FootFault18
Rookie
Do you have walls? We need some in Spain.
"l'Enfant Prodige" Lorenzo Musetti's Racquet mystery (HEAD)
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vsbabolat
Talk Tennis Guru
Yes, and don’t worry Mexico will pay for it.
McEncock
Professional
Is it the number of the TK57 molds? TK57 A1, TK57 A2, etc
You must have multiple TK57 to produce everything, right?
CiscoPC600
Hall of Fame
It’s funny seeing this SLE dude get schooled. Totally making crap up.
Rabbit
G.O.A.T.
Notice it’s a matte finish and not glossy.
It’s the Prestige S
Did you read a lot of A. Conan Doyle growing up?
I know a certain Brit who’d be very proud!
vsbabolat
Talk Tennis Guru
I watched the movies and did read the Agatha Christie novels in high schoolDid you read a lot of A. Conan Doyle growing up?
I am still confused with 2 things:1)You said in another post that PT113Bx/346.1 layaps are designed to perform extremely good at higher swing weight ratios but they do not feel good when reducing the swing weight, since PT167A1 (FXP Radical) layap is 90% close in feel to them does that mean i must increase my FXP Radical swing weight in order to perform better? 2) Saw a seller who got information that PT346.1 layap is 59RA strung so is this true? If yes that means it is softer than PT113B layap
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
How do you come up with the number that the PT167A1 layup is 90% of the whatever. A total crap. Your imagination.
The RA can vary as much at +/- 3 for the same layup since it is made by hand so I am. It sure where are you going with this.
The ND layup is 61RA strung if that meabs anything.
you clearly said in an older post that PT167A1 FXP Radical has identical RA with PT113B layaps (61 strung).Novak rackets should all flex the same since they are nlmade with extremely tight QC tolerances.However i do believe there could be differences in FXP Radical frames since it was a retail frame..What i really want to know is if the Austrian FXP Radical layap is also designed to perform great and feel good in high swing weights like PT113B layaps
An ex futures player who owns both Austrian FXP Radical and PT113B told me they feel 90% the same..I found a PT346.1 from a seller who has list it as 59 RA strung, that mean PT346.1 layap is softer than PT113B layap or there are differences in all frames because they are all handmade? You can have 2 PT346.1 with different RA ?
FootFault18
Rookie
And what about stifness ratio between PT346.1 layap and PT113B is PT346.1 at 59 RA and PT113B at 61 or each frame has different stiffness because it is handmade?
Yep that's what i thought so properly Novak personal frames are 61 RA strung but other PT346.1 made for other players have lower stiffness...I have currently an Austrian FXP Radical so it is TwinnTube.. My question is are all Twin Tube construction layaps designed to perform and behave perfect in high swing weights but if you remove weight they fell crap?Since i like 350+ swing weight Should i stick with FXP Radical or should i use PT57A2 and PT113B?
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
You have an issue with comprehension!
Out of my previous statement that the FXP Radical is the closest feel to the PT346.1, you got that I “clearly stated” that they are identical layups!!!
Now, from my statements above, you got — “other PT346.1 made for other players have lower stiffness”
Both are not what I said. Many of the 346 that I tried felt softer than the 113B, however, I’ve had a few that felt stiffer. It is a part of racket manufacturing variation.
You do not understand me...I said you clearly stated in an old post from 2018 that both PT113B and Austrian FXP Radical are 61 RA strung..The 90% in layap between them where from an ex futures player who owns both of them,i did not said you said it! ..i said i believe you that layaps are not that close than i previously thought..The PT346.1 ND personal frame i speculated myself that it is stiffer than most PT346.1 made for other players, again i did not say you said it...What i really want to know if you can elaborate me is if the retail Twin Tube construction frames and also PT57A layaps are designed to feel and perform good only under high static weight and swing weight like PT113B layap..For example Murray PT57A2 was at 380sw,if you remove all that weight it will feel blah and crap?
If we remove ridges and holes from TK167 mold..is it identical mold to TK113B ?
yourtennisfit
Professional
Can't you just stop your personal crusade?
We are all following a thread on Musetti's racquet and not your questions regarding a hypothetical mold.
You will not get your hands on a PT167 or 113B anyways - and if so, it either works for you or doesn't...
And always remember: "If my grandma would have had wheels, she would have been a bike"
What is your problem if i want to be educated? I have a PT167A1 FXP Radical and i want to know how close the layap and mold feels compare to PT113B2
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Please don’t give him any ideas!
Rabbit
G.O.A.T.
Oops, sorry.
p1k
Rookie
One of his frames from this season: https://thetennisauction.com/bids/bidplace?itemid=203
_FrankTheTank_
Semi-Pro
Please keep your offtopic elsewhere, this is a thread about head prostock frames and their marginal differences.
innoVAShaun
G.O.A.T.
tennisboy999
New User
Sorry I'n relatively new to this - what frame is this then?
tele
Hall of Fame
if you are asking about the retaiL racquet with that paintjob, it is the head boom neon
HEAD Boom Neon | Tennis Warehouse
www.tennis-warehouse.com
Musetti's.actual racquet is an older extreme iirc
tennisboy999
New User
Thanks man - yep im asking about the actual racket (extreme), thanks!if you are asking about the retaiL racquet with that paintjob, it is the head boom neon
HEAD Boom Neon | Tennis Warehouse
Musetti's.actual racquet is an older extreme iirc
tele
Hall of Fame
sure thing. here is an article with the layup code
Lorenzo Musetti's Racquet - Player Profile
Big congrats to Lorenzo Musetti for winning the Hamburg ATP, defeating Alcaraz 6-4 6-7 6-4. What is Lorenzo Musetti's racquet?
www.tennisnerd.net
Since youve talked a lot about layups here, let me share some info....i have a pt57a fxp paintjob, 2x pt57a2 Berlocq, and Tipsarevic tester pt57a no code on it, painted as tfight, no codes at all, except a label with specs. All feel different. Fxp is the softest, Berlocqs are stiffer, but not stiff and identical in feel, and tfight is stiff. I did not measure the stiffness, so Im talking about my feel.
Also I have a C series (printed tgk231.3 code on the throat) and F series (label on the handle, no print) tgk 231.3, and they feel somewhat different. C is giving that cupping feeling, and F not that much. General feel is similar, but since I have two identical Berlocqs, I know how identical racquets should feel...(hint: identical)...
I cant draw any conclusions, sample is too small, but it seems to me specs can vary within the same prostock code?
Also I have a C series (printed tgk231.3 code on the throat) and F series (label on the handle, no print) tgk 231.3, and they feel somewhat different. C is giving that cupping feeling, and F not that much. General feel is similar, but since I have two identical Berlocqs, I know how identical racquets should feel...(hint: identical)...
I cant draw any conclusions, sample is too small, but it seems to me specs can vary within the same prostock code?
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Did you get all those brand new and used them equal time? If not, the answer is more than obvious.
However, yes, the feel of the same code pro stocks may differ between two frames:
- customization. Different amounts of lead/silicone will alter vibration frequencies differently and therefore “feel” different
- rackets are made by hand and the measured flex can vary as much as +/-3 points between two frames.
- different generations may have different carbon sheets sources that may give them different feel. I recall back in 2010 when that happened when Head changed the supplier. They try to minimize that.
