me to Budo Training, I had my coaching philosophy breakthrough, which was, ( They are not playing tennis, they are playing the MENTAL game)!!! This is what players and coaches don't get. When any player starts competing and reaches a certain level, they will stop playing tennis and start playing the mental game. And this is why they struggle in their competitive careers!! Now in your case, you were actually playing the match many times in your mind, before you actually played it and this is a big problem for many players. Solution= Mushin Mindset!! Hope that helps my friend!!
Can you tell me your journey from being a very good high school player, to playing on the pro tour for a few years.
StringSnapper
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thomas daniels
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Yea, I was born in 1966, so that tell you my age. Jim Corbert introduce the game to me and some other inner city kids when I was 8 years old. He was Arthur Ashe training partner, there were a lot of great black coaches from the St. Louis area and that helped me improved fast. I was all state in high school in the 80s, then I went to college for 1 year, and turn pro, the system was different back then. Most players didn't even go to college, they turned pro at 14!!! I struggle though, travel with 2 other guys and stayed in 1 room hotels on the semi-pro tour for 2 years!! But I finally started to make progress and had a car accident and my career was finished. My only regret is not knowing, about the mental game earlier, other than that. It's been a great ride, thanks for reading too.
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