Levels of poly strings

K1Y

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I don't know where I read it but I think most people agree that beginners should start with syn gut or multi. Why? Because it is more forgiving and powerful and that's what you need for your skill level to produce better shots when you start out. For some (ex. rising juniors) there comes a point that the syn gut and multi starts to break too fast for them. So they switch to nylon/poly, more forgiving than poly mains and one level up the durability ladder. When that get's broken to fast they could switch to poly/nylon, less forgiving but more durability. Eventually they could say that their skill level has evolved in a way that they are ready for full poly, because poly/nylon breaks too fast.

Once we get to poly. How would that ladder look like to you guys? So at the bottom of the ladder would be the most forgiving string (the syn gut of poly's) and on top would be the least forgiving poly, like a thick gauge rpm blast or 4G for example. The common strings that college players and pro's gravitate towards because other things break too fast. If we keep tension out of the equation. Where would you guys start? Thinnest, softest entry level poly? What would those be. After that, would you go a gauge thicker, or stiffer string in the same gauge?

Curious to hear your guys opinion and theorize about this.

For the strings I know, mine would look like this (I would only take a string from the next level if all the strings from a level below do not offer enough durability):

Level 1: Head lynx (1.20), Head sonic pro (1.25)

Level 2: Head lynx (1.25), Solinco Hyper-G soft (1.15), Solinco Hyper-G soft (1.20),

level 3: Signum pro firestorm (1.20), Solinco Hyper-G (1.20), Kirschbaum Super smash orange (1.25)

level 4: Head hawk touch (1.25), TF black code fire (1.24), TF razor code white (1.25), Head lynx tour orange (1.25)

level 5: Hyper g (1.25), Head lynx tour champagne(1.25), TF razor soft carbon (1.20)

level 6: Signum pro poly plasma (1.30)

If you guys have another opinion on this or think differently I am interested to hear it.
 
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You're probably more or less on the right track. I'm not a poly player - I pretty much use syn. gut in my own frames all the time - but I string for several locals including some of the kids on the high school teams I coach; boys' season is in the spring, girls in the fall.

Whenever anybody is looking to switch into a poly setup, the first thing I have them try is a hybrid of Isospeed Baseline 1.20mm usually paired with Gosen OG Sheep Micro 16 crosses. I've tried this hybrid myself once or twice and it was only about as firm for me as a full bed of snug syn. gut. In the years that I've offered this hybrid to stronger kids and a few decent adult players, I've never seen any arm troubles arise for them after trying it. I also generally like to set them up with a hybrid instead of a full bed of poly if they're okay with that, just because the hybrid doesn't seem to "go dead" as drastically as a full bed of poly might.

When the kids get stronger and start chewing through the thinner gauges of poly rather quickly, I'll switch them into the next heavier gauge to give them better durability. So my unofficial rule of thumb is to have anybody use the lightest gauge of poly that gives them decent service life. Some are okay with the hybrid, but some prefer a full bed of poly, especially when the gauges start trending heavier.
 
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I disagree with your "ladder". Basically I disagree with a ladder for level per poly.
There are more "friendly" "forgiving" polys than others, usually soft, but they can be used by any level.

You could argue thinner gauge of a low stiffness string should be the entry level into poly, but that where I would stop the "ladder" and then just call a menu of different types of offerings
 
Start with Lynx 18 is what I also would recommend. Here 3.5 and 4.0 know absolutely nothing about strings and they don't even listen when I try to explain but these experts have exact rules: 1. moving strings = bad stringjob; 2. pain in arm = bad stringjob; 3. white/beige/natural color = stringer tries to cheat with cheap string like on prestrung racquet. Lynx 18 is the best escape for me. It doesn't move, looks good, is very soft and stays arm friendly a long time.
 
I disagree with your "ladder". Basically I disagree with a ladder for level per poly.
There are more "friendly" "forgiving" polys than others, usually soft, but they can be used by any level.

You could argue thinner gauge of a low stiffness string should be the entry level into poly, but that where I would stop the "ladder" and then just call a menu of different types of offerings
I would agree more with this. Any poly can be used by anyone with the right tension and racket setup. It's more about finding the right stiffness level of string to compliment the stiffness level/beam width of the racket, that gives you the feel you desire, and that allows you to play without injury!
 
I think most poly players are using too thick a guage for no reason and then like "oh it's dead in 3 to 4 hours now I have to cut it."

Even 1.20 is probably more than sufficient. Try a 1.15, bet most of us don't break it in less than 10 hours or maybe at all. Obviously not all strings come that thin, but swap your 1.25 for a 1.20 and I'll bet you don't notice.

Thinner guages give you better feel and comfort, I'm a huge proponent.
 
I don't know where I read it but I think most people agree that beginners should start with syn gut or multi. Why? Because it is more forgiving and powerful and that's what you need for your skill level to produce better shots when you start out. For some (ex. rising juniors) there comes a point that the syn gut and multi starts to break too fast for them. So they switch to nylon/poly, more forgiving than poly mains and one level up the durability ladder. When that get's broken to fast they could switch to poly/nylon, less forgiving but more durability. Eventually they could say that their skill level has evolved in a way that they are ready for full poly, because poly/nylon breaks too fast.

Once we get to poly. How would that ladder look like to you guys? So at the bottom of the ladder would be the most forgiving string (the syn gut of poly's) and on top would be the least forgiving poly, like a thick gauge rpm blast or 4G for example. The common strings that college players and pro's gravitate towards because other things break too fast. If we keep tension out of the equation. Where would you guys start? Thinnest, softest entry level poly? What would those be. After that, would you go a gauge thicker, or stiffer string in the same gauge?

Curious to hear your guys opinion and theorize about this.

For the strings I know, mine would look like this (I would only take a string from the next level if all the strings from a level below do not offer enough durability):

Level 1: Head lynx (1.20), Head sonic pro (1.25)

Level 2: Head lynx (1.25), Solinco Hyper-G soft (1.15), Solinco Hyper-G soft (1.20),

level 3: Signum pro firestorm (1.20), Solinco Hyper-G (1.20), Kirschbaum Super smash orange (1.25)

level 4: Head hawk touch (1.25), TF black code fire (1.24), TF razor code white (1.25), Head lynx tour orange (1.25)

level 5: Hyper g (1.25), Head lynx tour champagne(1.25), TF razor soft carbon (1.20)

level 6: Signum pro poly plasma (1.30)

If you guys have another opinion on this or think differently I am interested to hear it.
I almost exclusively go by gauge when introducing polyesters.
So first would be the Solinco 20G, then 19g, then at 18g you end up with a lot of options at that 1.15 range with Solinco, Yonex PTP, Alu Power.
Then I proceed to 17g and also start caring a bit more about the characteristics and the tw lab testing of the polys with like a head lynx being softer, HyperG/TB soft.
After that, a poly is a poly and I go by client and my preference if they don't have one but tell me what type of play characteristics they're looking for, unless you need extreme durability or you're developing injuries from usage. I have gotten to the point that unless they're a high school boy focused only on durability, I don't sell 1.30 or thicker poly to anyone. Most 3.5 even 4.0 men aren't going to run through a 1.25 poly with any regularity.
 
I think most poly players are using too thick a guage for no reason and then like "oh it's dead in 3 to 4 hours now I have to cut it."

Even 1.20 is probably more than sufficient. Try a 1.15, bet most of us don't break it in less than 10 hours or maybe at all. Obviously not all strings come that thin, but swap your 1.25 for a 1.20 and I'll bet you don't notice.

Thinner guages give you better feel and comfort, I'm a huge proponent.
Yep. Also, thick gauges theoretically last longer but if you're not hitting the ball very hard with a thick gauge or with proper technique then it will feel dead even though it's acting exactly how it's supposed to
 
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