Lendl & Zverev?

marc45

G.O.A.T.
Breaking News: Zverev Working With Lendl in Tampa

· Posted by Scoop Malinowski in Scoop

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A source has revealed that Alexander Zverev is currently working this week with tennis legend Ivan Lendl.

The two were photographed at the famous tennis resort Saddlebrook and are working together. It’s not known if a long term deal has been agreed to between Lendl and Zverev or if this partnership is just a short term union.

Ivan Lendl is the former ATP world no. 1 and a multiple grand slam champion Hall of Famer. He previously coached Andy Murray to his first major title wins.

Zverev is currently ranked number 3 by the ATP but has yet to achieve any notable success in grand slam play. The 21-year-old German has won eight ATP singles titles but his best result in a major was quarterfinals at Roland Garros this year. So far, the talented Zverev has won three Masters 1000 titles, two last year in Rome and Canada and this year in Madrid.


https://www.tennis-prose.com/articles/scoop/breaking-news-zverev-working-with-lendl-in-tampa/
 

ibbi

G.O.A.T.
If he can do with him what he did with Murray he will officially be GOAT.

P.S. Is that a child or a midget in the middle?
 

N01E

Hall of Fame
Doesn't he train with Murray's previous fitness coach? Now he just needs to team up with Feliciano in doubles and Judy's his aswell.
 

papertank

Hall of Fame
Lendl got Murray to grow up, so maybe he can make Zverev do just that as well.

There are some similarities between the two. Both have trouble at the grand slam level, largely due to making matches that they should win really easily very complicated.
 

Goosehead

Legend
Breaking News: Zverev Working With Lendl in Tampa

· Posted by Scoop Malinowski in Scoop

37592881_422153458269003_7989769030426689536_n.jpg



A source has revealed that Alexander Zverev is currently working this week with tennis legend Ivan Lendl.

The two were photographed at the famous tennis resort Saddlebrook and are working together. It’s not known if a long term deal has been agreed to between Lendl and Zverev or if this partnership is just a short term union.

Ivan Lendl is the former ATP world no. 1 and a multiple grand slam champion Hall of Famer. He previously coached Andy Murray to his first major title wins.

Zverev is currently ranked number 3 by the ATP but has yet to achieve any notable success in grand slam play. The 21-year-old German has won eight ATP singles titles but his best result in a major was quarterfinals at Roland Garros this year. So far, the talented Zverev has won three Masters 1000 titles, two last year in Rome and Canada and this year in Madrid.


https://www.tennis-prose.com/articles/scoop/breaking-news-zverev-working-with-lendl-in-tampa/
wtf happened to shapovalov in the middle ?..must be the incredible shrinking man.
 

Pheasant

Legend
Lendl did wonders for Murray. When Lendl rejoined Murray in 2016, he said that Murray could be #1. That seemed outrageous, considering that Novak had the biggest lead ever over a #2 opponent. Lendl gave Murray confidence.

Lendl coached Murray for exactly 3 years over his 2 stints. Under Lendl’s watch, Murray won all 3 of his slam titles, both of his Olympic gold medals, and his only WTF title.

Let’s see what Lendl can do with Zverev. Lendl is one of those guys that I despised when I was younger, mainly because he beat up on my childhood hero Mac. But as I have gotten older, I have learned to really respect him as player and coach. I think it would be an awesome story if Zverev thrived under Lendl.
 
Lendl did wonders for Murray. When Lendl rejoined Murray in 2016, he said that Murray could be #1. That seemed outrageous, considering that Novak had the biggest lead ever over a #2 opponent. Lendl gave Murray confidence.

Lendl coached Murray for exactly 3 years over his 2 stints. Under Lendl’s watch, Murray won all 3 of his slam titles, both of his Olympic gold medals, and his only WTF title.

Let’s see what Lendl can do with Zverev. Lendl is one of those guys that I despised when I was younger, mainly because he beat up on my childhood hero Mac. But as I have gotten older, I have learned to really respect him as player and coach. I think it would be an awesome story if Zverev thrived under Lendl.

See my post above. Lendl isn’t coaching Zverev.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Sky_Moritz/status/1021763687810560003
 

flanker2000fr

Hall of Fame
Lendl would be a better coach for Thiem. Their playing styles are very similar, but Dominic will never leave Gunter.

I think Lendl can do really well for Zverev, but agree he could do wonders for Thiem, who reminds me a lot about the younger Lendl (pre 1984). Same inability to change a game plan and same lack of variety. It's only when he added variations to his game (and stepped up his conditioning dramatically), that he started to win slams.
 

Chanwan

G.O.A.T.
Wrote this in another thread and thought it fits better. @Meles @Gary Duane @falstaff78 - you gotta like (or dislike) his return stats with so much room to improve in the hold game.

Here's the definitive case for why Zverev will make it big:
- still just 21,5 - for comparison, Fed had 2 slam QF's and one Masters win as his best results at that age iirc
- he's got Lendl in his corner. Lendl wouldn't be there, if he didn't see the potential
-> look what Lendl did to Andy's forehand
- his BH is already world class
- he moves very well for a tall guy
- he can serve as big as the biggest servers, just needs to add a bit more placement and consistency
- he's 9-5 in finals, indicating a certain amount of mental toughness under pressure
- he's been winning 28 % of his return games in 2018, 5 % up from 2017. That's a great number for a big guy.
- his hold game has been a mere 82 % in 2018 - that's very bad for a guy that tall who's as capable from the back court as he is
-> yet he still leads the tour in match wins. Clearly there's room for improvement here with a Lendl-improved forehand after the serve and a better serve
- he's 41,7 % vs. top-10 players. Now I realize that number has been attained in the career inflation era, but it's still up there with Delpo (40,8) and better than Stan (37,1).
- he's a child of the transition era. More or less, there are no great players in their 20's. Opportunities will come his way

Conclusion: Like it or not, this kid is going places.
 

Pheasant

Legend
Wrote this in another thread and thought it fits better. @Meles @Gary Duane @falstaff78 - you gotta like (or dislike) his return stats with so much room to improve in the hold game.

Here's the definitive case for why Zverev will make it big:
- still just 21,5 - for comparison, Fed had 2 slam QF's and one Masters win as his best results at that age iirc
- he's got Lendl in his corner. Lendl wouldn't be there, if he didn't see the potential
-> look what Lendl did to Andy's forehand
- his BH is already world class
- he moves very well for a tall guy
- he can serve as big as the biggest servers, just needs to add a bit more placement and consistency
- he's 9-5 in finals, indicating a certain amount of mental toughness under pressure
- he's been winning 28 % of his return games in 2018, 5 % up from 2017. That's a great number for a big guy.
- his hold game has been a mere 82 % in 2018 - that's very bad for a guy that tall who's as capable from the back court as he is
-> yet he still leads the tour in match wins. Clearly there's room for improvement here with a Lendl-improved forehand after the serve and a better serve
- he's 41,7 % vs. top-10 players. Now I realize that number has been attained in the career inflation era, but it's still up there with Delpo (40,8) and better than Stan (37,1).
- he's a child of the transition era. More or less, there are no great players in their 20's. Opportunities will come his way

Conclusion: Like it or not, this kid is going places.

That was a great analysis. I like your work and you are a breath of fresh air around here.
 
Wait, your first language isn't English? I had no idea until this post. Your English is at a very high level indeed.

(I infer it from the repeated use of commas in place of periods to mark decimal points, e.g. saying Zverev is 21,5 rather than 21.5).

Good post also! Looks good for Zverev going forward. A big question in the short term is whether he can regain his energy in time to improve his Slam results in Australia. Otherwise he'll be 22 before he even makes a Slam semi, which is at least a small cause for concern.

Wrote this in another thread and thought it fits better. @Meles @Gary Duane @falstaff78 - you gotta like (or dislike) his return stats with so much room to improve in the hold game.

Here's the definitive case for why Zverev will make it big:
- still just 21,5 - for comparison, Fed had 2 slam QF's and one Masters win as his best results at that age iirc
- he's got Lendl in his corner. Lendl wouldn't be there, if he didn't see the potential
-> look what Lendl did to Andy's forehand
- his BH is already world class
- he moves very well for a tall guy
- he can serve as big as the biggest servers, just needs to add a bit more placement and consistency
- he's 9-5 in finals, indicating a certain amount of mental toughness under pressure
- he's been winning 28 % of his return games in 2018, 5 % up from 2017. That's a great number for a big guy.
- his hold game has been a mere 82 % in 2018 - that's very bad for a guy that tall who's as capable from the back court as he is
-> yet he still leads the tour in match wins. Clearly there's room for improvement here with a Lendl-improved forehand after the serve and a better serve
- he's 41,7 % vs. top-10 players. Now I realize that number has been attained in the career inflation era, but it's still up there with Delpo (40,8) and better than Stan (37,1).
- he's a child of the transition era. More or less, there are no great players in their 20's. Opportunities will come his way

Conclusion: Like it or not, this kid is going places.
 

Chanwan

G.O.A.T.
Wait, your first language isn't English? I had no idea until this post. Your English is at a very high level indeed.

(I infer it from the repeated use of commas in place of periods to mark decimal points, e.g. saying Zverev is 21,5 rather than 21.5).

Good post also! Looks good for Zverev going forward. A big question in the short term is whether he can regain his energy in time to improve his Slam results in Australia. Otherwise he'll be 22 before he even makes a Slam semi, which is at least a small cause for concern.
And I had no idea that 21.0 would be the correct way to write it in English - but thanks! (I'm quite sure I make my fair share of mistakes nevertheless)
True - but even so, he'll be 22 with no players in their 20's above him. That's a pretty good position no matter how you put it. I would expect some kind of a breakthrough from him in the slams in 2019. And I'm sure he and Lendl do too
 

falstaff78

Hall of Fame
Wrote this in another thread and thought it fits better. @Meles @Gary Duane @falstaff78 - you gotta like (or dislike) his return stats with so much room to improve in the hold game.

Here's the definitive case for why Zverev will make it big:
- still just 21,5 - for comparison, Fed had 2 slam QF's and one Masters win as his best results at that age iirc
- he's got Lendl in his corner. Lendl wouldn't be there, if he didn't see the potential
-> look what Lendl did to Andy's forehand
- his BH is already world class
- he moves very well for a tall guy
- he can serve as big as the biggest servers, just needs to add a bit more placement and consistency
- he's 9-5 in finals, indicating a certain amount of mental toughness under pressure
- he's been winning 28 % of his return games in 2018, 5 % up from 2017. That's a great number for a big guy.
- his hold game has been a mere 82 % in 2018 - that's very bad for a guy that tall who's as capable from the back court as he is
-> yet he still leads the tour in match wins. Clearly there's room for improvement here with a Lendl-improved forehand after the serve and a better serve
- he's 41,7 % vs. top-10 players. Now I realize that number has been attained in the career inflation era, but it's still up there with Delpo (40,8) and better than Stan (37,1).
- he's a child of the transition era. More or less, there are no great players in their 20's. Opportunities will come his way

Conclusion: Like it or not, this kid is going places.

Fantastic. Thanks
 

Chanwan

G.O.A.T.
Fantastic. Thanks
Just imagine him serving like he was until the end of the first vs. Djoko and so far has been serving vs. Isner on a regular basis. And add a Lendl-improved forehand and added aggression in his shot selection to that. Scary thought...
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
Wrote this in another thread and thought it fits better. @Meles @Gary Duane @falstaff78 - you gotta like (or dislike) his return stats with so much room to improve in the hold game.

Here's the definitive case for why Zverev will make it big:
- still just 21,5 - for comparison, Fed had 2 slam QF's and one Masters win as his best results at that age iirc
- he's got Lendl in his corner. Lendl wouldn't be there, if he didn't see the potential
-> look what Lendl did to Andy's forehand
- his BH is already world class
- he moves very well for a tall guy
- he can serve as big as the biggest servers, just needs to add a bit more placement and consistency
- he's 9-5 in finals, indicating a certain amount of mental toughness under pressure
- he's been winning 28 % of his return games in 2018, 5 % up from 2017. That's a great number for a big guy.
- his hold game has been a mere 82 % in 2018 - that's very bad for a guy that tall who's as capable from the back court as he is
-> yet he still leads the tour in match wins. Clearly there's room for improvement here with a Lendl-improved forehand after the serve and a better serve
- he's 41,7 % vs. top-10 players. Now I realize that number has been attained in the career inflation era, but it's still up there with Delpo (40,8) and better than Stan (37,1).
- he's a child of the transition era. More or less, there are no great players in their 20's. Opportunities will come his way

Conclusion: Like it or not, this kid is going places.
Under the hood the gain on return points is even bigger. Horrible serving this year for the most part, but the jump in return game has cemented him at top of game for years to come.
 

Pistol10

Professional
Wrote this in another thread and thought it fits better. @Meles @Gary Duane @falstaff78 - you gotta like (or dislike) his return stats with so much room to improve in the hold game.

Here's the definitive case for why Zverev will make it big:
- still just 21,5 - for comparison, Fed had 2 slam QF's and one Masters win as his best results at that age iirc
- he's got Lendl in his corner. Lendl wouldn't be there, if he didn't see the potential
-> look what Lendl did to Andy's forehand
- his BH is already world class
- he moves very well for a tall guy
- he can serve as big as the biggest servers, just needs to add a bit more placement and consistency
- he's 9-5 in finals, indicating a certain amount of mental toughness under pressure
- he's been winning 28 % of his return games in 2018, 5 % up from 2017. That's a great number for a big guy.
- his hold game has been a mere 82 % in 2018 - that's very bad for a guy that tall who's as capable from the back court as he is
-> yet he still leads the tour in match wins. Clearly there's room for improvement here with a Lendl-improved forehand after the serve and a better serve
- he's 41,7 % vs. top-10 players. Now I realize that number has been attained in the career inflation era, but it's still up there with Delpo (40,8) and better than Stan (37,1).
- he's a child of the transition era. More or less, there are no great players in their 20's. Opportunities will come his way

Conclusion: Like it or not, this kid is going places.

Maybe he's not getting great results at the moment, but definitely he's making a good progress.

Lendl changed the game to more modern professional game, he made big impact on Murray's game, was behind his big achievements...So, I guess it's just a matter of time for Zverev, at least, Zverev is focussing on his career, with big goals unlike some other players.
 

Chanwan

G.O.A.T.
Under the hood the gain on return points is even bigger. Horrible serving this year for the most part, but the jump in return game has cemented him at top of game for years to come.
Under the hood = under Lendl? I like it
 

Chanwan

G.O.A.T.
Maybe he's not getting great results at the moment, but definitely he's making a good progress.

Lendl changed the game to more modern professional game, he made big impact on Murray's game, was behind his big achievements...So, I guess it's just a matter of time for Zverev, at least, Zverev is focussing on his career, with big goals unlike some other players.
The time is now :)
 
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