Lets talk rankings and possibilities

[Deleted member 55539]

Before Madrid and considering Likely scenarios depending on Nishikoris results in Barcelona.. Before madrid.. this is what it would look like..


Nishikori F loss: Minus Madrid points:
4th Nadal 5390 4th Raonic 4980
5th Nishikori 5080 5th Berdych 4780
6th Raonic 5070 6th Nishikori 4480
7th Berdych 4960 7th Nadal 4390

Nishikori Win: Minus Madrid points:
4th Nadal 5390 4th Raonic 4980
5th Nishikori 5280 5th Berdych 4780
6th Raonic 5070 6th Nishikori 4680
7th Berdych 4960 7th Nadal 4390


So i am wondering if Nadal can gain.. 600 more points than Raonic in Madrid..

If not then his world will tumble down in Rome.. he will face big 4 in QF, and then the same in Roland garros..

 

[Deleted member 55539]

All points taken out before RG:

1 Djokovic 12845
2 Federer 8375
3 Murray 5790
4 Berdych 4690
5 Raonic 4620
6 Nishikori 4270 (+410 for Barcelona title)
7 Ferrer 3950 (+320 for Barcelona title)
8 Nadal 3790
9 Wawrinka 3395


so in total nadal has to do atleast 800-1000 points better than 2 players... berdych and raonic.. which is a very very tough ask in my opinion..

so lets brace ourselves for a joker - ****** QF at RG..

 

[jwjh]

I will brace myself for a Fedal QF which will be the confidence booster Rafa will need to romp his way to RG title yet again.

 

[Inanimate_object]

There is the possibility that Stan the man has a good clay season no? Would it be enough for Nadal to lose his quarter-final protection?

 

[Deleted member 55539]

There is the possibility that Stan the man has a good clay season no? Would it be enough for Nadal to lose his quarter-final protection?

stan is not even in the picture..

 

[Russeljones]

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=529016

 

[Technology Ruined Tennis]

There is zero chance Nadal is in Jokers quarter. He will be in Fed's half.

 

[Sir Percival Blakeney]

My word, Djoker's number of points ...

 

[veroniquem]

So i am wondering if Nadal can gain.. 600 more points than Raonic in Madrid..

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Raonic is injured, so it will be piece of cake for Nadal.

 

[veroniquem]

There is zero chance Nadal is in Jokers quarter. He will be in Fed's half.

Yeah right. When was Rafa EVER in Fed's half at RG (since 2005)?

 

[tennisdad65]

Yeah right. When was Rafa EVER in Fed's half at RG (since 2005)?

probably because they were #1 and #2 till 2010... so start your argument from 2010 or 2011..

 

[veroniquem]

probably because they were #1 and #2 till 2010... so start your argument from 2010 or 2011..

I'll start my argument from whenever, no difference, Djoko always gets Nadal and when Nadal/Djoko are 1/2, Djoko gets Fed.
Whatever the configuration, Fed NEVER gets Nadal.
At this point, I believe Fed's interests are protected by contract at RG. Seriously.

 

[jm1980]

Djokovic is going to be #1 and Fed is going to be #2. This is 100% certain.

Nadal has 1600 points to defend in Madrid and Rome. He needs to defend about 1400 to safely retain a Top 4 ranking. Otherwise, he may fall to #5 - #9.

Regardless of what happens, you can rest assured Nadal will be on Djokovic's half. Maybe even Djokovic's quarter if he falls to #5 to #9

 

[Sir Percival Blakeney]

Djokovic is going to be #1 and Fed is going to be #2. This is 100% certain.

Nadal has 1600 points to defend in Madrid and Rome. He needs to defend about 1400 to safely retain a Top 4 ranking. Otherwise, he may fall to #5 - #9.

Regardless of what happens, you can rest assured Nadal will be on Djokovic's half. Maybe even Djokovic's quarter if he falls to #5 to #9

It'll be comparatively easier for Djokovic to overtake him before the final anyway, so here's hoping.

 

[jm1980]

It'll be comparatively easier for Djokovic to overtake him before the final anyway, so here's hoping.

As a Djokovic fan I'd prefer to see him play Rafa in the final than any other stage. Otherwise we might see the Michael Stich effect.

 

[Sir Percival Blakeney]

As a Djokovic fan I'd prefer to see him play Rafa in the final than any other stage. Otherwise we might see the Michael Stich effect.

An interesting thought, but I trust Djokovic's slam count has rendered him immune to the said effect.

 

[Steve0904]

The tournament organizers won't be putting Nadal in Djoker's quarter if Nadal's seed drops. Don't be silly. :lol:

They still have dreams of that being the final.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 

[jm1980]

The tournament organizers won't be putting Nadal in Djoker's quarter if Nadal's seed drops. Don't be silly. :lol:

They still have dreams of that being the final.

Just like 2013, right?

 

[Steve0904]

Just like 2013, right?

They just wanted a Frenchman to make the final that year. Trust me, Nadal-Djoker will not be a QF. That will kill not only the final, but the semi as well. They'll learn from the 2013 disaster.

 

[Inanimate_object]

They just wanted a Frenchman to make the final that year. Trust me, Nadal-Djoker will not be a QF. That will kill not only the final, but the semi as well. They'll learn from the 2013 disaster.

The French Open uses a randomized seeded draw...

 

[Steve0904]

The French Open uses a randomized seeded draw...

That's what they tell everyone.

 

[Boom-Boom]

That's what they tell everyone.

Conspiracy theory. Difficult to tell really...

 

[beast of mallorca]

Before Madrid and considering Likely scenarios depending on Nishikoris results in Barcelona.. Before madrid.. this is what it would look like..


Nishikori F loss: Minus Madrid points:
4th Nadal 5390 4th Raonic 4980
5th Nishikori 5080 5th Berdych 4780
6th Raonic 5070 6th Nishikori 4480
7th Berdych 4960 7th Nadal 4390

Nishikori Win: Minus Madrid points:
4th Nadal 5390 4th Raonic 4980
5th Nishikori 5280 5th Berdych 4780
6th Raonic 5070 6th Nishikori 4680
7th Berdych 4960 7th Nadal 4390


So i am wondering if Nadal can gain.. 600 more points than Raonic in Madrid..

If not then his world will tumble down in Rome.. he will face big 4 in QF, and then the same in Roland garros..

You are so invested in the future of Nadal. Your precious time and thoughts blow pass you by..........Nice. :twisted::twisted:

 

[jm1980]

The French Open uses a randomized seeded draw...

 

[Inanimate_object]

That's what they tell everyone.

There is no man behind the curtain...

 

[Gary Duane]

I'll start my argument from whenever, no difference, Djoko always gets Nadal and when Nadal/Djoko are 1/2, Djoko gets Fed.
Whatever the configuration, Fed NEVER gets Nadal.
At this point, I believe Fed's interests are protected by contract at RG. Seriously.

Just a side note. We were talking about ATP Match Facts. I was suggesting that they do not update more than about once a week. I just checked, and Nishikori is still listed as "No Data" on clay. So it is possible they only update on Friday, Saturday, or Sunday. I'm still waiting to find out.

Meanwhile, are you saying that Fed never gets or got Nadal when it was statistically 50% likely?

 

[Boom-Boom]

Lol

10 complots

 

[chjtennis]

There is the possibility that Stan the man has a good clay season no? Would it be enough for Nadal to lose his quarter-final protection?

With the divorce, it seems Stan is mentally not focused on tennis right now.