Let's Gather All Grip Specs (Weight & Thickness) Into One Thread

Leather, Thickness

0.80mm ... Kimony Techni ... (RetailWebsite,2013)

1.20mm ... Head Finest Calf Skin (Hankenstein,2012)
1.20mm ... Gamma (RetailWebsite,2013)

1.30mm ... TWPrivateLabel (4versions 2thick, 2widths)...(TW,2013)

1.43mm ... Babolat ... (Pug,2009 with a set of digital calipers)
1.45mm ... **** ... (RetailWebSite,2013)

1.50mm ... Head Leather Tour ... (HeadWebsite,2013)
1.50mm ... Tecnifibre ATP World Tour (Packaging,2013)
1.50mm ... Pacific ATP Pro ... (TW Retail Info, 2013)
1.50mm ... Prince Premium ... (RetailWebsite,2013)
1.50mm ... Kimony Original ... (RetailWebsite,2013)

1.55mm ... TWPrivateLabel (4versions 2thick, 2widths)...(TW,2013)
1.55mm ... Volkl ... (Pug,2009, with a set of digital calipers)

1.60mm ... Wilson ... (Wilson Website, 2013)
1.60mm ... Pro Supex

1.70mm ... Babolat ... (Babolat Website,2013)
1.70mm ... Kimony Cushion ... (RetailWebsite,2013)
1.70mm ... Kimony Super High Soft ... (RetailWebsite,2013)

1.80mm ... Wilson Premium ...(RetailWebsite, 2013)
1.80mm ... Fairway ... (RetailWebsite,2013)


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Synthetic, Thickness

1.00mm ... Gosen Sorbothane CushionGrip Sys II (Scotus,2012) (production discontinued somewhere in 00-03)
1.25mm ... Tourna ProThin ... (RetailWeb,2012)
1.25mm ... **** Synthetic Leather ... (RPNYWebsite, 2013)
1.40mm ... Stock Grip From Yonex RDiS200 ... (With Digital Micrometer, Love50,2010)
1.40mm ... Stock Grip Fr. Yonex VCore Tour 97 (25mmwide,105cm long,TaperedBothEnds,GBplayer,2013)

1.50mm ... Tourna Pro Tour (RetailWebsite,2013)
1.50mm ... Prince ResiThin ... (Jocke,2013)
1.50mm ... Prince ResiThin ... (ducttrung3993,2012)
1.50mm ... Genesis Tru Comfort ... (RetailWesite,2013)
1.55mm ... Babolat Skin Feel ... (BabolatWebsite,2013)

1.60mm ... Yonex Premium Core ... (YonexWebsite,2013)
1.70mm ... Tecnifibre X-tra Sharp ...(TW Retail Info,2013)
1.70mm ... Dunlop Hydramax Pro ... (With Digital Micrometer, Love50,2010)

1.75mm ... Head HydroSorb Pro ... (HeadWebsite,2013)
1.75mm ... Head Hydrosorb Tour ... (Love50,2010)
1.75mm ... Genesis Trinity Contour (RetailWeb,2013)
1.75mm ... Unique Re-Grip ... (With Digital Micrometer, Love50,2010)

1.80mm ... Wilson Sublime ... (Wilson Website 2013)
1.80mm ... Head SoftTac Traction ...(HeadWebsite,2013)
1.80mm ... Fairway Legend Synleather (RetailWebsite,2013)
1.80mm ... Pacific Supreme Grip 1.8 ... (PacificWebsite,2013)
1.80mm ... Pacific X Duo Comfort ... (TW Retail Info, 2013)
1.80mm ... Pacific Supreme X-Touch ... (Automatix/Manufacturers Info,2013)
1.80mm ... Pro Supex Extra Cushion
1.80mm ... Pro Supex Flex Cushion
1.80mm ... Pro Supex Super Cushion
1.80mm ... Wilson Aire Classic Perforated ...(WilsonWebsite,2013)
1.80mm ... Wilson Aire Classic Contour ... (WilsonWebsite,2013)
1.80mm ... MSV Soft Pace Embossed ... (RetailWebsite,2013)
1.80mm ... Genesis X Tack ... (RetailWeb,2013)

1.85mm ... Karakal Super Pu ... (With Digital Micrometer, Love50,2010)

1.90mm ... Babolat Uptake ... (BabolatWebsite, 2013)
1.90mm ... Pro's Pro Super Ridge ... (RetailWebsite,2013)
1.90mm ... Pro's Pro Hyper Power ... (RetailWebsite,2013)
1.90mm ... Tecnifibre X-Tra Feel ... (TW Retail Info, 2013)
1.90mm ... Babolat Syntec Pro ...(BabolatWebsite, 2013)
1.90mm ... Gosen Nano (MG-40) ... (With Digital Micrometer, Love50,2010)
1.90mm ... Babolat Syntec Pro French Open ...(BabolatWebsite,2013)

2.00mm ... Babolat Syntec Touch ...(BabolatWebsite, 2013)
2.00mm ... Wilson Shock Shield ... (WilsonWebsite,2012)
2.00mm ... Wilson Cushion Aire Sponge ... (WilsonWebsite,2013)
2.00mm ... MSV Soft Tac Perforated ... (RetailWebsite,2013)
2.00mm ... MSV Soft Tac Embossed ... (RetailWebsite,2013)
2.00mm ... Signum Pro Sponge ... (RetailWebsite)

2.10mm ... Tecnifibre X-tra Full ... (TW Retail Info,2013)
2.10mm ... Babolat Syntec Soft ...(Babolat Website,2013)
2.10mm ... Head Hydrosorb Comfort ...(HeadWebsite,2013)

2.20mm ... Wilson Comfort Hybrid ... (WilsonWebsite,2013)
2.20mm ... Pro's Pro Hyper Cushion ... (RetailWebsite,2013)
1.6-2.6mm ... Yonex Premium Comfort ... (YonexWebsite, 2013)


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OverGrips / OverWraps, Thickness

Note: So far, all overgrip digits were obtained from manufacturers websites,
online retail sites, or product packaging.

0.33mm ... Kimony High Soft EX Ultra Thin
0.35-0.40.. Babolat VS Original ... (With Digital Micrometer, Love50,2010)
0.38mm ... Kirschbaum Touch It Ultra Thin
0.44mm ... Babolat VS Original (Published Specs differ, some indicate 0.40mm)
0.45mm ... Head Pro
0.45mm ... Pacific Grip-A-Round

0.50mm ... Pacific Original
0.50mm ... Pacific Over tack
0.50mm ... Pacific Air Feel
0.50mm ... Signum Pro Tour
0.50mm ... Tecnifibre Pro Players
0.50mm ... Pro's Pro Super Tacky
0.50mm ... Pro's Pro Soft Thin
0.50mm ... Head Xtreme Soft
0.50mm ... Head Super Comp
0.50mm ... Mantis Performa Tac
0.50mm ... MSV Cyber Wet
0.50mm ... MSV Skin

0.55mm ... Pacific X Tack Pro
0.55mm ... Pacific XTR
0.55mm ... Babolat Pro Team Tacky
0.55mm ... Babolat Pro Tour Traction
0.55mm ... Babolat Pro Team SP
0.55mm ... Wilson Pro ... (With Digital Micrometer, Love50,2010)
0.55mm ... Wilson Pro
0.55mm ... Wilson Pro Perforated
0.55mm ... Wilson Advantage
0.55mm ... Wilson Profile
0.55mm ... Volkl Super Grip II ... (With Digital Micrometer, Love50,2010)

0.60mm ... Mantis Performa Perforated
0.60mm ... Pro's Pro Ichiban
0.60mm ... Pro Supex Premier Soft
0.60mm ... Pro Supex Max Soft
0.60mm ... Pro Supex Extreme Soft
0.60mm ... Signum Pro Wet
0.60mm ... Solinco Wonder Grip
0.60mm ... Yonex Super Grap
0.60mm ... Solinco Heaven Grip
0.60mm ... Head Prestige Pro
0.60mm ... Babolat Pro Tour
0.60mm ... Babolat Incense
0.60mm ... Tecnifibre Pro Contact
0.60mm ... Technifibre NanoSkin

0.70mm ... Pacific Control Tack
0.70mm ... Pro Supex Tacky Soft
0.70mm ... Tecnifibre ATP Pro
0.70mm ... Pro's Pro Comet
0.70mm ... Pro's Pro Ultimate

0.75mm ... Pro's Pro Premium
0.75mm ... Pro Supex Dura Soft
0.75mm ... Pro's Pro Aqua Zorb Plus
0.75mm ... Pro's Pro Soft Dura
0.75mm ... Signum Pro Magic Grip
0.75mm ... Tecnifibre Overlast
0.75mm ... Tyger Challenge
0.75mm ... Topspin Top Grip

0.80mm ... Pacific Softy Grip
1.00mm ... Dunlop HydraMax
1.00mm ... Kimony Double Thickness Wet
1.35mm ... Yonex Towel Grip (100% Cotton)(Good Luck With That)
0.6-2.6mm ... Yonex Wave Grap


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Requests For Missing Thickness Digits

Missing Replacement Grips:
Dunlop Leather ... (ChicagoJack, 6-11-2013)
Becker Leather ... (ChicagoJack, 6-11-2013)(Muppet,6-20-13)

Dunlop Hydramax (Stock Aerogel Grip) ... (Rozroz, 6-15-13)
Dunlop Gecko Tac ... (MaXXply, 6-7-2013)
Dunlop Tour ... (Payam,6-8-2013)
Gamma High Tech (Standard) ... (Muppet 6-20-13)

Missing OverGrips:
Dunlop Viper Dry ... (Muppet,6-20-13)
One overgrip to add to the list: Tru Tack from Tier One Sports (thickness: 0.75mm) :)
 

ChicagoJack

Hall of Fame
^

Okay cool, thanks for those digits, much appreciated! ;) List has been updated. By the way, welcome to the board. Great to see more company reps hanging in the TW Forum. We have always had reps here, but since they operated a bit undercover it always created some tension. Now we have officials (distinguished as such) from Babolat, Kniessel, now Tier One. I support the the trend and am certain the possibilities for two way conversations are mutually beneficial to both consumer and supplier.

-Jack
 
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ChicagoJack

Hall of Fame
Hmm...

Now this is a puzzler. MSV has leather grips. Kind of a surprise in and of itself, but the weird part is that leather is almost entirely perforated. The other thing that has furrowed my brow is, while I can't see the all of the gold lettering, it looks like the last half of the words " Balmforth Of England" which of course is where the infamous Fairway grips are made. Check it:



-Jack
 
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Hmm...

Now this is a puzzler. MSV has leather grips. Kind of a surprise in and of itself, but the weird part is that leather is almost entirely perforated. The other thing that has furrowed my brow is, while I can't see the all of the gold lettering, it looks like the last half of the words " Balmforth Of England" which of course is where the infamous Fairway grips are made. Check it:



-Jack
I do not like the perforated leather grips. The one I have weighs 28g trimmed which does not make sense to me. It's a Neumann and not a Fairway though
 

JackDalton

New User
Hi JackDalton, Yup, I missed all of those measurements from robbo1970. Excellent find, I've updated the list. Much appreciated!
Hi, sorry it took me a so long to reply, I've been away for a while. Good that I could help, even if those measurements weren't done by me.

I'm afraid I was a bit unclear in my previous message. I also meant to say that I think you forgot to add the head syn grip measurements corners posted earlier in this thread:
Trimmed for size 2:

Yonex white base from Rdis 200 13.7g ("Yonex synthetic grip")
Dunlop Gecko Tac 12.8g
Volkl Leather (Black) 24.7g
Head Synthetic Leather 12.5g (Head says 1.75mm thick)
 

Torres

Banned
Another measurement for Wilson Pro Hybrid. 24.9g and 20.6g straight out of the packet, untrimmed etc.

Talk about super inconsistent....
 
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Torres

Banned
Wilson Shockshield - straight out of packet, untrimmed etc - 29g

Made up of as follows:-

Clear cellophane wrapper - 0.5g
Included Wilson grip tape - 0.5g
Thin random foam piece - 0.2g
Grip with wax backing paper - 27.7g

Another Wilson Pro Hybrid - untrimmed 23.7g (grip 23.2g with wax backing paper 0.5g)
 
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ChicagoJack

Hall of Fame
Wilson Shockshield - straight out of packet, untrimmed etc - 29g

Made up of as follows:-

Clear cellophane wrapper - 0.5g
Included Wilson grip tape - 0.5g
Thin random foam piece - 0.2g
Grip with wax backing paper - 27.7g

Another Wilson Pro Hybrid - untrimmed 23.7g (grip 23.2g with wax backing paper 0.5g)

List has been updated, thanks!
 

Torres

Banned
I find myself regularly referring back to this thread for that HL balance scale and everytime I'm considering buying a racquet or thinking about potential tweaks.

The info is turning out to be surprisingly useful to thanks CJ for starting it.
 
I find myself regularly referring back to this thread for that HL balance scale and everytime I'm considering buying a racquet or thinking about potential tweaks.

The info is turning out to be surprisingly useful to thanks CJ for starting it.
Agreed. It's a goldmine of info. Hey CJ, what's your take on the Donnay Leather? I pulled one off an old Borg racquet ( fairly new). I really like it, I'm trying to decide between Donnay leather, Prince Calfskin, or Prince leather grips from the Pro
 

ChicagoJack

Hall of Fame
I find myself regularly referring back to this thread for that HL balance scale and everytime I'm considering buying a racquet or thinking about potential tweaks.The info is turning out to be surprisingly useful to thanks CJ for starting it.
Hi Torres. No problemo :) It's been fun, and it's been a collective effort for sure. You've been a major contributor to the thread, and I'm sure many appreciate your participation here as well.

Agreed. It's a goldmine of info. Hey CJ, what's your take on the Donnay Leather? I pulled one off an old Borg racquet ( fairly new). I really like it, I'm trying to decide between Donnay leather, Prince Calfskin, or Prince leather grips from the Pro
Hi bt johnson -

Regarding Donnay leather, it's a good news / bad news kind of thing. I purchased four new leather grips because I really liked the feel and tack of the stock leather grips on the Donnay X-99 Blues, and x-99 Blacks that I purchased in used condition. The first thing I noticed is the grips that arrived new in the box were a much richer color than the somewhat faded color on my used Donnay frames, and the new leather seemed to have less tack.

The first time I changed an overgrip I understood why. Much of the die color came off as I unraveled it. See pics attached. While that is disappointing in terms of QC and appearance, the good news is it feels better, is more tacky as it ages, fades, and gets beat up a bit. Might explain why I like the feel of the old leather vs the new leather freshly installed.

I'm happy to use bare leather for the fall and winter indoor seasons, so tack is an important issue for me. The Prince Calfskins that I tried out last year were just stunningly beautiful. A very unique deep chocolate color, really striking on an all black minimalist frame like the Donnay Pro One, but were just a complete disaster with the slightest hint of perspiration. The aged/faded Donnay leather gets more even tacky with a little perspiration, but then there is a point where bare leather just does not work at all.

One last thing, the leather on that Borg racquet of yours is not really a useful comparison point. The Donnay that had it's heyday in the tennis boom years, and manufactured racquets in Belgium went bankrupt, and bears little resemblance to the Donnay of today. The new line of frames is largely the brain child of Roman Prokes, and is run by a group out of NY which is licensing the brand.

Hope that helps!

-Jack





 
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ChicagoJack

Hall of Fame
Does anyone have the thickness for the Prince Resi Pro Replacement grip?
Anyone have specs on the pro Kennex leather grip that comes on the heritage redondo?
hi brad, djNEiGht

I've added those two grips to the request for specs list on the first page.

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Requests For Missing Thickness Digits

Missing Replacement Grips:
Dunlop Leather ... (ChicagoJack, 6-11-2013)
Becker Leather ... (ChicagoJack, 6-11-2013)(Muppet,6-20-13)
Pro Kennex Leather/Heritage Redondo ... (djNEiGht, 7-20-13)

Dunlop Hydramax (Stock Aerogel Grip) ... (Rozroz, 6-15-13)
Dunlop Gecko Tac ... (MaXXply, 6-7-2013)
Dunlop Tour ... (Payam,6-8-2013)
Gamma High Tech (Standard) ... (Muppet 6-20-13)
Prince Resi Pro ... (bradsm01,8-8-13)

Missing OverGrips:
Dunlop Viper Dry ... (Muppet,6-20-13)

-Jack
 
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lgbalfa

Professional
i could not find it on here but can someone tell me the thickness of the dunlop leather grip?

thanks
 

robbo1970

Hall of Fame
Dunlop leather grip.......here we go!

Now, in my excitement in putting this on I forgot to weigh it untrimmed, but then I thought "hey, who has an untrimmed grip on their racket".

It is the same thickness as a Babolat skin feel, so without splitting hairs, 1.5mm and installed onto my Bio300 it added exactly 11g in weight.

I have another to put onto my other Bio300 so I will weigh it untrimmed.

Watch this space.....
 

lgbalfa

Professional
Dunlop leather grip.......here we go!

Now, in my excitement in putting this on I forgot to weigh it untrimmed, but then I thought "hey, who has an untrimmed grip on their racket".

It is the same thickness as a Babolat skin feel, so without splitting hairs, 1.5mm and installed onto my Bio300 it added exactly 11g in weight.

I have another to put onto my other Bio300 so I will weigh it untrimmed.

Watch this space.....
how does it feel?

for a leather grip, softer than others or just as firm?

thanks
 

robbo1970

Hall of Fame
how does it feel?

for a leather grip, softer than others or just as firm?

thanks
It has a softness. Obviously firmer than a firm synthetic grip, bit in my experience, softer than Wilson leather and softer than Gamma (which feels very firm).
 

Torres

Banned
Angell grips.

All untrimmed with cellophane.

Leather 33.1g
Synthetic 19.4g and 18.6g

Stock synthetic grip 15.4g trimmed/fitted (removed from a stock Angell TC100 G3)

(Slightly OT but word of warning about the Angell orange synthetic grip. I thought it would be orange/brown like a leather grip but its very bright fluorescent orange. Not what I expected at all)
 
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ChicagoJack

Hall of Fame
Whoo hoo! Finally some digits on the elusive Angell and Dunlop grips. Much appreciated. I will update the big list asap. Thanks Torres, robbo :)

Jack
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Dunlop leather grip.......here we go!

It is the same thickness as a Babolat skin feel, so without splitting hairs, 1.5mm and installed onto my Bio300 it added exactly 11g in weight.
Dunlop leather grip untrimmed - 25g
Have you ever also tried the TW Private Label leather grips? If so, how does it compare to the Dunlop leather grip?

I'm just surprised that the Dunlop leather grip is the same 1.5mm as the thicker TW grip, yet weighs so much less. From the master list, it looks like the TW 1.5mm grips are 30g or above, but the Dunlop grip is only 25g?

How is the quality of the Dunlop grip compared to other leather grips? Does it seem like dense, solid leather (not flimsy)?

Thanks.
 

robbo1970

Hall of Fame
Have you ever also tried the TW Private Label leather grips? If so, how does it compare to the Dunlop leather grip?

I'm just surprised that the Dunlop leather grip is the same 1.5mm as the thicker TW grip, yet weighs so much less. From the master list, it looks like the TW 1.5mm grips are 30g or above, but the Dunlop grip is only 25g?

How is the quality of the Dunlop grip compared to other leather grips? Does it seem like dense, solid leather (not flimsy)?

Thanks.
I'm in the UK so have not tried the TW grips.

Maybe the Dunlop is a little shorter in it's pre-trimmed form that gives it a lower weight....not sure.

The quality of the Dunlop leather is the best I have seen. I have tried Wilson, Prince and Gamma and the Dunlop just has a better feel and quality about it.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
I'm in the UK so have not tried the TW grips.

Maybe the Dunlop is a little shorter in it's pre-trimmed form that gives it a lower weight....not sure.

The quality of the Dunlop leather is the best I have seen. I have tried Wilson, Prince and Gamma and the Dunlop just has a better feel and quality about it.
Thanks for the reply robbo.

Any chance you could post a picture of the Dunlop leather grip installed? I'm trying to get a better sense of the actual color. How dark is it? It's hard to tell from the pic of it inside the package.

Thank!
 

UncleRico.

New User
Was looking for a resource to regrip my new IG Speeds from the weirdly mushy Hydrosorbs. I found an old set of Pro Supex leathers I wanted to put on my old LM Radicals but never got around to it. Popped those bad boys on the scale:

29g, untrimmed, with all the backing and finishing tape and such on it still.
 

alpinenut

New User
Head Hydrosorb Pro trimmed to size 3 14g
Head Leather Tour Untrimmed with tape and plastic 27g. Trimmed to size 3 24g.
Gamma Supreme Untrimmed with tape and plastic 8g. Installed but not trimmed over size 3 Heather Leather Tour 8g.
 

robbo1970

Hall of Fame
I'm trying to find out the widths of a few leather grips.

Particularly the following:

Wilson
Head
Babolat

does anyone have this info please?
 

robbo1970

Hall of Fame
Thanks for the reply robbo.

Any chance you could post a picture of the Dunlop leather grip installed? I'm trying to get a better sense of the actual color. How dark is it? It's hard to tell from the pic of it inside the package.

Thank!
Hi BP, I've got camera issues at the moment. However, the Dunlop Tour Classic leather grip (which I am using) is a darker brown colour than the more common tan leather grips around. I would describe it as milk chocolate.

I was using Gamma, which is a very firm leather grip, whereas the Dunlop has a quality, plushness to it...if you know what I mean.

One thing I do notice with leather grips is that the feel does change over time as the seem to contract a little and firm up. Hence the instructions that come with Fairways on how to retain the feel etc.
 

robbo1970

Hall of Fame
Just saw on another retailer website that they have the Dunlop Tour Classic leather listed as being 1.5mm thick
 

Lukhas

Legend
Pro's Pro Aquazorb 55 listed at 0.55mm thickness. I weighed it at 4grams, be it installed on my frame (didn't cut any of it) or straight out of the box. I have some Ichiban too, but they have a plastic reel inside it, so measuring it like this would be pointless.

My Wilson Comfort Hybrids are at 10 grams after being cut and installed on my frame.
 

robbo1970

Hall of Fame
Prince DuraSoft - 2.4mm

Not sure of the weight, just got this info from some research into thick grips. This has to be one of the thickest.
 

ChicagoJack

Hall of Fame
Hi robbo, Thanks! much appreciated. The big list on the first page has been updated. Yonex makes the premium comfort which has a slightly contoured profile so it's 1.6 - 2.6mm. But as far as I know, that's a new record for flat grips. - Jack
 

SFrazeur

Legend
I bought a Kimony Techni Leather grip (0.8mm) and like a fool I forgot to get the weight.

Kimony USA does list the following specs:

-Thickness:0.8mm
-Width:25mm
-Length:107cm
-Weight: 10 grams
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Hi BP, I've got camera issues at the moment. However, the Dunlop Tour Classic leather grip (which I am using) is a darker brown colour than the more common tan leather grips around. I would describe it as milk chocolate.

I was using Gamma, which is a very firm leather grip, whereas the Dunlop has a quality, plushness to it...if you know what I mean.

One thing I do notice with leather grips is that the feel does change over time as the seem to contract a little and firm up. Hence the instructions that come with Fairways on how to retain the feel etc.
OK, thanks for the info, robbo. :)
 
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