Let's give preferences on the Sinner-Alcaraz rivalry on the individual Frankenstein aspects

[Winner Sinner]

I'm new to the forum and I've already opened 3 threads in a short time to satisfy my curiosities. I promise to calm down immediately.
I don't know if this topic has already been opened in the past, in this case I should archive it. If this were the case, this simplistic question is actually an excuse to focus on individual aspects in the comparison. Let's get started;

Service= Sinner
Return= Tie
Forehand = Equality
Backhand = Sinner
Manual skill = Alcaraz
Volée = Alcaraz
Athleticism= Alcaraz
Mentality = Equality

There will be time and opportunity to better develop the various preferences. In this post I just want to specify some points that might make many people turn up their noses. First of all the forehand, I think that Alcaraz's forehand is much more lethal when he is given time to hit it, but if forced to take it in more dynamic situations it is much more foul than Sinner's, which is why I gave the comparison an equal. On the return, however, every time I see them play I continually change my opinion. Alcaraz's is certainly more aggressive and therefore also more subject to ups and downs, while Sinner's is more aimed at giving himself an advantage in starting the exchange. To close I also want to specify the athletic part, obviously automatic preference to Alcaraz even if Sinner compared to his type of structure is in my opinion also a player with half athletic degrees. In general he is less quick and explosive than Alcaraz but on his part he has a better ability to juggle situations of apparent precarious balance. Mentality, here too it is difficult to compare. For Sinner he has more ability to subvert a disadvantaged situation from the point of view of inertia, Alcaraz as seen several times this year when he is not in control of a match he can founder. On the contrary, Alcaraz has more of a killer's instinct which leads him to win those hard-fought matches more often, a killer's instinct which, although it has grown, is still somewhat lacking in Sinner.

 

[ibbi]

There's no way I'd take Sinner for the forehand. I get what you're saying, kind of, but though it happens less often than it used to, Sinner's forehand is still the part of his game that seems most likely to falter in the big moment/match when put under pressure. Not a common occurrence, of course, but we're comparing it to Alcaraz's, who when it's on he is kind of unplayable.

I know it was forever ago in Sinner terms, but I can't get over that Wimbledon SF with Novak last year, where he really played quite well, it's just every single time that Djokovic targetted the forehand in a key moment, he got an unforced error.

Mentality is difficult, because like you point out, there are many aspects to it. Sinner is definitely the more steadily calm of the two, which can come in handy, but Alcaraz's big match nerve is on another level, his eye of the tiger, and I'll always give that the edge between the two.

So I'd give those two to Carlos, but I'd agree on the rest. Might give the return to Sinner too, though I have no idea what the numbers are. It seems the more consistently stronger shot between the two of them, even if Alcaraz can sometimes get very hot.

 

[Winner Sinner]

There's no way I'd take Sinner for the forehand. I get what you're saying, kind of, but though it happens less often than it used to, Sinner's forehand is still the part of his game that seems most likely to falter in the big moment/match when put under pressure. Not a common occurrence, of course, but we're comparing it to Alcaraz's, who when it's on he is kind of unplayable.

I know it was forever ago in Sinner terms, but I can't get over that Wimbledon SF with Novak last year, where he really played quite well, it's just every single time that Djokovic targetted the forehand in a key moment, he got an unforced error.

Mentality is difficult, because like you point out, there are many aspects to it. Sinner is definitely the more steadily calm of the two, which can come in handy, but Alcaraz's big match nerve is on another level, his eye of the tiger, and I'll always give that the edge between the two.

So I'd give those two to Carlos, but I'd agree on the rest. Might give the return to Sinner too, though I have no idea what the numbers are. It seems the more consistently stronger shot between the two of them, even if Alcaraz can sometimes get very hot.

Yes, for a long time Sinner's forehand in the two fundamental baselines was the most fouled, it still is, except that there is much less discrepancy. Obviously all this has a plausible explanation as the forehand is his least natural shot. Having said this, in the last year the solidity of his forehand has grown enormously, in fact I make the comparison on current events rather than in terms of history. It cannot be ruled out that in the next few years some aspects of the comparison may be reversed as the two are potentially still in a phase of evolution. However, in this 2024, especially in the first half of the season, Sinner's forehand, according to the ratings given by the ATP, was by far the most efficient on the circuit (it still is but perhaps less accentuated).

PS
You mentioned the 2023 Wimbledon semifinal against Djokovic which is a match for the Turin final, even on that occasion the Serbian hit Sinner's forehand to give himself an advantageous position.

 

[CHillTennis]

Alcaraz is overall a little bit better than Sinner.

Sinner probably couldn't win anything if he played 15 years ago. I doubt that Alcaraz would do much better.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Service= Sinner
Return= Alcaraz
Forehand = Alcaraz
Backhand = Sinner
Defense = Sinner
Volley = Alcaraz
Speed= Alcaraz
Stamina = Alcaraz
Under pressure = Alcaraz
Focus = Sinner

 

[Winner Sinner]

Service= Sinner
Return= Alcaraz
Forehand = Alcaraz
Backhand = Sinner
Defense = Sinner
Volley = Alcaraz
Speed= Alcaraz
Stamina = Alcaraz
Under pressure = Alcaraz
Focus = Sinner

Sinner Defense?
Very very surprised(and I'm not saying that's a crazy point of view).

 

[nolefam_2024]

Sinner Defense?
Very very surprised(and I'm not saying that's a crazy point of view).

Yes movement wise Raz is faster but Sinner is so smooth and he will hit neutralizing strokes. I am very scared of Sinner as a nolefam, not Carlos.