Lendl said it, and he is very credible

Sport

G.O.A.T.
At the Hopman Cup she seemed to be very pro-Federer as well. She singled him out as the one player which whom she always wanted to be on the same court. I don’t think she would have acted that way if she thought Nadal or Djokovic are better.
Ask Serena again in 2025.
 

axlrose

Professional
"Before 1968 Wimbledon, it's Rod Laver and after '68 Wimbledon it's Roger Federer. You have two different eras. You cannot compare it, because players turned professional, while before not all of them were allowed to play Grand Slams".

LOL, so Fred is not the UNDISPUTED Greatest of All Time, like 99% of his fans believe.

How dare you, Ivan?!

:-D:-D:-D
 

ChrisRF

Hall of Fame
Ask Serena again in 2025.
What should be different then? Of course, maybe Nadal or Djokovic will indeed have overtaken Federer, but then it would be obvious to anyone and not only to Serena.

So why is Serena’s opinion that special that the other poster had to mention her, despite she actually seems to have the same opinion as Lendl right now.
 

flanker2000fr

Hall of Fame
He created some crazy angles with the Adidas GTX. That racquet is a joke, not only the tiny headsize (80sqi if I remember exactly) , but the ridiculous head shape as well.

:)
75 sq. in. to be precise. And yes, Lendl's forehand was incredible, one of the best I've seen. I do believe, though, that Federer's has more variation / creativity. Lendl's was a bit mechanical, and less well suited to grass.
 

KG1965

Legend
"Before 1968 Wimbledon, it's Rod Laver and after '68 Wimbledon it's Roger Federer."

Lendl expresses the concept well but does not hit the target.:(

Before 1968 Wimbledon, Laver was not the greatest, perhaps not even among the top 4.
Pancho Gonzalez was the greatest.
Laver was also an incredible tennis player because he won a lot in the Open Era.
Ivan could say this: among the players who played in the pre-Open Era Laver was the greatest.
 

big ted

Hall of Fame
i think its pretty clear that roger is the greatest as of now...
rafa or novak may overtake him but they havent yet
and thats all there is to it...
 
"Before 1968 Wimbledon, it's Rod Laver and after '68 Wimbledon it's Roger Federer."

Lendl expresses the concept well but does not hit the target.:(

Before 1968 Wimbledon, Laver was not the greatest, perhaps not even among the top 4.
Pancho Gonzalez was the greatest.
Laver was also an incredible tennis player because he won a lot in the Open Era.
Ivan could say this: among the players who played in the pre-Open Era Laver was the greatest.
He probably meant the guys that had the bulk of their careers before 1968. As anyone reasonable would agree, nothing Earth-shattering happened with the competition between 1968 and 1969.

:cool:
 

smoledman

G.O.A.T.
Didn't Mac say after 2016 RG that Novak was the greatest ever? That guy changes his tune every time one of the Big 3 is on a huge winning streak. He's a joke.

2009 Wimbledon - Roger is the greatest evar!
2013 US Open - Nadal is the greatest evar!
2016 RG - Novak is the greatest evar!
2019 - Run a lottery to decide
 

True Fanerer

G.O.A.T.
Didn't Mac say after 2016 RG that Novak was the greatest ever? That guy changes his tune every time one of the Big 3 is on a huge winning streak. He's a joke.

2009 Wimbledon - Roger is the greatest evar!
2013 US Open - Nadal is the greatest evar!
2016 RG - Novak is the greatest evar!
2019 - Run a lottery to decide
Don't remember that. Maybe meat & potatoes brother Patrick.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
Didn't Mac say after 2016 RG that Novak was the greatest ever? That guy changes his tune every time one of the Big 3 is on a huge winning streak. He's a joke.

2009 Wimbledon - Roger is the greatest evar!
2013 US Open - Nadal is the greatest evar!
2016 RG - Novak is the greatest evar!
2019 - Run a lottery to decide
Nothing tops his remarks prior to the FO 2007 when he said, "if Roger wins this, he's GOAT, no question." Even though Roger only had 7 slams at the time. Followed up with the most asinine tennis remark possibly ever made: "Rafa's the best volleyer of anyone out there." :rolleyes:
 

a10best

Hall of Fame
Safe to say this ranks above Karlovic and Tipsarevic opinions.
Lendl is not biased like Tipsarevic (Serbia) or Karlovic (Croatian but adjacent country). Lendl is Czech and American and an all-time great.
I believe Lendl and not some random journeyman players in Djokovic's home country or people who are prisoners of the moment.
 

smoledman

G.O.A.T.
Nothing tops his remarks prior to the FO 2007 when he said, "if Roger wins this, he's GOAT, no question." Even though Roger only had 7 slams at the time. Followed up with the most asinine tennis remark possibly ever made: "Rafa's the best volleyer of anyone out there." :rolleyes:
Rafa is a better volleyer now than 10 years ago, but he's not even in the top 50 of volleys. He's really good at putting away balls that are already above the net, like everyone. The balls at his feet, I rarely seen him even attempt those much less pull them off.
 

Nadalgaenger

G.O.A.T.
Didn't Mac say after 2016 RG that Novak was the greatest ever? That guy changes his tune every time one of the Big 3 is on a huge winning streak. He's a joke.

2009 Wimbledon - Roger is the greatest evar!
2013 US Open - Nadal is the greatest evar!
2016 RG - Novak is the greatest evar!
2019 - Run a lottery to decide
Completely agree. Guy’s basically a troll. He may even poast among us!
 

RaulRamirez

Legend
I'm not sure what this short article proves, as would an article quoting a current or former player proclaiming Rafa, Novak, Pete or Bjorn as best of the OE.

It appears that Lendl (perhaps, 6th best of the OE and still around the tour as a prominent coach) was mostly speaking to the difficulty of comparing players of the OE to those who preceded them. Most assume that Fed is the best of the OE, and Lendl is no different. If The Big 3 all retired today, I'd probably concur with his assessment.
 

wangs78

Hall of Fame
Lendl makes a point I have made many times before about why Roger should be the GOAT even if the Big 3 each end up with around the same number of Slams (within 1 or 2).

Roger has spent his entire career doing things that no one else has. Whether it is setting Slam records. Winning 3 Slams in a year 3 separate times, Winning 3 Slams and the WTF 5x or more. Playing deep into his 30s and staying generally in the Top 3 or 4. Reclaiming #1 at age 36. His accomplishments have SMASHED previous records for the most part. He also has successfully changed up his game multiple times to keep winning, which no one of his stature has really done before. He did all of this without anyone blazing the trail for him, which is HUGE.

When I think of Djokovic, he hasn't done anything new or ground breaking. Sure he has won 4 Slams in a row but to me that's not that different from Fed winning 3 Slams and making the final for the one he didn't win (the FO), where he always lost to the greatest clay courter of all time. Nadal and his 10 or 11 (I lost count) FOs are truly incredible. But the rest of his resume is not breathtaking, and in comparison to Roger, not by a long shot.

Fed really redefined what is possible in men's tennis. No one else can say they have done that.
 
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tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
I'm not sure what this short article proves, as would an article quoting a current or former player proclaiming Rafa, Novak, Pete or Bjorn as best of the OE.

It appears that Lendl (perhaps, 6th best of the OE and still around the tour as a prominent coach) was mostly speaking to the difficulty of comparing players of the OE to those who preceded them. Most assume that Fed is the best of the OE, and Lendl is no different. If The Big 3 all retired today, I'd probably concur with his assessment.
As it stands today, many people concur with Lendl's assessment Fed is the best of the OE.

There will be a Zverev , Tsitsipas , Shapavalov or some other player who will beat Federer or Djokovic or Nadal's record. So, it is always a point at a time assessment and there is no need to wait for a time until all of Fed, Nadal and Djoker retire.
 

Luka888

Professional
I don't know what to say here but I want Janko's glasses. The coolest guy on the tour :).

Yeah, Fed is great and I don't even know what we are talking about here lol.
 
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