Let's predict the WTF 2017 line up

Whom would NOT reach the WTF


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Bukmeikara

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Djokovic and Murray are the obvious rock solid choices, so .. 2/8.

Nishikori, Raonic and Thiem should get in given their career trajectory-potential and probably the only way some of them would "fail" is to get injuried - so let's say that on average two of them would make it. 4/8

Kyrgios, Zverev - I am quite sure that if playing full schedule Kyrgios would get in, Zverev is more an enigma but given his level of play recently and the fact that most players infront of him are seniours that are bound to lose their ranking ... somehow I have a feeling that he would be top 8 by the end of the year. 6/8

Federer - I have huge respect for Federer but I don't consider myself a blind fanboy. He would be motivated, he has the game and most importanly "the serve" which would help him to find his mojo. If he is injury free post US he should be in a decent enough form to collect 2000k points which are like 50-60% of the points he need to reach the WTF. 7/8

Cilic, Wawrinka, Nadal, Dimitrov - Grigor is too "soft" and unless he "peaks" for some Slam win or early Master title which should boost his confidence he would hardly get in. Cilic given his quality should make it but Marins "mind" often lets him down and you never know with him. Wawrinka is Wawrinka and the fact that he would have his good ranking till September he should "peak" at 1-2 events to gather enough points. Personaly I think its between Marin and Stan so my bold prediction for next year is that Nadal wont reach the WTF as top 8 - best case scenario he wins RG and make it as a top 20 player!

I forgot Del Potro, so Stan/CIlic/Zverev probably wont make the WTF either :)
 
Only two picks :mad: Wanted to pick: Thiem, Cilic, Kyrgios and Zverev.

Thiem will get injured with his overloaded schedule. Zverev is not ready to break through to the top 10. Kyrgios well I wouldn't be shocked if he quits tennis next year or plays a severely limited schedule. Cilic well who knows with him. He'd have to win a Masters or reach a slam SF to have a shot next year.
 
Pretty much the same line-up+Fed and Nadal.
Big 4 reunited+Nishikori+Raonic+hopefully Zverev and Kyrgios.

Wawrinka is the only question mark for next year.
Without escaping the Evans match in the USO,I am not sure if he would have qualified for WTF this year.
 
Djokovic
Murray
Federer
Nadal

Raonic
Nishikori
Wawrinka
Goffin

Alternate : Kyrgios, Thiem,Zverev,Cilic
 
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Federer didn't take a 6 month break to play for 2 more months. He's in.
Nadal will probably string a couple of decent tournaments.
Djokovic and Murray obviously in.
Raonic and Nishikori are good enough to consistently beat players below the top 10.

So there are 2 more spots to fill. I'm not sure Wawrinka will win another Slam and that's basically what gets him in the WTF. If you take out his US Open points he's not in the top 8. Maybe one last time for him if he reaches some Slam quarters or semis.

Zverev will be ranked 10-15 at the end of 2017, too early for him. Kyrgios will keep mugging around. Thiem will have a similar year but won't make it this time. I'm saying Cilic because the dude seems to be reaching his top level a lot more consistently now.

I'm wondering why no-one mentions Lucas Pouille? He's been under the radar for the last year even despite beating a pretty well playing Nadal at the US Open. 22 years old, ranked in the top 15. There's potential for a top 10 finish and maybe a WTF qualification.
 
Probably same as this year with Nadal and Rog taking Thiem's and Monfils' spot.

But let's say that Fedal won't make a comeback, youngsters will advance or get their act together and the oldies will finally surrender. We might end up with:
Nole, Murray, Pouille, Cilic, Goffin, Kyrgios, Zverev and Cilic. Still two pushers there, but 2018 will take care of that.
 
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Djokovic
Murray
Nishikori
Raonic
Del Potro
Nadal
Goffin
Thiem
1st alternate : Federer
2nd alternate : Dimitrov
 
Fedal already with healthy point totals.(Fed nearly in) Murrovic locks.

Raonic, Stan and Kei all top players.

Dimitrov looking good. Zvervev will go close imo

We have not even seen Delpo yet!
 
Fedal already with healthy point totals.(Fed nearly in) Murrovic locks.

Raonic, Stan and Kei all top players.

Dimitrov looking good. Zvervev will go close imo

We have not even seen Delpo yet!

SexiGOAT has already qualified as a slam winner. It just isn't official yet.
 
Federer (lock)
Nadal
Djokovic
Murray
Wawrinka
Dimitrov
Nishikori
Raonic

Zverev narrowly misses out and will be alternates alongside Goffin, but can easily see RaoMUG dropping out of the lineup. Thiem will disappoint this year.

Delpo will probably land somewhere around #11-13.
 
Federer (lock)
Nadal
Djokovic
Murray
Wawrinka
Dimitrov
Nishikori
Raonic

Zverev narrowly misses out and will be alternates alongside Goffin, but can easily see RaoMUG dropping out of the lineup. Thiem will disappoint this year.

Delpo will probably land somewhere around #11-13.

Obviously it's a long season but based on what we've seen thus far I agree 100% with your calls and comments...like always Wawrinka is probably the biggest question mark but due to the inconsistency of others and his ability to pull a big result he'll probably make it.
 
I could see Federer getting back to number 1 this year.

AO - 2000
Dubai - 500
IW - 360-600
Miami - 180-360
Clay season - 540-720 (easy free points here)
Stuttgart - 250
Halle - 500
Wimbledon 720+
Cincinatti - 1000
USO 720+
Shanghai 360
Basel - 500
WTF - 800-1000


My modest estimates put him at year end 8930 points.

My optimistic estimate would be 9530. And that's giving him only SF/SF at Wimbledon and USO. 1 final and he's at 10,010. 1 win and he's at 10,810 which would easily be enough to be YE#1 as no way are Murrovic repeating 2016 where they won every big event pretty much apart from Stan taking USO.
 
Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Murray all four for obvious reasons!

Nishikori and Raonic

Stan and Dimitrov probably
 
Isnt Fed a lock already

Almost. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the only way Federer can miss the WTF's now is if he doesn't make the top 8 and someone else ranks higher than him (but also not in the top 8) and wins 1 of the other 3 slams.

So say someone like Cilic won the USO and was ranked 9 before the WTF's while Federer finished 10th. Then Cilic would get in over Federer.
 
I could see Federer getting back to number 1 this year.

AO - 2000
Dubai - 500
IW - 360-600
Miami - 180-360
Clay season - 540-720 (easy free points here)
Stuttgart - 250
Halle - 500
Wimbledon 720+
Cincinatti - 1000
USO 720+
Shanghai 360
Basel - 500
WTF - 800-1000


My modest estimates put him at year end 8930 points.

My optimistic estimate would be 9530. And that's giving him only SF/SF at Wimbledon and USO. 1 final and he's at 10,010. 1 win and he's at 10,810 which would easily be enough to be YE#1 as no way are Murrovic repeating 2016 where they won every big event pretty much apart from Stan taking USO.

As much as I'd love that to happen, I don't think it will. I somehow don't see Federer winning five+ titles more. Maybe he will, but I have a hard time imagining it actually. And I think he will lose early somewhere he shouldn't. With that said, I truly think he can win either of Wimbledon and US Open. I just don't see the week in, week out consistency over the entire year.
 
Federer is In, Dimitrov is 75% In if not for injuries. 2/8. Zverev and Nadal are also making a serious claim. Del Potro is probably out unless he wins a Slam. One thing is for sure - we have an incredible season infront of us!
 
I still think Djokovic is already retired and living in Goa in his heart and mind, waving glo-sticks with hippy teenagers and painting seashells. I doubt he'll ever get another sniff at the top.
 
Obviously it's a long season but based on what we've seen thus far I agree 100% with your calls and comments...like always Wawrinka is probably the biggest question mark but due to the inconsistency of others and his ability to pull a big result he'll probably make it.

Stan is still consistent in slams (his last real bad loss in a slam was RG 14 against GGL in 1R, otherwise the other early losses were AO 16 4R against Raonic and Wimbledon 16 2R against Delpo. Rafa had terrible results in slams last year but didn't he make the cut off but just had to pull out? Can't see Stan missing it tbh he'll probably end up around #5 again.
 
Federer is In, Dimitrov is 75% In if not for injuries. 2/8. Zverev and Nadal are also making a serious claim. Del Potro is probably out unless he wins a Slam. One thing is for sure - we have an incredible season infront of us!

And Federer made sure at the AO we get no Bendych this year either!
 
Here are my projected top 8 qualifiers (some might not play though) for WTF, in no particular order

1) Federer (I guess winning a slam will get him in in some way or another)
2) Nadal (alreayd good points from AO, will make enough in clay season to get there i'd think)
3) Murray (he's been very consistent of late, AO I think was a one off)
4) Djokovic (I believe he will decline some more this year, but I can't fathom he'd drop that low to not qualify. Might not play it though and opt for a holiday instead)
5) Wawrinka (still consistent in slams, although some weaknesses are opening up, I think last year he qualifies)
6) Nishikori (still in good form, consistent results although won't win anything big)
7) Dimitrov (great form and consistency right now, a man reborn)
8) Zverev (can't think of anyone else, he seems to be rapidly improving and gaining consistency, beating former top 10 players like Gasquet and Tsonga)


Why not these players:

1) Kyrgios (should start actually playing before we even consider him for WTF)
2) Raonic (will get injured too often and when he isn't will get beaten time and time again by the 8 players mentioned above, I think he's peaked last year)
3) Bendych (now that Fed made him drop out of the top 10, no more cakewalk draws for him in to slam quarters and semis, he will have to beat the big boys now if he wants to get that far)
4) Thiem (far too weak outside clay, still struggling to find a gameplan and schedule that works consistently throughout the year)
 
Fedr
Djok
Muzz
RaoMUG
Sushikori
Nads
Slam Wawrinka
Baby Fedr

These are making the list. In that exact order. No real youngsters.
 
Nadal Federer Murray Djokovic
Wawrinka Dimitrov Nishikori Raonic
Hopefully Del Potro/Zverev instead of Nishikori/Raonic who have proven themselves not to be able to seriously challenge the world's elite
 
Djokovic, Murray are sure to be there.

Federer and Nadal as well. Federer might as well already be there - winning AO almost guarantees that spot. For example last year in the YE ranking #6 was Cilic with 3600 odd points. Hard to imagine, barring injury, Federer not being able to win 1600 odd points to qualify.

Nadal with 1200 already and the clay season should easily be there as well.

So that 4 is set.

Wawrinka should be guaranteed as well.

Then Cilic IMO will get there. Nishikori and Raonic as well, come the HC season.

Of course Dimitrov, Kyrgios, Berdych or Tsonga can claim one of the last 2 spots.
 
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