Let's settle this, what do you think of Novak's current physical condition

Is Novak injured in this Australian Open?

  • Novak has the usual naggings all players suffer while playing at that level and they are no concern

    Votes: 70 36.3%

  • He has absolutely no injury/nagging pain whatsoever

    Votes: 26 13.5%

  • He has real injury concerns that can flare up and affect his ability to play his expected level

    Votes: 97 50.3%
  • Total voters
    193
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Since there is so much talk about Novak faking an injury while being in heavily favoured conditions form and tournament-wise.

Since the debate is so hot, let's see a statistical analysis of how many people think Djokovic is faking or exaggerating an injury and how many think he has real injury concerns and why one would think of a certain variant :)
 
If he is truly injured, he either leaves the tournament, withdraws in the middle of the match when he is losing, or simply one of his rivals defeats him categorically, taking advantage of his physical condition.
He can't keep winning matches (especially in straight sets) if his "injury" is as serious as many believe.
:D
 
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Kralingen said:
A better question would be: are you a blatant troll who wants to deny reality and stir up crap… Or do you actually watch the matches?

because you’d have to be the former to believe that he has no discomfort and that he’s fine.
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If he is not fine then why does he keep easily winning matches? (and will surely win the title)

Other players withdraw when they have injuries.
 
StrongRule said:
If he is not fine then why does he keep easily winning matches? (and will surely win the title)

Other players withdraw when they have injuries.
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Because he’s not badly injured, and the issue really only comes moving to his left explosively. His dictation level is good enough to dispatch the mugs he’s played so far (I lost count of the times Dimitrov hit the net from an advantageous position).

A real opponent will test his movement, and his stamina. The other thing is that his injury seems to be worsening.
 
He exaggerates problem, as he can still play fairly good tennis. But on the other hand it is preventing him from playing his best game, so he is probably frustrated as hell, and than injury can start hurting even more. With a little of massage it gets better for sure. And I think that injury is preventing him just enough to not win
 
Kralingen said:
Because he’s not badly injured, and the issue really only comes moving to his left explosively. His dictation level is good enough to dispatch the mugs he’s played so far (I lost count of the times Dimitrov hit the net from an advantageous position).

A real opponent will test his movement, and his stamina. The other thing is that his injury seems to be worsening.
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Couldn't say it better, I really hope Rublev will dispatch Rune in two days
 
It’s a bit of everything. He is clearly carrying a real injury and anyone who says otherwise is being silly. At some points it is obviously genuinely affecting him, and at other times is something he is hamming up a bit as a psychological crutch. Some diehard Nadal fans are going nuts because he’s a good enough player to play through it most of the time and has a nice draw so is still winning matches atm, whereas apparently injuries are only legit if you’re losing or retiring
 
Anyone who watched him play against Dimitrov saw that his movement is clearly far from hist best, especially when stretching which is one of his trademarks. He can still play for now, but it is a diminished Djokovic.

A couple of members from the Nadal's fanbase seem to be quite happy to embarrass themselves right now, they can go on and on if they want but they are dead wrong there.
 
Some acting and exaggerating in that performance from Novak, I suspect. But I don’t doubt he is actually carrying an injury.

Just imagine how Dimitrov feels tho. It’s not only that he can’t beat this guy. He can’t even win a set when the guy was pulling up and hobbling all over the place. Dimitrov did hit some brilliant shots. But overall, he played like an idiot (which, I guess is not all that surprising).
 
so easy to judge in front of the screen..
each player deals with injury different,
yes Djokovic can be extra psychological with his feelings on court
and it might look like he's not always genuine,
it's so obvious he tries to pool off the matches and pray he doesn't get a 5 setter.
he himself said now it's all up and down in a match, and surviving with painkillers.
and he almost had to be out of AO,
but decided to try see what happens.
so it's not a niggle it's a real problem,
and quite frankly i don't think he has a chance atm.
one serious match and it's game over.
 
Rozroz said:
so easy to judge in front of the screen..
each player deals with injury different,
yes Djokovic can be extra psychological with his feelings on court
and it might look like he's not always genuine,
it's so obvious he tries to pool off the matches and pray he doesn't get a 5 setter.
he himself said now it's all up and down in a match, and surviving with painkillers.
and he almost had to be out of AO,
but decided to try see what happens.
so it's not a niggle it's a real problem,
and quite frankly i don't think he has a chance atm.
one serious match and it's game over.
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Totally agree with you. One good performance and he will be out.
 
I think there’s also a misunderstanding of the nature and impact of the injury. It clearly affects him when stretching out wide to one side. But that represents a small number of points played for him. In a close match it could make a difference but if he focuses and tries to end points faster he can reduce the impact of the bother
 
GabeT said:
A forehanddtl?
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Is that what you guys are talking about in your private conversations? Another ******** mentioned that name earlier.

This place is super unwelcoming to new people. And you're by far the worst guy here.
 
HFK said:
Is that what you guys are talking about in your private conversations? Another ******** mentioned that name earlier.

This place is super unwelcoming to new people. And you're by far the worst guy here.
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Luckily you are not really “new”, are you? ;)
 
GabeT said:
You didn’t answer :unsure:
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HFK said:
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:whistle:Here’s a piece of advice. Don’t join a forum and troll nonstop from the very start. It confuses others
 
Djokovic is clearly not 100%

Is this injury extremely severe? No.

Is his level compromised to a degree? Yes, absolutely.

Here is the thing, if he loses, it will be 100% legit, injured or not. Legitimacy is not impacted this year, like it was last year.
 
It’s the 3rd option for sure. His hamstring injury is a major worry but he’s managing to just get survive for now. It keeps glaring up though and he tries to control on it but it’s just temporary with these injuries and pain tolerance.
 
Anyone who has had a serious hamstring injury knows you can not move explosively with it. At all. It's not something you can turn on and off or pick and choose to go hard. You just can't.
I imagine his hammy is tight and feels vulnerable and therefore it affects his movement (probably more mental than physical).
If it were even a moderate injury it would require weeks off to heal.
So a combo of 1 & 3.
 
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DSH said:
If he is truly injured, he either leaves the tournament, or withdraws in the middle of the match when he is losing, or simply one of his rivals defeats him categorically, taking advantage of his physical condition.
He can't keep winning matches (especially in straight sets) if his "injury" is as serious as many believe.
:D
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These are not either/or. His injured B game may well be enough to win the AO.
 
MeatTornado said:
I'm watching the 3rd set right now and it's definitely a little funny to see how within the stretch of one game he outrallies Dimitrov, stands tall and roars, but then when he loses a rally a couple points later he collapses to the ground.
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It is weirdly inconsistent. I do think he was clearly worse for wear as the match continued though, that 3rd set was played at an incredibly low level.
 
Raftacular said:
These are not either/or. His injured B game may well be enough to win the AO.
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Case in point, Pete Sampras. I guess he was faking too?


"On 9 July 2000, Sampras beat Australia's Pat Rafter in a classic SW19 final to win his 13th Grand Slam and surpass Roy Emerson's 33-year men's record.

A rain-disrupted thriller ending at 8.57pm also extended Sampras' record of Wimbledon men's singles success to a seventh title in eight years.

But there was more behind the tears.

There was relief from the mental pressure endured during two weeks where he could barely walk between matches. There was pride at achieving his ultimate goal in front of his parents, witnesses at a major title for the first time."
 
MeatTornado said:
I'm watching the 3rd set right now and it's definitely a little funny to see how within the stretch of one game he outrallies Dimitrov, stands tall and roars, but then when he loses a rally a couple points later he collapses to the ground.
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He definitely plays it up when he loses the point, saw it many times during the match. The injury is minor, imo his level is enough to get through his draw because no one in his path has the cojones to take it to him.
 
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