***Lightweight, portable stringing machines...a compromise? ***

Discussion in 'Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines' started by PBarre, Sep 15, 2018.

  1. PBarre

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    Hi everyone,

    There are a few machines out there and the question I pose: Is it possible to have a portable lightweight machine (intended for travel, but maybe the goal is to save space in your home) that performs well as a stringer in its own right, without compromise?
     
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  2. esgee48

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    Yes. Stringway, Gamma and Alpha make machines called table tops for the US market. Only issue you could be worried about is the stiffness of the turntable. I do not think it matters as long as the string jobs are repeatable and on spec. Lousy stringing technique makes more of a difference than machine. 3¢

    "Without compromise" is a silly throwaway line. All machines are compromises. You can have heavy tanks like the Baiardo, Sensor; medium like most of the LO; lighter machines. They all do the job. Some are easier to use than others; some are more ergonomic; some have more features.
     
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  3. snoflewis

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    just because it's a tabletop doesn't necessarily mean it's lightweight or space-saving. the smallest/lightest machines i've seen are the 2 point mount drop weights like the Gamma X-2
     
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  4. Tennis_dude101

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    I've had my Pro Stringer(4kg and very small) now for 4 years, its still doing a good job especially after I bought a set of Stringway Clamps.
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  5. PBarre

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    Two questions about the Pro Stringer: can it be calibrated? If so, how can adjustments be made to it? If it can’t be calibrated, is the display and the tension pulled the same after 4 years?


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  6. Tennis_dude101

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    Hi PBarre, There is a good review of the Pro Stringers strengths and weaknesses here: https://bigtimetennis.wordpress.com/2016/07/11/testing-the-pro-stringer-portable-stringing-machine/
    My answers to your questions are:
    • Two questions about the Pro Stringer: can it be calibrated? If so, how can adjustments be made to it? It is possible, there is an adjustment screw under the tension knob, I've never done it however.
    • If it can’t be calibrated, is the display and the tension pulled the same after 4 years? As per the above review, I've found my PS to be consistent with the tensions pulled but the display is off by a couple of pounds at some tensions. I get around this by cross checking the tension pulled with my tension gauge and adjusting for the desired tension if required.
    Cheers,
    TD.
     
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  8. MrSmith

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    There are just a few portable stringing machines on the market. Mistringer, Pro Stinger, Brazilian TMS and Stringway MS140.
    As Esgee48 already said, they all do the job.
    I recommend to you to take a look at Stringway MS140. The machine weight is about 7 kg and it fits in travel size case.
    It has very rigid turntable with truly constant pull. The machine produces very consistent results and real pleasure to use it.
     
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  9. Tennis_dude101

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    There is a member (jasonfoong) on the forum that own both a Pro Stringer and a Stringway MS140. Maybe PM him and he can give you his thoughts on both machines.

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  10. Irvin

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    Yes and if you don’t know for sure who it is PM everyone so you’ll be sure to get him. LOL
     
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  11. John Doe

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    MS140 is a professional level stringing machine. It has better turntable, better tensioner and better clamps than Pro Stringer.
    Currently, MS140 is the best portable machine on the market.
     
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  12. Tenniswarehousecustomer

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    I have a MS140 and have tried my friend's Pro Stringer. The Pro Stringer is a little lighter at 4kg but you can only pull the first several mains at the throat at sharp angles, and requires an electric outlet which could be hard to find depending on where you want to set it up especially if your are outside. MS140 has better and wider racket supports and allows you to pull the first throat strings straight. I also agree the MS140 has a more rigid turntable as well. I used to have the Eagnas Hawk 10 a long time ago but that had many problems and can never recommend that.
     
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  13. Tenniswarehousecustomer

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    Does anyone know of a portable stringer that can string better then the Stringway MS140?
     
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  14. jim e

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    Any time a new poster that never posted before praises a machine makes me wonder of their association with the company
     
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  15. Tennis_dude101

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    I'm only aware of the portable stringers listed above, the SW MS140 looks like a solid machine but it does weigh in at 10kg(with case) compared to 4kg for the Pro Stringer. The MiStringer is the lightest at 3kg which is pretty amazing and it also seems to go a good job according to the reviews.
    All the machines have their strengths and weaknesses and you have to rate them on what you features you feel are most important.
    TD
     
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  16. MAX PLY

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    But Tenniswarehousecustomer has the benefit of being backed up by John Doe and MrSmith (who collectively have 19 posts)--sounds credible to me.:rolleyes: Sadly, I suspect the SW MS140 is pretty darn good from what I have seen on other threads--alas, fictional endorsements dilute rather than enhance its perception.
     
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  17. John Doe

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    I don't have any connection with Stringway and I paid full price for my MS140. If you provide your email address, I can send you my receipt. I have over 16 years stringing experience and it's not my first machine. So far I'm happy with the machine.

    This forum is for sharing information, but sadly, if you recommend the machine, people suspect you in association with the manufacturer. Lol.
     
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  18. MAX PLY

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    ^^^ Cool. Welcome aboard then. How about a full review for the OP on the MS140--there were some threads on here about it's development and a video but would be interested in the stringing experience and how truly portable (and easy to set up it is).
     
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  19. PBarre

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    I too have the MS140L, bought it to travel with my son and I through Canada for tennis. Been on planes (as carry on... security has had no issues with this thing, despite not knowing what it is). It supplements my Alpha drop weight I have been using for the past 7 years, which I leave at home now. Reason for buying it? My experience with Stringway clamps primarily, and that it was a constant pull, not a fan of LO stringers. I can show the case opened and the stringer bolted in, if anyone wants to see it.

    I asked about other travel stringers because people have asked me and my only experience with stringers is this one from SW and my drop weight from Alpha, both of which continue to serve us well.[​IMG][​IMG]



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  20. John Doe

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    Thanks. I'll try to put something together, it may take me a few days.

    Portability is not the best feature of MS140. The case with machine, clamps, tools will be about 10 kg. Nevetheless, one guy managed to bring MS140 on a plane in carry on luggage.

    Stringway posted a good video on YouTube about MS140.
     
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  21. Tenniswarehousecustomer

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    I do not have any connection with any company. I just wanted a small machine that does not take up much space in my house that primarily strings the best with portability coming second. I rarely travel far but I do like to take it outside and set it up where an electric outlet is unavailable and so far the MS140 seems best for me. However there are compromises. I agree with John Doe "portability is not the best feature". Having to find a table to clamp it to is inconvenient. People always on the go may want something smaller and lighter alternatives such as the Pro Stringer or MiStringer. I do not have much experience with other machines then the ones I listed so if anyone has suggestions for something that could fit my needs better please post and I will consider that machine too.
     
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  22. Tennis_dude101

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    A club member dropped in a Babolat Aero 100" to be restrung tonight. Strung it with a hybrid of Solinco Barbwire 17 at 26kg in the mains and Solinco Vanquish 16 at 25kg in the crosses on the Pro Stringer. ;)

    TD

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