Let's Gather All Grip Specs (Weight & Thickness) Into One Thread

ChicagoJack

ChicagoJack

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Hi All,

1. We have grip specs scattered all over the board in roughly 70-80 threads, dated all the way back to 2004. Seems like somebody is always asking what is the lightest, heaviest, or thinnest grip. I've gotten us started with my own records and by compiling info from most all posts on the topic. It would be cool if players could provide additional info when they get a chance. I will update everything to the big list when time permits.

2. Please feel free to provide any specs you have. If it's already been posted by somebody else, that's cool. That just serves as a much appreciated confirmation. If you have specs that differ from what has already been posted, that's awesome to have as well. I have a hunch there are manufacturing issues that account for those discrepancies.

Grip Installation :
Link : How To Replace A Grip, TW Learning Center
Link : How To Replace A Leather Grip, YouTube
Link : How To Replace An Overgrip, TW Video

Measuring Your Grip Size
Link : Measuring Your Grip Size, TW
Link : Measuring Your Grip Size, TW : Video

Increasing Grip Size
Link : Using Heat Shrink Sleeves
Link : Using Balsa Wood, DIY Project With Photos

Weight Of Heat Shrink Sleeves (Untrimmed)
24.0g ... And roughly 30cm long uncut, From TW Europe (VoodoBoot, 2013)

Changing Grip Shape :
Link : Using Gaffer's Tape Or Cascade Sheets, DIY Project With Photos

Customization Basics:
Link : Weight, Balance, Swingweight, TW Learning Center

Customization Tools and Calculators:
Link : Customization Calculator, Five Locations Worksheet, TW
Link : Customization Calculator, Match One or Two Racquets, TW
Link : Swingweight Calculator, TW

Metric Equivalent To Balance Points For A 27" Racquet:
34.30cm = 0 Even Balance
33.98cm = 1 Points Head Light
33.66cm = 2 Points Head Light
33.35cm = 3 Points Head Light
33.03cm = 4 Points Head Light
32.71cm = 5 Points Head Light
32.39cm = 6 Points Head Light
32.08cm = 7 Points Head Light
31.76cm = 8 Points Head Light
31.44cm = 9 Points Head Light
31.12cm = 10 Points Head Light
30.81cm = 11 Points Head Light
30.49cm = 12 Points Head Light

Metric Conversions
Convert : Grams -> Ounces
Convert : Ounces -> Grams

Convert : Centimeters -> Inches
Convert : Inches -> Centimeters

Convert : Fractions -> Decimals
Convert : Decimals -> Fractions

Best Leather Grip
Best Leather Grip, TW Poll : 2004, November
Best Leather Grip, TW Poll : 2007, March
Best Leather Grip, TW Poll : 2007, December
Best Leather Grip, TW Poll : 2008, March
Best Leather Grip, TW Poll : 2009, July

Tackiest OverGrip
Tackiest OverGrip, TW Poll : 2006, January
Tackiest OverGrip, TW Poll : 2006, August
Tackiest OverGrip, TW Poll : 2008, December
Tackiest OverGrip, TW Poll : 2011, September

Best OverGrip
Best OverGrip, TW Poll : 2006, August
Best OverGrip, TW Poll : 2006, November
Best OverGrip, TW Poll : 2007, May
Best OverGrip, TW Poll : 2008, December
Best OverGrip, TW Poll : 2008, July
Best Overgrip, TW Poll : 2009, January
Best OverGrip, TW Poll : 2009, May
Best Overgrip, TW Poll : 2009, June
Best OverGrip, TW Poll : 2009, August
Best OverGrip, TW Poll : 2011, June

Pro Racquet Technician Commentary
Link : Nate Ferguson of Priority 1, Discussion on Racquet Gripping and Stringing TW
Link : Handle With Care: ATP tour players' sticks get the kid-glove treatment, Tennis.com, March, 2010
Link : Pulling Strings for the Court's Biggest Stars, Wall Street Journal, May 2011
Link : String Theory: Talking with Top Stringer Nate Ferguson, Tennis.com, January 2011
Link : Gear Talk: Roman Prokes, Roddick's Racquet Technician, Tennis.com, September 2012
Link : YouTube Video: TW Interview With Nate Ferguson, October 2007
Link : The Wilson Pro Room, RSI Magazine, July 2004

ATP Pro Player Racquet Specs
Link : 2005, French Open, Male Pro Racquet Specs, The Big List From TT Member Jura
Link : 2005, Female Pro Racquet Specs, The Big List From TT Member Jura
Link : 2009, Grab Bag Of Legacy Specs
Link : 2009, Robin Soderling's Specs and Custom Molded Pallet
Link : 2009, BNP Paribas Open
Link : 2010, BNP Paribas Open
Link : 2012, Mercury Insurance Open
 
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Leather: Weight, Untrimmed
12.1g ..................… Kimony Techni (Black, without double sided tape) … (Corners,2014)
12.5-17.0g …........ Kimony Techni (4 Samples)(Casco,2013)
14.0-15.0g …........ Kimony Techni (2 Samples)(boinz,2014)
13.0-15.0g …........ Kimony Techni (Automatix,2013)

18.0g … (00.00") … Pacific … (LarryBaldridge,2006)

22.0g … (48.00") … Fairway, 2015 Re-Issue, Standard 3/4" Width, (TW)

20.72-24.63g ...... R P N Y Pro Leather, Dark Brown (50" long untrimmed, No backer, No tape)
(9 Samples ... 20.72, 20.73, 20.78, 21.72, 21.87, 22.58, 22.60, 22.88, 24.63 ... (ChicagoJack,2013)

22.0g … (00.00") … Wilson … (Larry Baldridge,2006)
22.0g ...(46.00") … R P N Y (Pro Version, Dark Brown) ... (+/- 2Grams, RPNYWebsite,2013)
22-24g. (00.00") … Prince ...(gonzalocatalino, 2009)
22-26g. (43.50") … Donnay ... (3 samples, 21.71, 25.38, 26.20)(ChicagoJack,2013)

23.0g … (00.00") … Head … (LarryBaldridge,2006)
23.0g … (51.18") … TW Private Label 22mm x 1300mm x 1.5mm ... (TW Europe,2013)

24.0g … (48.00") … Fairway, 2015 Re-Issue, Midsize 7/8" Width, (TW)
24.0g … (51.18") … TW Private Label 25mm x 1300mm x 1.3mm ... (TW Europe,2013)
24-30g. (51.18") … TW Private Label 25mm x 1300mm x 1.5mm ... (One 30g, Two 29g, One 24g)(Casco,2011)
24.0g … (00.00") … Vantage … (ls0206,2009)
24.0g … (00.00") … Pacific Pro Calfskin … (W/Backing & Finishing tape)(Tennisdj,2012)
24.0g … (45.00") … Babolat ... (Babolat Website, 2013)
24.0g … (45.00") … Babolat ... (BabolatOfficial, 2015)
24.0g … (00.00") … Klipper Leather (Pmasterfunk,2015)


25.0g … (00.00") … Pacific Pro Calfskin ... (With Backing, No Tape)(808,2014)
25.0g … (00.00") … Babolat … (ShcMad,2007)
25.0g ...(00.00") ... Dunlop Classic Tour ... (robbo1970,2013)
25.0g … (1200mm) Gamma ... (TW Europe,2013)
25.0g … (00.00") … Fairway … (LarryBaldridge,2006)
25.0g ...(48.00") … Fairway … (Hooked,2011)
25.0g … (00.00") … Head Finest Calfskin … (Bud,2007)
25.5g … (00.00") … Wilson ... (including finishing tape, GBplayer,2013)
25.9g … (51.18") … TW Private Label, 22mm x 1300mm x 1.3mm ... (FoldingChair,2012)

26.0g … (48.00") … Fairway, 2015 Re-Issue, Double Handed 15/16"" Width, (TW)
26.0g … (1000mm) Yonex Leather (27mm wide)(boinz,2014)
26.0g … (00.00") … Wilson ... (W/BackingTapeOn,NoFinishingTape)(robbo1970,2012)
26.6g … (00.00") … Babolat … (GoDawgs,2010)

27.0g … (118cm) … OEHMS Premium Leather, Tan (808,2015)
27.0g... (00.00") ... Head Leather Tour ... (AlpineNut,2013)
27.0g... (51.18") ... TW Private Label, 25mm x 1300mm x 1.3mm … (Galdust,2013)

28.0g ...(46.00") … **** (Std. Version, Light Brown) ... (+/- 2Grams, RPNYWebsite,2013)
28.2g … (00.00") … Volkl … (JT2eighty,2011)
28.0g … (51.18") … TW Private Label, 22mm x 1300mm x 1.3mm (TW USA,2013)
28.0g... (51.18") ... TW Private Label, 25mm x 1300mm x 1.3mm … (Galdust,2013)
28.9g … (48.00") … Fairway ... (Saleem2015)

29.0g … (00.00") … Pro Supex ... (UncleRico,2013)

30.0g … (00.00") … Becker ... (MattAvery,2013)
30.0g … (00.00") … Dunlop Classic Tour ... (Andreas1965,2012)
30.0g … (51.18") … TW Private Label, 22mm x 1300mm x 1.5mm (Jamtix,2008 )
30.0g … (51.18") … TW Private Label, 22mm x 1300mm x 1.5mm (TW USA, 2013)
30.4g … (00.00") … Volkl … Larry Baldridge, 2006

31.1g … (00.00") … Angell Leather ... (torres,2013)
31.3g … (51.18") … TW Private Label, 22mm x 1300mm x 1.5mm (Saleem2015)
31.5g … (00.00") … Volkl … (ShangriLa,2010)

32-33 … (00.00") … Babolat Leather (Black) ... (3Samples, 32.0,32.7,33.0, 808,2015)
32.0g … (51.18") … TW Private Label, 25mm x 1300mm x 1.3mm … (Bud,2009)
32.0g … (51.18") … TW Private Label, 25mm x 1300mm x 1.3mm (TW USA, 2013)
32.0g … (51.18") … TW Private Label, 25mm x 1300mm x 1.5mm (TW USA, 2013)
33.0g … (51.18") … TW Private Label, 25mm x 1300mm x 1.5mm (Galdust,2013)

33.74-37.10g .....… TW Private Label, 25mm x 1300mm x 1.5mm ... (6Samples, W/BackTape, MostAt35g)(Automatix, 2009)

34.0g … (00.00") … Becker … (SFrazeur,2010)
34.0g ...(00.00") … Becker ... (Muppet,2013)

36.0g … (00.00") … Becker … (ShangriLa,2010)
36.0g … (51.18") … TW Private Label, 25mm x 1300mm x 1.5mm … (Bud,2009)


Leather: Installed Weight (With Grip Size, Installed Length)
10.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Kimony (boinz,2014)
10.3g … (GripL3) … (00.00") ... Kimony (On A Wilson Blade 93)(bt johnson,2013)
12.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Kimony (On A Yonex VCore 97s)(Casco,2013)

18.0g … (GripL3) … (00.00") ... Fairway Leather (Factory Seconds)(bt johnson,2013)
20.6g … (GripL3) … (00.00") ... Tecnifibre ATP Leather ... (Torres,2013)
20.4g ...(GripL3) … (42.00") ... Technifibre ATP Leather, From Stock 315 Ltd. ... (ChicagoJack,2015)
21.2g … (GripL3) … (00.00") ... Tecnifibre ATP Leather ... (Torres,2013)

22.0g … (GripL3) … (00.00") ... Pacific Pro Leather Calfskin (Installed On Pacific X-Force Pro)(808,2014)
22.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Pacific ATP ... (Jamtix,2008 )
22.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... TW Private Label 25mm x 1300mm x 1.3mm (JohnP,2008 )
22.0g … (GripL3) … (39.00") ... Donnay ... (ChicagoJack,2013)
22.0g … (GripL3) … (00.00") ... Prince Calfskin ... (bt johnson,2013)
22.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Dunlop (Marcus2137,2013)
22.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Yonex Leather (boinz,2014)
22.3g ... GripL2) ...(00.00") ... Wilson Leather, From a Stock RF97 ... (oble)
22-25g. (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Head Leather, 4 Grips From Head Graphene Prestiges, 22-23-23.5-25g (HellsBells,2015)

23.0g … (GripLx) … (46.00") ... Head Leather, From A Stock YT Prestige Pro (VoodooBoot,2013)
23.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Babolat … (GoDawgs,2010)
23.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Gamma ... (tennistomcat,2012)

24.0g … (GripL5) … (00.00") ... Angell Leather, On a 27.00" racquet ... (tinyman,2015)
24.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Technifibre ATP Leather (Removed from stock TF315, Powerplayer,2013)
24.7g … (GripL2) … (00.00") ... Volkl Leather, Black ... (Corners,2013)

25.0g ... (GripL2) ...(00.00") ... Becker ... (MattAvery,2013)
25.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Head Leather ... (PowerPlayer,2013)

26.0g … (GripL5) … (00.00") ... Angell Leather, On a 27.25" racquet ... (tinyman,2015)
26.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Gamma… (sw00sh,2011)
26.1g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... TW Private Label, 22mm x 1300mm x 1.5mm … (Jamtix,2008 )

27.0g … (GripL3) … (00.00") ... ATS Leather (Gamma) ... (bt johnson,2013)
27.5g … (GripL3) … (00.00") ... Babolat Leather (Black) Installed On Pure Drive (808,2015)
27.6g … (GripL3) … (00.00") ... Babolat Leather (Black) Installed On Pure Drive (808,2015)
27.9g … (GripL3) … (00.00") ... Babolat Leather (Black) Installed On Pure Drive (808,2015)

29.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Head Finest Calfskin ... (extremetennis,2012)
 
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Synthetic Weight : Descending Order

Synthetic, Untrimmed

10.0g … (00.00") … Wilson FeatherThin ... (With Backing Tape)(robbo1970,2014)
11.0g … (44.00") … Wilson Comfort Hybrid … (Early Gold Lettering Version)(ChicagoJack,2012)

13.0g … (00.00") … Dunlop Gecko-Tac Grip … (robbo1970,2013)
13.2g … (00.00") … Wilson Comfort Hybrid … (2012 Version w/"Enhanced Consistency")(604al/2013)

14.0g … (45.00") … Forten Cushion Grip (Available in 150 Foot Rolls) (loupabapache,2013)
14.0g … (00.00") … Dunlop Gecko Tac ... (Payam,2013)
14.0g … (00.00") … Prince ResiThin ... (808,2012)
14.0g … (00.00") … Prince ResiPro (From Stock Prince 98T ESP Grip L3)(Torres,2013)
14.3g … (42.75") … Dunlop Osmo ... (Kwaker,2015)
14.5g … (00.00") … Prince ResiPro (From Stock Prince 98T ESP Grip L3)(Torres,2013)
14.5g … (00.00") … Babolat Smart Grip, (Without Contoured Pieces)(Torres2013)

15.0g … (00.00") … Dunlop Biomimetic Tour (robbo1970,2014)
15.0g … (00.00") … Prince ResiPro (On a D-shaped, Size L3, 27.25" Vantage Frame with extended palette)(Mig1NC,2014)
15.0g … (00.00") … Wilson "Synthetic Leather" from Pro Staff 97 L1 (corners,2015)

16.0g … (44.00") … Wilson Cushion Pro ... (not sold in tennis stores,only dept stores,loubapache,2013)
16.0g … (00.00") … Babolat Syntec Touch ... (BabolatWebsite, 2013)
16.0g … (00.00") … Wilson Sublime (1 White, 1 Grey)(CodyZzZ,2014)
16.5g … (00.00") … Wilson Sublime (White Version)(Torres,2013)
16.6g … (00.00") … Babolat Skin Feel ... (Babolat Website,2013)
16.7-19.2g ........... Babolat Skin Feel ... (Torres,2013)
16.7g … (00.00") … Babolat Uptake ... (BabolatWebsite,2013)

17.0g … (00.00") … Karakal Super PU ... (WhereIsMacMac,2014)
17.0g … (00.00") … Head Synthetic Leather ... (W/BackingTapeOn,NoFinishingTape)(robbo1970,2012)
17.0g … (00.00") … Babolat Syntec Soft ... (BabolatWebsite,2013)
17.0g … (00.00") … Babolat Syntec Pro French Open ... (BabolatWebsite,2013)
17.0g … (00.00") … Dunlop Biomimetic Tour ... (W/BackingTapeOn,NoFinishingTape)(robbo1970,2012)
17.4g … (00.00") … Dunlop Hydramax Comfort … (JT_2eighty, 2011)
17.4g ... (00.00") ... Babolat Syntec Pro ... (Babolat Official, 2015)

18.0g … (00.00") … Pacific Smash ... (robbo1970,2015)
18.0g … (00.00") … Dunlop-Gecko Tac ... (Slitch,2013)
18.0g … (00.00") … Wilson Kontrol ... (retrograde,2012)
18.0g … (00.00") … Babolat Skin Feel ... (W/BackingTapeOn,NoFinishingTape)(robbo1970,2012)
18.4g … (43.60") … Wilson Performance Hybrid (Black w Gold Lettering Version)(Torres,2013)
18.4g … (00.00") … Prince ResiPro ... (Torres,2012)
18.6g … (00.00") … Babolat Syntec ...(Torres, 2013)

19.4g … (00.00") … Angell Synthetic ... (torres,2013)


20.0g … (00.00") … Head HydroSorb Comfort ... (prjacobs,2014)
20.0g … (00.00") … Prince Durasoft ... (robbo1970)
20.0g … (00.00") … Prince DuraPro+ ... (robbo1970,2013)
20.0g … (1300mm).Pacific Supreme X-Touch (Black) ... (Automatix,2013)
20.0g … (00.00") … Wilson Cushion Air Contour ... (retrograde)
20.4g … (00.00") … Wilson Sublime (Black Version)(Torres,2013)
20.4g … (00.00") … Wilson Pro Hybrid … (JT_2eighty,2011)
20.4g ...(45.00") ... Babolat Smart Grip Kit ... (GripIs12.9g+LowerPad4.3g+UpperPad2.8g,Corbind,201 3)
20.6g … (00.00") … Wilson True grip … (JT_2eighty,2011)
20.6-25.2g .........… Wilson Pro Hybrid, Non Gold Lettering Version (4Samples,20.6,23.7, 24.9, 25.2) (Torres,2013)

21.0g … (00.00") … Dunlop Hydramax Tour (retrograde)
21.0g … (43.25") … Head Hydrosorb Tour … (ChicagoJack,2012)
21.0g … (00.00") … Head HydroSorb Tour ... (HitItharder,2010)

22.0g … (00.00") … Gamma Hi-Tech … (SFrazeur,2010)
22.3g … (00.00") … Babolat Syntec Soft ... (Torres,2013)
22.5g … (00.00") … Babolat Syntec Soft ... (Torres,2013)
22.4g … (00.00") … Head HydroSorb ... (Torres,2012)
22.6-25.5 ............ Wilson True Grip ... (Five Samples: 22.6, 22.7, 23.2, 25.4, 25.5) (Torres,2013)

23.2-23.8 ............ Head HydoSorb Tour (Four Samples: 23.29, 23.34, 23.86, 23.88 )(ChicagoJack,2012)
23.3g … (00.00") … Wilson True Grip … (wjt_tennis,2008 )

26.0g … (00.00") … Gamma Basketball Grip ... (shaneno,2015)
26.0g ...(00.00") … Wilson ShockSheild ... (W/BackingTapeOn,NoFinishingTape)(robbo1970,2012)
26-27 .. (43.50") … Wilson ShockShield … (4 Samples: 26.17,26.24,26.90,27.06,With PaperBacking & FinishingTape)(ChicagoJack,2012)

27.0g … (00.00") … Wilson ShockShield … (retrograde,2012)
27.2g … (00.00") … Wilson ShockShield … (Corbind,2013)

29.0g … (00.00") … Wilson ShockShield ... Weight includes: Wrapper0.5g, FinishTape0.5g, FoamPiece0.2g, And PaperBacking (Torres,2013)

39.0g … (40.00") … Gosen Sorbothane Cushion System II … (scotus,2012)(out of production since 2000-2003)

76.0g … (40.00") … ShockTape ... (With Adhesive Backing)(Shroud,2013)


Synthetic, Installed Weight

6.00g … (GripL3) … (00.00") ... Wilson Feather Thin ... Installed On Std Racquet ... (Jonestim, 2015)
7.00g … (GripL3) … (00.00") ... Wilson Feather Thin ... Installed Extended Grip, POG LongBody ... (Jonestim, 2015)
9.00g … (GripL3) … (38.00") ... Donnay Cushion ... (Donnay Pro One)(ChicagoJack,2012)

10.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Wilson Comfort Hybrid ... (Luhkas,2013)
10.4g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Wilson Comfort Hybrid ... (Corbind,2013)

11.0.g …(GripLx) … (00.00") ... Yonex Cushion Grip ... (Two samples from Yonex Ai 98s)(JackB1,2014)
11.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Stock Grip From Yonex V-Core Tour 89, With Finishing Tape (VoodoBoot,2013)
11.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Yonex Hi Soft SuperGrap ... (Purchased thru a Badminton Shop, tennistomcat,2012)
11.3g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Yonex Stock Cushion Grip … (Jamtix,2008 )

12.0g … (GripL3) … (00.00") ... Wilson Sublime (1 White, 1 Grey)(CodyZzZ,2014)
12.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Karakal PU Super (WhereIsMacMac,2014)
12.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Stock Factory Installed From Head YT Prestige MP … (ShangriLa,2010)
12.0g … (GripLx) … (105cm) ... Stock Factory Installed From Yonex V-Core Tour 97 ... (GBPlayer,2013)
12.3g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Yonex Comfort … (GoDawgs,2010)
12.3g … (GripL3) … (00.00") ... Dunlop Viper Dry ... (Fitted to a Yonex V-Core with a long handle)(604al,2013)
12.5g ...(GripL2) … (00.00") ... Head Synth Leather ... (corners,2013)
12.8g … (GripL2) … (00.00") ... Dunlop Gecko Tac ... (corners,2013)

13.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Stock Grip, Pro Kennex Ki5 … (StandupNfall,2010)
13.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Wilson Comfort Hybrid … (Readers,2013)
13.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Head Hydrosorb … (JT_2eighty, 2012)
13.5g … (GripL5) … (00.00") ... Prince ResiThin … (jonestim,2013)
13.7g … (GripL2) … (00.00") ... Yonex, Stock From Rdis 200 ... (corners,2013)

14.0g … (GripL3) … (00.00") ... Stock Grip From PK Q-Tour (Knife,2015)
14.0g … (GripL3) … (00.00") ... Head Hydrosorb Tour (AlpineNut,2013)
14.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Prince ResiThin … (tennistomcat,2012)
14.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Prince ResiThin … (Tball,2012)
14.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Babolat Skin Feel ... (mrrockstar,2011)
14.2g … (GripL3) … (41.20") ... Babolat Skin Feel ... (Fitted To A Wilson Blade 98 )(Torres,2013)
14.4g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Head Microgel Extreme (Stock Grip) (wjt_tennis,2008 )
14.6g … (GripL3) … (00.00") ... Head HydroSorb Tour (From Stock YT Prestige MP)(Torres,2012)
14.7g … (GripL3) … (00.00") ... Head HydroSorb Pro (From Stock Graphene Speed Mp0(Torres,2013)
14.9g … (GripLx) … (42.25") ... Prince ResiPro ... (Corbind,2013)

15.0g … (GripL3) … (1020mm). Pacific Supreme X-Touch (Black,w/Finishing Tape, 14.5g w/o finishing tape)(Automatix,2013)
15.0g … (GripLx) … (42.50") ... Prince ResiPro ... (Corbind,2013)
15.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Head HydroSorb Tour ... (HitItHarder,2010)
15.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Gamma Hi Tech ….. (ShcMad,2007)

16.0g … (GripL3) … (00.00") ... Pacific Master's Grip ... (Installed on Pacific X-Force Pro)(808,2014)

17.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Dunlop Hydramax Tour (Comes stock on the old Hot Melt 300G)(WhereisMacMac,2014)
17.0g … (GripL3) … (40.50") ... Babolat Smart Grip Kit ... (Grip10.8g,LowerPad3.4g,UpperPad2.8g,InstalledOn8" Pallet,Corbind,2013)
17.0g … (GripL3) … (38.40") ... Wilson True Feel ... (On Tecnifiber 315 LTD, Torres,2013)
17.0g … (GripLx)… (40.00") ...Gamma Basketball Grip ... (shaneno,2015)
17.5g ...(GripLx) ... (00.00") ... Babolat Syntec Feel (Babolat Official, 2015)

18.0g … (GripL3) … (00.00") ... Gamma Hi-Tec ... (Knife,2015)

19.0g … (GripL3) … (43.70") ... Wilson Pro Hybrid (Removed Fr. Factory Fitted 2012 Wilson BLX 6.1 95)(Torres,2014)
19.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Gamma Hi-Tech Perforated … (LarryBaldridge,2006)
19.0g … (GripL2) … (38.50") ... Wilson ShockShield ... (ChicagoJack,2013)
19.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Dunlop Osmo-Dry ... (Payam,2013)

22.0g … (GripL3) … (00.00") ... Wilson Pro Hybrid ... (Torres,2013)
22.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Wilson Pro Hybrid ... Black/Gold Letter Version From Wilson Pro Open 2011 (Ussy,2015)

24.0g … (GripLx) … (00.00") ... Wilson ShockSheild ... (PowerPlayer,2013)

Heat Shrink Sleeves (Untrimmed)
24.0g ... About 30cm, Heat shrink sleeve from TW Europe, uncut: 24g (VoodoBoot, 2013)
 
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Leather, Thickness
0.80mm ... Kimony Techni ... (RetailWebsite,2013)
0.84mm ... Kimony Techni ... (measured with calipers,tsongaali,2013)

1.20mm ... Head Finest Calf Skin (Hankenstein,2012)

1.30mm ... TW Private Label 22mm x 1300mm x 1.3mm ... (TW,2013)
1.30mm ... TW Private Label 25mm x 1300mm x 1.3mm ... (TW,2013)

1.40mm ... Yonex ... (from boinz, citing packaging info,2014)

1.42mm ... Fairway, 2015 Re-issue, 48" x 3/4, Standard ... (TW,2015)

1.43mm ... Babolat ... (Pug,2009 with a set of digital calipers)

1.45mm ... R P N Y (Std Version, Light Brown) ... (R P N Y, 2013)
1.45mm ... R P N Y (Pro Version, Dark Brown) ... (R P N Y, 2013)

1.46mm ... Fairway, 2015 Re-issue, 48" x 15/16, Double Handed ... (TW,2015)
1.46mm ... Fairway, 2015 Re-issue, 48" x 7/8, Midsize ... (TW,2015)

1.465mm.. Becker, Black Version (with digital calipers, and after stretching onto frame Matt Avery,2013)

1.48mm ... Klipper Leather (Pmasterfunk,2015 Via contact with Klipper)

1.50mm ... Gamma (e-mail from Gamma to maxply,2013)
1.50mm ... Dunlop Classic Tour (RetailWebsite, Via robbo1970)
1.50mm ... OEHMS Premium Leather, Tan ... (808,2015)
1.50mm ... Head Leather Tour ... (HeadWebsite,2013)
1.50mm ... Tecnifibre ATP World Tour (Packaging,2013)
1.50mm ... Pacific ATP Pro ... (TW Retail Info, 2013)
1.50mm ... Pacific Pro Leather (Finest Calfskin)(Pacific Website,2014)
1.50mm ... Prince Premium ... (RetailWebsite,2013)
1.50mm ... Kimony Original ... (RetailWebsite,2013)
1.50mm ... TW Private Label 22mm x 1300mm x 1.5mm ... (TW,2013)
1.50mm ... TW Private Label 25mm x 1300mm x 1.5mm ... (TW,2013)

1.55mm ... Volkl ... (Pug,2009, with a set of digital calipers)

1.60mm ... Wilson ... (Wilson Website, 2013)
1.60mm ... Wilson Pro Hybrid ... ( Leather & Polyuerethane)(RetailWebsite,2013)
1.60mm ... Pro Supex

1.70mm ... Babolat ... (Babolat Website,2013)
1.70mm ... Kimony Cushion ... (RetailWebsite,2013)
1.70mm ... Kimony Super High Soft ... (RetailWebsite,2013)

1.80mm ... Fairway ... (RetailWebsite,2013)

Synthetic, Thickness
1.00mm ... Gosen Sorbothane CushionGrip Sys II (Scotus,2012) (production discontinued somewhere in 00-03)
1.25mm ... Tourna ProThin ... (RetailWeb,2012)
1.25mm ... **** Synthetic Leather ... (RPNYWebsite, 2013)
1.40mm ... Stock Grip From Yonex RDiS200 ... (With Digital Micrometer, Love50,2010)
1.40mm ... Stock Grip Fr. Yonex VCore Tour 97 (25mmwide,105cm long,TaperedBothEnds,GBplayer,2013)

1.50mm ... Tourna Pro Tour (RetailWebsite,2013)
1.50mm ... Prince ResiThin ... (Jocke,2013)
1.50mm ... Prince ResiThin ... (ducttrung3993,2012)
1.50mm ... Genesis Tru Comfort ... (RetailWesite,2013)
1.50mm ... **** Cushion Perforated ... (**** Website,2013)
1.50mm ... Pacific Smash Grip ... (robbo1970)

1.55mm ... Babolat Skin Feel ... (BabolatWebsite,2013)

1.60mm ... Mantis PU (Robbo1970,2014)
1.60mm ... Forten Cushion Grip (Available in Bulk 150ft Rolls, loubapache,2013)
1.60mm ... Yonex Premium Core ... (YonexWebsite,2013)
1.60mm ... Yonex NS Basic ... (TW, Europe,2013)
1.60mm ... Wilson Pro Hybrid ... ( Leather & PU )(RetailWebsite,2013)
1.65mm ... Dunlop Osmo ... with a digital caliper ... (Kwaker,2015)
1.65mm ... Wilson "Synthetic Leather" From Pro Staff 97 (corners,2015)
1.6-2.6mm ... Yonex Premium Comfort ... (YonexWebsite, 2013)

1.70mm ... Tecnifibre X-tra Sharp ...(TW Retail Info,2013)
1.70mm ... Dunlop Hydramax Pro ... (With Digital Micrometer, Love50,2010)


1.75mm ... Head HydroSorb Pro ... (HeadWebsite,2013)
1.75mm ... Head Hydrosorb Tour ... (Love50,2010)
1.75mm ... Genesis Trinity Contour (RetailWeb,2013)
1.75mm ... Unique Re-Grip ... (With Digital Micrometer, Love50,2010)

1.80mm ... Dunlop Gecko-Tac ... (robbo1970, via retail website, 2013)
1.80mm ... Wilson Sublime ... (Wilson Website 2013)
1.80mm ... Head SoftTac Traction ...(HeadWebsite,2013)
1.80mm ... Fairway Legend Synleather (RetailWebsite,2013)
1.80mm ... Pacific Supreme Grip 1.8 ... (PacificWebsite,2013)
1.80mm ... Pacific Master's Grip ... (Pacific Website,2014)
1.80mm ... Pacific Master's Grip Classic ... (Pacific Website,2014)
1.80mm ... Pacific Power Tack ... (Pacific Website,2014)
1.80mm ... Pacific Power Tack Twin Feel ... (Pacific Website,2014)
1.80mm ... Pacific X Duo Feel ... (Pacific,2014)
1.80mm ... Pacific Supreme Grip ... (Pacific Website,2014)
1.80mm ... Pacific Supreme Grip Pro ... (Pacific Website,2014)
1.80mm ... Pacific Supreme X-Touch ... (Automatix/Manufacturers Info,2013)
1.80mm ... Pacific Smash Grip ... (Pacific Website,2014)
1.80mm ... Prince ResiPro ... (robbo1970,2014)
1.80mm ... Pro Supex Extra Cushion
1.80mm ... Pro Supex Flex Cushion
1.80mm ... Pro Supex Super Cushion
1.80mm ... Wilson Aire Classic Perforated ...(WilsonWebsite,2013)
1.80mm ... Wilson Aire Classic Contour ... (WilsonWebsite,2013)
1.80mm ... MSV Soft Pace Embossed ... (RetailWebsite,2013)
1.80mm ... Genesis X Tack ... (RetailWeb,2013)
1.80mm ... Technifibre Xtrem ... (RetailWeb,2013)
1.80mm - 2.80mm Karakal Xtra, Ridged Grip (robbo1970,2014)

1.85mm ... Karakal Super Pu ... (With Digital Micrometer, Love50,2010)

1.90mm ... Gamma Hi-Tec ... (Knife,2013)
1.90mm ... Babolat Uptake ... (BabolatWebsite, 2013)
1.90mm ... Pro's Pro Super Ridge ... (RetailWebsite,2013)
1.90mm ... Pro's Pro Hyper Power ... (RetailWebsite,2013)
1.90mm ... Tecnifibre X-Tra Feel ... (TW Retail Info, 2013)
1.90mm ... Babolat Syntec Pro ...(BabolatWebsite, 2013)
1.90mm ... Gosen Nano (MG-40) ... (With Digital Micrometer, Love50,2010)
1.90mm ... Babolat Syntec Pro French Open ...(BabolatWebsite,2013)
1.90mm ... Wilson True ... (RetailWebsite,2013)
1.90mm ... Weiss Cannon High Tech ...(RetailWeb,2013)
1.90mm ... Weiss Cannon Relief ...(RetailWeb,2013)
1.90mm ... Weiss Cannon Track-Line ...(RetailWeb,2013)

2.00mm ... Babolat Syntec Feel ...(Babolat Official, 2015)
2.00mm ... Babolat Syntec Touch ...(BabolatWebsite, 2013)
2.00mm ... Wilson Shock Shield ... (WilsonWebsite,2012)
2.00mm ... Wilson Cushion Aire Sponge ... (WilsonWebsite,2013)
2.00mm ... MSV Soft Tac Perforated ... (RetailWebsite,2013)
2.00mm ... MSV Soft Tac Embossed ... (RetailWebsite,2013)
2.00mm ... Signum Pro Sponge ... (RetailWebsite,2013)
2.00mm ... Technifibre X-tra ... (RetailWebsite,2013)
2.00mm ... Dunlop Hydramax Tour ... (Quote : "Not using a Precision Caliper" -WhereIsMacMac,2014)
2.00mm ... Karakal X-air ... (robbo1970,2014)

2.10mm ... Tecnifibre X-tra Full ... (TW Retail Info,2013)
2.10mm ... Babolat Syntec Soft ...(Babolat Website,2013)
2.10mm ... Head Hydrosorb Comfort ...(HeadWebsite,2013)
2.10mm ... Pacific X Duo Comfort ... (PacificWebsite,2014)

2.20mm ... Wilson Comfort Hybrid ... (WilsonWebsite,2013)
2.20mm ... Pro's Pro Hyper Cushion ... (RetailWebsite,2013)
2.20mm ... Technifibre Conformax ... (RetailWeb,2013)
2.20mm ... Technifibre Tackymax ... (RetailWeb,2013)
2.20mm ... Technifibre Tec-Dry ... (RetailWeb,2013)
2.20mm ... Prince ResiSoft (Product Packaging,2015)

2.40mm ... Prince Durasoft ... (robbo1970,2013)
2.60mm ... Karakal X-gel ... (robbo1970, 2014)
 
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OverGrips, Weight (Untrimmed, Uninstalled)
3.8g ... Babolat VS Grip (Original) ... (Babolat Website,2013)
3.8g ... Babolat VS Grip (French Open) ... (Babolat Website,2013)
4.0g ... Pro's Pro Aqua Zorb 55 ... (Lukhas,2013)
4.0g ... Tourna Unique What-A-Grip ... (Sfrazeur,2013)
4.4g … Babolat Pro Team Tacky ... (Babolat Website,2013)
4.5g ... Babolat Pro Team SP ... (Babolat Website,2013)
4.8g ... TournaGrip Regular ... (JT_2eighty,2011)
4.8g ... Kimony NeoDry (KGT143) "Black Version, Is Grey In Actual Fact" ... (corners, 2014)
5.0g ... Wilson Advantage (Salem,2015)
5.07g.. Yonex SuperGrap ... (with Finishing Tape, No Plastic Backing)(ChicagoJack,2013)
5.1g ... Gamma DermaGrip ... (JT_2eighty,2011)
5.5g ... Yonex SuperGrap ... (JT_2eighty,2011)
5.5g ... Tourna MegaTac Blue ... (corners, 2014)
5.5g ... Tourna Grip XL ... (corners, 2014)
5.9 ... Yonex SuperGrap ... (Saleem, 2015)
5.9g … Babolat Babol'XL ... (Babolat Website,2013)
6.0g ... Head Prestige Pro ... (Knife,2015)
6.0g ... Signum Pro Wet ... (Payam,2013)
6.0g ... Babolat Pro Tour ... (Babolat Website,2013)
6.4g ... Dunlop Hydramax ... (JT_2eighty,2011)
6.8g ... Gamma Supreme ... (JT_2eighty,2011)
7.0g ... Karakal Point Air 75 ... (Knife,2015)
7.8g ... Pro Supex H-Model ... (JT_2eighty,2011)
7.9g ... Dunlop Osmo-Dry ... (JT_2eighty,2011)
8.0g ... Gamma Supreme ... (AlpineNut,2013)

OverGrips, Thickness
Except where indicated, all overgrip digits were obtained from manufacturers websites,
online retail sites, or product packaging.

0.33mm ... Kimony High Soft EX Ultra Thin
0.38mm ... Kirschbaum Touch It Ultra Thin

0.35-0.40.. Babolat VS Original ... (With Digital Micrometer, Love50,2010)
0.40mm ... Babolat VS Original ... (Babolat Website,2013)
0.40mm ... Gamma Grip 2
0.40mm ... Wilson Pro Sensation

0.45mm ... Head Pro
0.45mm ... Pacific Grip-A-Round (2013)

0.50mm ... Pacific Original (2013)
0.50mm ... Pacific Air Feel (2013)
0.50mm ... Pacific Le Grip The Original (2014)
0.50mm ... Pacific Le Grip Air Feel (2014)
0.50mm ... Pacific Over Tack
0.50mm ... Pacific Softy Grip (2014)
0.50mm ... Signum Pro Tour
0.50mm ... Tecnifibre Pro Players
0.50mm ... Pro's Pro Super Tacky
0.50mm ... Pro's Pro Soft Thin
0.50mm ... Head Xtreme Soft
0.50mm ... Head Super Comp
0.50mm ... Mantis Performa Tac
0.50mm ... MSV Cyber Wet
0.50mm ... MSV Skin
0.50mm ... Weiss Cannon Mystery

0.55mm ... Pacific X Tack Pro (2013)
0.55mm ... Pacific X Tack Dry (2014)
0.55mm ... Pacific XTR (2013)
0.55mm ... Babolat Pro Team Tacky
0.55mm ... Babolat Pro Tour Traction
0.55mm ... Babolat Pro Team SP
0.55mm ... Pro's Pro Aqua Zorb 55
0.55mm ... Wilson Pro ... (With Digital Micrometer, Love50,2010)
0.55mm ... Wilson Pro
0.55mm ... Wilson Pro Perforated
0.55mm ... Wilson Advantage
0.55mm ... Wilson Profile
0.55mm ... Wilson Flip Grip
0.55mm ... Signum Pro Micro
0.55mm ... Volkl Super Grip II ... (With Digital Micrometer, Love50,2010)

0.60mm ... TournaGrip Original ... (Bernie Backhand, 2015)
0.60mm ... Babolat My Grip
0.60mm ... Mantis Performa Perforated
0.60mm ... Prince ResiPro Perforated Overgrip
0.60mm ... Prince MicroSplat
0.60mm ... Prince MicroTac
0.60mm ... Prince Wimbledon
0.60mm ... Pro's Pro Ichiban
0.60mm ... Karakal Nano 60
0.60mm ... Karakal Peachy 6
0.60mm ... Pro Supex Premier Soft
0.60mm ... Pro Supex Max Soft
0.60mm ... Pro Supex Extreme Soft
0.60mm ... Signum Pro Wet
0.60mm ... Solinco Wonder Grip
0.60mm ... Yonex Super Grap
0.60mm ... Yonex Waterfit
0.60mm ... Solinco Heaven Grip
0.60mm ... Head Prestige Pro
0.60mm ... Babolat Pro Tour
0.60mm ... Babolat Incense
0.60mm ... Tecnifibre Pro Contact
0.60mm ... Technifibre NanoSkin
0.65mm … Babolat Babol'XL

0.70mm ... Pacific Control Tack
0.70mm ... Pro Supex Tacky Soft
0.70mm ... Tecnifibre ATP Pro
0.70mm ... Pro's Pro Comet
0.70mm ... Pro's Pro Ultimate

0.75mm ... MSV Soft Touch
0.75mm ... Pro's Pro Premium
0.75mm ... Pro Supex Dura Soft
0.75mm ... Pro's Pro Aqua Zorb Plus
0.75mm ... Pro's Pro Soft Dura
0.75mm ... Karakal Point 75 Air
0.75mm ... Pointfore Supreme
0.75mm ... Signum Pro Magic
0.75mm ... Tier One Sports, Tru Tack ... (TierOneSportsOfficial,2013)
0.75mm ... Tecnifibre Overlast
0.75mm ... Tyger Challenge
0.75mm ... Topspin Top Grip

0.80mm ... Pacific Softy Grip
1.00mm ... Dunlop HydraMax
1.00mm ... Kimony Double Thickness Wet
1.35mm ... Yonex Towel Grip (100% Cotton)(Good Luck With That)
2.6 - 0.6mm ... Yonex Wave Grap

OverGrips, Length & Width
99cm x 25mm ... Tourna-Grip Original (UniqueSports.us)
99cm x 29mm ... Tourna-Grip XL (UniqueSports.us)
100cm x 35mm ... Tourna-Grip XXL (UniqueSports.us)
 
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This is a great addition. I don't know why this type of information is not published in one, easy-to-find place on the TW site, but I've never been able to find it.

I recently bought calipers to measure the actual thickness of the grips and overgrips that I use, and I'll write that up and send the data to you when I get a chance.

Thanks,

T.
 
Trimmed for size 2:

Yonex white base from Rdis 200 13.7g ("Yonex synthetic grip")
Dunlop Gecko Tac 12.8g
Volkl Leather (Black) 24.7g
Head Synthetic Leather 12.5g (Head says 1.75mm thick)
 
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TNT34 said:
This is a great addition. I don't know why this type of information is not published in one, easy-to-find place on the TW site, but I've never been able to find it.

I recently bought calipers to measure the actual thickness of the grips and overgrips that I use, and I'll write that up and send the data to you when I get a chance.

Thanks,

T.
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Ooooh, Calipers. I love it when you talk sexy. Those digits would be awesome TNT34. Would be much appreciated by all I'm sure.
 
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corners said:
Trimmed for size 2:

Yonex white base from Rdis 200 13.7g ("Yonex synthetic grip")
Dunlop Gecko Tac 12.8g
Volkl Leather (Black) 24.7g
Head Synthetic Leather 12.5g (Head says 1.75mm thick)
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I've updated the big list, thanks! BTW guys, I have 3 Donnay Leather grips arriving on Saturday via the nice man driving the big brown truck. I will spec those out for everybody too. Not much avail info on those.
 
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The weight discrepancy is just awful.....bought from the same retailer.

Wilson Sublime

White
http://s1122.photobucket.com/user/TorresNo9/media/20130606_212401_zps14af162d.jpg.html

Black
http://s1122.photobucket.com/user/TorresNo9/media/20130606_212345_zpsb8ca78c4.jpg.html

Somewhat amusingly, the cardboard packaging was pretty consistent in weight - 13.3g and 13.6g. That's Wilson 'QC' for you I guess.

I suppose you can at least weigh the whole package in the shop before buying them though....
 
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ChicagoJack said:
Ooooh, Calipers. I love it when you talk sexy. Those digits would be awesome TNT34. Would be much appreciated by all I'm sure.
Click to expand...

Regarding calipers, is there a standard method for measuring as far as how much compression of the grip should occur? One could measure to "first contact" or continue to turn the caliper and compress the grip to some degree. How should we be doing it?
 
Torres said:
Somewhat amusingly, the cardboard packaging was pretty consistent in weight - 13.3g and 13.6g. That's Wilson 'QC' for you I guess. I suppose you can at least weigh the whole package in the shop before buying them though....
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LOL and Yikers! It's not unusual for a whole tennis racquet to vary plus or minus 4 grams. But that's crazy for something so light (and so easily manufactured) as a replacement grip.
 
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Are we all gonna report in grams/mm or ounces/inches or do it both ways? The cut/installed figures should be more useful as well as have less variance.

Prince ResiPro Replacement Grip (EXO3 Tour stock grip)
CUT installed: 14.4 g (done in '12)
CUT installed: 15.0 g (done 6-6-13) and is 42.25" in length

Wilson Shock Shield Hybrid
UNCUT: 27.2 g (0.96 oz)
CUT installed: 24.2 g (0.85 oz)
Thickness = 2.0 mm (eyeballed with ruler on thickest side)

Wilson Comfort Hybrid
UNCUT: ?
CUT installed: 10.4 g (0.37 oz)
Thickness = 2.5 mm (eyeballed with ruler on thickest side)
 
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Torres said:
The weight discrepancy is just awful.....bought from the same retailer.

Wilson Sublime





Somewhat amusingly, the cardboard packaging was pretty consistent in weight - 13.3g and 13.6g. That's Wilson 'QC' for you I guess.

I suppose you can at least weigh the whole package in the shop before buying them though....
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Totally different product. The black is heavier than the white
 
corners, Robbo1970, Torres, Corbind - Thanks for your recent contributions, much appreciated :) I've updated the list.

lgbalfa - No problem, I'm happy to do it. Just taking my OCD for a long walk in the park.

djNEiGht - Yeah man, that thread with the weights of 7 or 8 leather grips from Larry Baldridge circa 2006 were referenced for quite a while, by quite a few, including myself. It was the only info we had for a very long time. I've got those digits in the list and am hoping we can all create something a bit more encompassing and up to date.

Corbind, corners - Yes, metric please. I'd prefer to get mass in grams, thickness in millimeters only. Regarding the length however, currently I am listing that in inches. I might convert that column to cm or mm at some point, but right now, that's what how I have it listed. It's a secondary concern, I'm including that just to give a bit more clarity to the uncut and installed weight.

Corners - Regarding a consistent way to record caliper measurements, I'm thinking that it would be best to record the first touch on each side. Just thinking out loud tho, your question has given me an idea. Maybe if we had one measurement for the first touch, and a second for full compression, that would be a way to standardize / quantify the very subjective issue of grip comfort, and firmness?

Thanks!

Jack
 
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bt johnson said:
Totally different product. The black is heavier than the white
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Hi bt johnson -

1. Thanks for your reply. If somebody can demonstrate that the Black versions of the Wilson Sublime Grip are consistent to each other, and the white versions are consistent to each other, then I am happy to accept your explanation and list them as separate and distinct versions of the same model, even though it appears that neither Wilson nor any online retailer I can find, makes that same distinction.

2. However, Torres has demonstrated pretty clearly the weight variation on the Wilson True Grip is fairly unpredictable, (plus or minus 4 grams) and they are all the same color. That observational fact remains unchallenged.

Thanks!

Jack
 
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I'd be interested to know the thickness of the Dunlop Gecko Tac replacement grip, if anyone knows? (It is not currently listed above). I wonder if it's any more or less thick than other mainstream grips like Babolat Syntec ?
 
MaXXply - I've put your request for info on Dunlop Gecko Tac at the bottom of the thickness list on the first page.

Torres - Thanks again for the updates, contributions.
 
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Torres - Whats your grip size? I've tweaked the list columns a bit and am now including that information if possible, alongside the installed weight, thanks!
 
@ ChicagoJack. I'm G3. I've found that all of the grips that I've used - particularly from mainstream manufacturers - are more than long enough for racquets even with very long handles.
 
Torres said:
@ ChicagoJack. I'm G3. I've found that all of the grips that I've used - particularly from mainstream manufacturers - are more than long enough for racquets even with very long handles.
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Cool, thanks for the providing grip size. There's no doubt that most grips are long enough to cover the whole length. So, I'm kinda thinking that you misunderstand my reasoning for including installed grip length and grip size as data columns?

It's possible, with very little overlap, to use as little as 38" to cover an L3 Donnay Pallet. With a longer pallet, more overlap, and an L5, it might take 44 inches. This factor is already emerging, note that Corbind is wrapping his EXO3 Tours with 42.5 inches, a full 4.5 inches longer than I wrap my P1s. As the list continues to grow, we are going to have lots of different installed weights for the very same grip models. Noting those two variables will help us to understand the discrepancies.

I'm doing my best to keep this an easy read and not overly complicated as well. I know that grips come in various widths, and that of course affects the wrap length. In the interest of brevity and keeping it simple, I've elected to nix that as a data column.

Thanks again for all that you have provided thus far, it's greatly appreciated!

Jack
 
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Ah, I see where you're coming from now. Didn't realise that larger grip sizes used so much more grip lenth. 44"/38" x say 20g = over 3g difference.
 
@ Torres, Yeah, that factor has been surprising to me too. Corbind and I have been chatting off line about that. I thought that he was giving me out of the box lengths, when he really is using 42.5" to cover his sticks. I think that Prince frames have longer pallets? I dont have a single Prince frame in the house, so that's just pure conjecture on my part.
 
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I actually fudged some of my numbers. Sorry. I use 1/8 on some of my frames and 1/4 on others. I added 1 gram to the 1/8-trimmed grips to get 1/4" figures. :shock:
 
corners -

No worries, close enough for jazz. :) We are sweating the finer details of our record keeping, but I have a hunch that one thing we will discover as we get more digits is that manufacturing tolerances are a much bigger deal than we previously assumed. Of the three Donnay leather grips that came in the mail today, two were 26 grams and one was 22 grams. In addition to myself and Torres' discoveries on QC tolerances I also came across this quote:
Casco said:
Just recieved 4 TW leather grips - 1300mm x 25mm x 1.5mm. Untrimmed, one of them weighed 30 grams, two weighed 29 grams, and one weighed 24 grams.
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I suspect we might have to start thinking about grip specs, the same way we think about racquet specs. That is to say, a range of possible weights, with plus or minus four grams not that uncommon, which means we settle on averages anyways. I think it's awfully clever that Torres used the 4gram spread difference on his Wilson grips to balance his frames without using lead. Genius. I guess that's one upside.

-Jack
 
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corners said:
Regarding calipers, is there a standard method for measuring as far as how much compression of the grip should occur? One could measure to "first contact" or continue to turn the caliper and compress the grip to some degree. How should we be doing it?
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I've never seen a standard method, but would be happy to know if there is one. And as you suggest there is quite a bit of variation due to compression. I've tried to minimize that a bit by putting the grip between two thin pieces of metal and then measuring the width and subtracting the width of the metal. If you just put calipers to the grip the measurements depend too much on how much you allow the grip to compress.

Another thing I've tried is to measure multiple layers at once, to get more of an average thickness.

I haven't really found a great way to do this though, and would welcome other thoughts.

T.
 
ChicagoJack said:
I suspect we might have to start thinking about grip specs, the same way we think about racquet specs. That is to say, a range of possible weights, with plus or minus four grams not that uncommon, which means we settle on averages anyways. I think it's awfully clever that Torres used the 4gram spread difference on his Wilson grips to balance his frames without using lead. Genius. I guess that's one upside.

-Jack
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LOL, I'm afraid that your suspicion will be well founded! Tennis QC is not so hot. But as long as lead tape stays true we'll be OK!:)
 
Slitch, Torres - Thanks! list is updated.

finalfantasy7 - Yup check the big list on the first page. There are three entries for Wilson ShockShield untrimmed, and one entry for final installed mass. I'm consolidating all the specs into one list to make this stuff easy to find with out having to read a gazzilion posts. BTW, I love that grip, I have it on most of my frames, with leather on just a few. Based upon the info we have so far, it's pretty consistently manufactured as well.
 
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Babolat Skin Feel (trimmed / fitted)

14.2g, L3, 2013 Blade 98 (short handle).

EDIT: 104.5cm / 41.2" installed length

EDIT2: Wilson True Feel (trimmed / fitted) - 17g / 97.5cm (L3, Tecnifibre 315 Ltd)
 
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Hi Payam - Sure no problemo. Just added to the list of requests for missing info.

Torres - You are fixin to be the first inductee into the grip specs hall of fame, much appreciated.
 
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Pacific Supreme X-Touch (black)
Weight untrimmed: 20g
Weight trimmed: 15g
Thickness stated by manufacturer: 1.80mm
 
Thanks for the thread, here's my contribution:
- Wilson Comfort Hybrid replacement grip (2012+ version w/"enhanced consistency") - 13.2g untrimmed... it's thick and you lose bevel feel, but nice tack and fitment.

These next two are trimmed off a L3 Yonex Vcore that has a long handle so not much is left after:
- Yonex Supergrap overgrip: 4g
- Dunlop Viper Dry replacement grip: 12.3g (didn't like this one at all..
 
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