Let's Face It: Someone Besides Nadal Already Betterer Than Djokovic and Federer at Roland Garros
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SeeItHitIt
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DT no longer a puppy at 27. He'd better start adding crystal to his mantle because he has maybe 6 years...?
Sudacafan
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We can dispense with the raw statistics which are a landslide for Thiem. Record by year turned age (which makes Djokovic a bit older than Federer and Thiem the youngerer with birthday nearly one month after Fed.)
In the year of their 23rd Birthday:
Djokovic QF, Federe 3R, Thiem SF ----> Federe and Djoko lose
24th birthday year:
Djokovic SF, Federe SF, Thiem SF ----> Tie
25th birthday year:
Djokovic F, Federe F, Thiem F ----> Tie
26th birthday year:
Djokovic SF, Federe F, Thiem F -----> Djoko loses
Thiem did better or no worse for these early prime years of career (2016 was not even prime for Thiem). Federer is the closest as it can be argued that both he and Thiem would have won three straight RGs without Nadal in the draw. Please no discussion of worthless Masters titles on clay, etc. or we end up bringing in Zverev and possibly Tsitsipas before too long.For the record Thiem was severly impacted by weather in 2016 and 2019 with many days back to back on court.
If we go to points won at RG we have:
Federe in 2005 at healthy 55.3%, 54.5% in 2006, and 53.9% in 2007, 54.57%
Djoko in 2011 at 55.5%, 55.0% for 2012, and 54.1% in 2013, average 54.87%
Thiem in 2017 at 56.3%, 54.7% (Thiem fractured ankle disrupts clay season), 52.9% (win against peak Djokovic Dulled the stats a bit, plus some rust entering RG due to Rome Fiasco) - average 54.63%
Djoko had the ignominy of losing to Federe in 2011, otherwise they all went down to Nadal. In case someone wants to cry fowl on Nadal those years we have:
Nadal 2005-2007 - 56.3% points won at RG
Nadal 2011-2013 - 56.6% points won at RG
Nadal 2017-2019 - 59.4%points won at RG
@Poisoned Slice @MichaelNadal approved
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this man speaks the truth!!!!!
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Navdeep Srivastava
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Didn't Novak went to 2007and 08 RG semi?
We can dispense with the raw statistics which are a landslide for Thiem. Record by year turned age (which makes Djokovic a bit older than Federer and Thiem the youngerer with birthday nearly one month after Fed.)
In the year of their 23rd Birthday:
Djokovic QF, Federe 3R, Thiem SF ----> Federe and Djoko lose
24th birthday year:
Djokovic SF, Federe SF, Thiem SF ----> Tie
25th birthday year:
Djokovic F, Federe F, Thiem F ----> Tie
26th birthday year:
Djokovic SF, Federe F, Thiem F -----> Djoko loses
Thiem did better or no worse for these early prime years of career (2016 was not even prime for Thiem). Federer is the closest as it can be argued that both he and Thiem would have won three straight RGs without Nadal in the draw. Please no discussion of worthless Masters titles on clay, etc. or we end up bringing in Zverev and possibly Tsitsipas before too long.
If we go to points won at RG we have:
Federe in 2005 at healthy 55.3%, 54.5% in 2006, and 53.9% in 2007, 54.57%
Djoko in 2011 at 55.5%, 55.0% for 2012, and 54.1% in 2013, average 54.87%
Thiem in 2017 at 56.3%, 54.7% (Thiem fractured ankle disrupts clay season), 52.9% (win against peak Djokovic Dulled the stats a bit, plus some rust entering RG due to Rome Fiasco) - average 54.63%
Djoko had the ignominy of losing to Federe in 2011, otherwise they all went down to Nadal. In case someone wants to cry fowl on Nadal those years we have:
Nadal 2005-2007 - 56.3% points won at RG
Nadal 2011-2013 - 56.6% points won at RG
Nadal 2017-2019 - 59.4%
@Poisoned Slice @MichaelNadal approved
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Navdeep Srivastava
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And he has to still win single clay master so no for me
Meles
Bionic Poster
weak era. counting peak play at same age
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