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TitanRES

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Instead of spending a bazillion $$ on different type of strings, hybrids, blends, etc… and end up with 25 reels and a box of random strings on your journey to the perfect string setup, just get yourself several sets of VS Touch (main) and Isospeed Cream (cross) and call it a day.

Your paid in cost will be a lot lower
Your wrist and elbow will thank you
You will be a lot happier
Your significant other will love you
(Results vary)

You’re welcome.

PS: other smooth poly crosses will work too
Some favorites are:

RPM Rough
Wasabi X
Zero
Ghostwire
Poly Tour Pro

I’ve been playing tennis since 15 and I can’t believe I waited til 42 to try natural gut. Ugh.
 
TitanRES said:
Instead of spending a bazillion $$ on different type of strings, hybrids, blends, etc… and end up with 25 reels and a box of random strings on your journey to the perfect string setup, just get yourself several sets of VS Touch (main) and Isospeed Cream (cross) and call it a day.

Your paid in cost will be a lot lower
Your wrist and elbow will thank you
You will be a lot happier
Your significant other will love you
(Results vary)

You’re welcome.

PS: other smooth poly crosses will work too
Some favorites are:

RPM Rough
Wasabi X
Zero
Ghostwire
Poly Tour Pro

I’ve been playing tennis since 15 and I can’t believe I waited til 42 to try natural gut. Ugh.
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May I ask what is the tension ?
 
Purestriker said:
The gap is too much when the gut is in the mains.
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I see where you're coming from here, and I felt the same way at first as well... For what it's worth, you can prestretch the mains and not prestretch the crosses to get closer to tension. For example, if you wanted approximately a 60/50 setup, perhaps you can do a 55 with 10% prestretch main and 50 with no prestretch on the crosses... Or even 52 with 15% main and 50 on cross. But don't take it from me, I'm not a pro stringer. Good thing Cream isn't harsh like other Poly's and I can string it at 50 and it'll still feel soft
 
Yea, agree with the original poster. I have tried many strings and reels and ended up with random sets in the closet. I’m close to 48 and started the magic called VS Touch and poly(Prince Tour XP). I have never looked back since. Any other string I try feels awful as I’m so used to it’s feel now.
 
While I agree; part of me feels sad b/c I used to restring every week. Now the gut/poly lasts 4-6 weeks (I mostly play doubles) so I look at my stringing machine and feels sad. I genuinely feel it lasts to the end and when I switch to the other frame, there's no big let down. I think I may start stringing for friends.
 
TitanRES said:
I see where you're coming from here, and I felt the same way at first as well... For what it's worth, you can prestretch the mains and not prestretch the crosses to get closer to tension. For example, if you wanted approximately a 60/50 setup, perhaps you can do a 55 with 10% prestretch main and 50 with no prestretch on the crosses... Or even 52 with 15% main and 50 on cross. But don't take it from me, I'm not a pro stringer. Good thing Cream isn't harsh like other Poly's and I can string it at 50 and it'll still feel soft
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I string my full bed of 4G at 53 pounds.
 
gut/poly lasts a long time. the poly dies but the gut keeps on going, and with gut mains you can use it till it breaks.
i think dead poly does well with gut. obviously better than a full bed of dead poly (something too many players today are doing).

also PTP is not that great as a cross. better with PTF from Yonex
 
Playing with dead poly?? That is too harsh for the arm. Also, gut/poly is more comfy than poly, but less than full multi. In a combo with dead poly, it would be an arm-breaker. The 20h-max for poly, still applies...even in a gut hybrid, unfortunately
 
TitanRES said:
Instead of spending a bazillion $$ on different type of strings, hybrids, blends, etc… and end up with 25 reels and a box of random strings on your journey to the perfect string setup, just get yourself several sets of VS Touch (main) and Isospeed Cream (cross) and call it a day.

Your paid in cost will be a lot lower
Your wrist and elbow will thank you
You will be a lot happier
Your significant other will love you
(Results vary)

You’re welcome.

PS: other smooth poly crosses will work too
Some favorites are:

RPM Rough
Wasabi X
Zero
Ghostwire
Poly Tour Pro

I’ve been playing tennis since 15 and I can’t believe I waited til 42 to try natural gut. Ugh.
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You must be good. I would struggle with that setup. Can only do kev/poly at high tensions.

Played with gut/monogutzx and gut/poly before but even though I dug it, the gut would get shredded in now time and it was expensive to keep restringing.
 
EggSalad said:
Or you could just find a good price on a poly that you like, learn to string and string your own racquets.
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TitanRES said:
Instead of spending a bazillion $$ on different type of strings, hybrids, blends, etc… and end up with 25 reels and a box of random strings on your journey to the perfect string setup, just get yourself several sets of VS Touch (main) and Isospeed Cream (cross) and call it a day.

Your paid in cost will be a lot lower
Your wrist and elbow will thank you
You will be a lot happier
Your significant other will love you
(Results vary)

You’re welcome.

PS: other smooth poly crosses will work too
Some favorites are:

RPM Rough
Wasabi X
Zero
Ghostwire
Poly Tour Pro

I’ve been playing tennis since 15 and I can’t believe I waited til 42 to try natural gut. Ugh.
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1. $0 strings by asking around for 'dead strings' or nearly new strings from mishit restringing as long as not much worn/notched up.
2. buy ur own string machine then 5-10 min patch/knot up the broken/adjacent notched ups mostlikely w/in upper center 'comfort zone'.

not only $ave$ but also time as well so more time for hitting less for restringing:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D..............
 
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Shroud said:
You must be good. I would struggle with that setup. Can only do kev/poly at high tensions.
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Context is needed here. You're also swinging 400+sw in a large head size and stiff flex, which altogether has so much bludgeoning force, that it more or less requires a level of firmness and deadness from the string bed that you're only going to get from something such as what you're playing with now. In order to go much softer, past a certain point you have to ramp up the fine motor skills to be able to more precisely control the face angle at contact. So yeah, that's no surprise. But for the rest of us who are playing with swing weights typically under 335, a much more pliable string bed and/or lower tensions are a way better fit, as would be expected.
 
Trip said:
Context is needed here. You're also swinging 400+sw in a large head size and stiff flex, which altogether has so much bludgeoning force, that it more or less requires a level of firmness and deadness from the string bed that you're only going to get from something such as what you're playing with now. In order to go much softer, past a certain point you have to ramp up the fine motor skills to be able to more precisely control the face angle at contact. So yeah, that's no surprise. But for the rest of us who are playing with swing weights typically under 335, a much more pliable string bed and/or lower tensions are a way better fit, as would be expected.
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You really think one can control the face angle at contact? Like adjust it consciously at contact?

And sure as you get to low swing weights, tension should be less to get some power. But the lower the tension the higher the launch angle and the more erratic the stringbed becomes.
 
Shroud said:
You really think one can control the face angle at contact? Like adjust it consciously at contact?
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Well maybe not consciously past a certain degree of precision, but up to that point, for sure. That's what allows us to control the amount of lift, slice/topspin, etc.

Shroud said:
And sure as you get to low swing weights, tension should be less to get some power. But the lower the tension the higher the launch angle and the more erratic the stringbed becomes.
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That's true, but even that is also relative. As you apply more weight to the frame, you're imparting even greater skewing forces on the bed itself at the time of collision, so such a system will require even greater rigidity from the bed to begin with. Frames with less hoop mass and/or hitting weight won't apply as much of that at contact, allowing for softer beds that won't deform as much from the force applied by the frame's weight itself.
 
Trip said:
Well maybe not consciously past a certain degree of precision, but up to that point, for sure. That's what allows us to control the amount of lift, slice/topspin, etc.
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On the basic topspin groundstroke, it's all about "reverse-engineering" the desired 85 degree angle from contact back to the wind-up to find the correct angle on the drop, and then just maintaining that angle throughout the forward motion to the contact and beyond. Easy!
 
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