Let's settle this for once and all
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Forgive Me Father
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I genuinely thought wed be past these weird takes.
Alcawrath
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NeutralFan
G.O.A.T.
Doesn't athleticism also include height? give Sinner's height to Carlos and see how he will dominate, without good height he struggles to hold his serve. Sinner was chasing every ball and defending well last night and rattled Carlos. Carlos was the one who was aggressor last night.
BeatlesFan
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If Carlos wins RG tomorrow, he'll have 3 slams on 3 different surfaces at age 21. Sinner will be 23 in August. Anyone claiming Sinner is the better player should take a seat in the corner and just shut up. They have no argument, at least as it stands right now.
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BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Did you see enough of their semifinal match yesterday?
Asking for a distant acquaintance.
You must also have been napping when they played at IW this year.
Checkmate
Legend
Did you see enough of their semifinal match yesterday?
Asking for a distant acquaintance.
You must also have been napping when they played at IW this year.
One sided opening sets lose my interest. I shut down my stream after the opening set yesterday.
NeutralFan
G.O.A.T.
Your final prediction? Son!!
Poisoned Slice
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Sentinel
Bionic Poster
let's settle this once and for all
in another thread we discussed about federer slowing down. let's settle this. i will start by mentioning the sifference between prime and post prime when a player is in his prime he can bring his peak level of play at most of the tournaments like federer did in 2004-2007. but after the end...
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NeutralFan
G.O.A.T.
Disagree, Sinner is a better player and a better athelete ( taller , more court coverage )
Shaolin
Talk Tennis Guru
Checkmate
Legend
Zverev in four or three.
CHillTennis
Hall of Fame
Don't care.Sinner - The Better Tennis Player
Alcaraz - The Better Athlete
Shaolin
Talk Tennis Guru
Meles
Bionic Poster
Sorry, but I had no access to this site for the last three days. Finally tried a VPN today and was able to get back in. We'll just have to see what the stats were once tennis abstract finally gets them, which might take a week or two.
Checkmate
Legend
This has to be the lowest level Champion of Past 20 years. Every second ball overhit, horrible shanking on every third ball. What a pathetic state of tennis.
Shaolin
Talk Tennis Guru
AlecG
Semi-Pro
Sinner - The Better Tennis Player
Alcaraz - The Better Athlete
I'd almost say the opposite.
Alcaraz: the more talented, more skilled tennis player.
Sinner: the taller, more consistent tennis player (more consistent in power, avoiding unforced errors, and avoiding reckless injuries)
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socallefty
G.O.A.T.
They both have good technique and power with few weaknesses. Alcaraz is the better tennis player BECAUSE he is the better athlete. If he goes into lockdown mode in the future when he is losing, he is going to be a dominant force on all surfaces with more dimensions and variety to his game than Sinner along with being much faster in movement and stronger physically. Alcaraz is slowly learning how to harness his superpowers better and the junior will be even better as an adult once he turns 21.
Wrong. Technique is the single most important piece of tennis and the foremost reason why Tsitsipas never broke through (specifically the backhand/return) even though he is simply a far superior athlete to Sinner. No amount of “mental toughness” can hide his BH weakness.
You cannot hit consistent groundstrokes without clean proper technique. Bad techniques => inconsistent game => inconsistent mental capacity.
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
Absolutely agree
Carlos is more athletic and more creative, as well as showing that he can do what Djoko and Fed did and explode out of a slump in the 4th or 5th set of big matches
socallefty
G.O.A.T.
Hear, hear! The take you are replying to is so bad that I didn’t bother to reply. The guys who win multiple Slams are typically the ones who hit with solid technique and have no real weaknesses - all their other champion qualities and standout physical attributes are built on that technique foundation. The guys who hang around the top 10-20 and never win Slams typically have technical weaknesses that are exploited by the top players and this is part of why they don’t play well under pressure in big moments because they know they have a weakness that is being exploited.
The better player lost. Once again.
Imagine the better player's capacity when he lost to a one armed and one legged Carlitos in the SF.
AlecG
Semi-Pro
I think your overall point might have merit but in what respect is Stefanos the "far superior athlete"? A height, weight or strength competition?
9 matches into their rivalries, and Alcaraz already beat Sinner twice in their second 5-setter, in familiar fashion. He came from 2-1 in sets. Sinner has to prove he can finish when 2-1 ahead. 2 of their 3 slam matches have gone 5 sets.
In contrast it took 35 matches for Nadal and Djokovic to have a second 5-setter.
In contrast it took 35 matches for Nadal and Djokovic to have a second 5-setter.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
I dont think theres anything that Sinner does better than Alcaraz except hes a bit more steady off the ground. Sinner is still like the new Berdych to me.
happyandbob
Legend
What, you can't train endurance? Endurance is literally the very first thing any human can train and improve.
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