Lilli Tagger: A New Hope For The One-Hander?

Certainly has a lot of potential. She hits her one handers rather than slice 90% of the time like Parry. With her height and the fact that she is still young definitely has things going for her. But who knows how she will mature? But definitely a breath of fresh air in the world of mindless backhand bashing a la Kostyuk, Tomlanovic etc.
 
She plays and behaves on court in a very mature way and way older than 17.
I hope our Austrian media gives her some time.
Its good she lives in Itally.
 
Enormous win over defending champion Golubic in the battle of the one-handed backhands in Jiujiang to make the final in her very first WTA main draw. Tagger was down 5-2 in the third set and then down 0-40 serving at 4-5 before pulling an Alcaraz by saving three straight match points (each shown in the highlight package below). I think she legitimately might be my favorite player on tour. The one handed backhand should hang in the Louvre, but she has a really good whippy forehand that does a lot of damage, her serve is coming around, and she's even showing some skills at the net. And she has a great attitude/demeanor on the court to go along with the mental strength she showed today.

She's up to #154 in the live rankings and would get to #135 if she can take down Blinkova in the final, which will be a tall order, but doable IMO.
 
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Enormous win over defending champion Golubic in the battle of the one-handed backhands in Jiujiang to make the final in her very first WTA main draw. Tagger was down 5-2 in the third set and then down 0-40 serving at 4-5 before pulling an Alcaraz by saving three straight match points (each shown in the highlight package below). I think she legitimately might be my favorite player on tour. The one handed backhand should hang in the Louvre, but she has a really good whippy forehand that does a lot of damage, her serve is coming around, and she's even showing some skills at the net. And she has a great attitude/demeanor on the court to go along with the mental strength she showed today.

She's up to #154 in the live rankings and would get to #135 if she can take down Blinkova in the final, which will be a tall order, but doable IMO.
Wow. Down 2-5 and later down 4-5, 0-40, three match points against, and pulls it out against the much more experienced player. I hadn't heard of her before this tourney. She seems to have a world of potential.
 
Her serve can get much better and her physicality/defense can also improve. Exciting times.
Yeah, it's all there in the first point of the highlights of the match. She smacks a pretty good serve, plays some solid defense, moves reasonably well, and finishes the point with a tough overhead. As you note, all the ingredients are there, and you can also see how she can beef up the serve a bit, tighten up her defense, and move more fluidly. A solid offseason in the weight room should help a lot.
 
Five years ago I heard about a special talent from Eastern Tyrol, less than an hour's drive from Sinner's hometown. Needless to say that she is outperforming my high expectations. She might lose tomorrow, but here game is already very impressive and she is improving so fast. Her attacking spirit is so uplifting!

So much upside with that talent, build and head. Thankfully Vittur was there in time before Mister M got her for his academy. Love the collaboration with Schiavone.
 
Five years ago I heard about a special talent from Eastern Tyrol, less than an hour's drive from Sinner's hometown. Needless to say that she is outperforming my high expectations. She might lose tomorrow, but here game is already very impressive and she is improving so fast. Her attacking spirit is so uplifting!

So much upside with that talent, build and head. Thankfully Vittur was there in time before Mister M got her for his academy. Love the collaboration with Schiavone.

She already has a champion's demeanor and mentality. I do think there's gonna be some limited upside with a one-handed back hand at the highest levels, but it's not going to be as detrimental as it would be perhaps the men's game. If someone can develop her serve, I think it's likely that she wins a slam probably more than one.
 
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She already has a champion's demeanor and mentality. I do think there's gonna be some limited upside with a one-handed back hand at the highest levels, but it's not going to be as detrimental as it would be perhaps the men's game.

She has the height and wingspan to mitigate some of weakness of the oney, apart from those innate qualities you can protect it mostly with a great slice and quick feet. One the plus side the one-hander helps the attacking game and is able to generate superb spin and acute angles.

If someone can develop her serve, I think it's likely that she wins a slam probably more than one.


Excellent point. I was wondering for some time how her team is handling that key aspect of the modern game. Italian tennis has long been known for its variety and quite a lot of one-handers but certainly not the serve. Schiavone was a pretty good example of that.

Lilli could be and arguably should become one of the best servers on the tour. Thankfully, Alex Vittur has the experience of how his first charge became the dominant serve plus forehand player after a slow start...

P.S.: Her hands were quite heavy at times and a deeper position exposed her occasionally to some fine drop shots by the Swiss. We will increasingly see how her strokes deal with big flat pace.
 
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Not the strongest performance but the potential is there. She needs to gain some muscles on her way from a girl to a woman, step into the court and build up some pressure.

I am positiv she has a nice career ahead , but not sure about top 5.

Tbh the level of a WTA 250 was disappointing.
 
This player makes me want to watch more tennis. Her game is so pleasing to the eye. No ear piercing shrieking, moves like a gazelle, and that backhand…oh my!

A bit more muscle and I think she will wreak havoc on the women’s tour. Please happen.
 
Not the strongest performance but the potential is there. She needs to gain some muscles on her way from a girl to a woman, step into the court and build up some pressure.

I am positiv she has a nice career ahead , but not sure about top 5.

This player makes me want to watch more tennis. Her game is so pleasing to the eye. No ear piercing shrieking, moves like a gazelle, and that backhand…oh my!

A bit more muscle and I think she will wreak havoc on the women’s tour. Please happen.

Tall players tend to peak athletically later and it seems that they avoid to heavy loads. Frankly I hope that she does not build up too much too quickly.

Today her first serve really let her down and the motion concerns me a bit, wish it was a more fluid. Her return game wasn’t that great either, partly due to the strong follow ups from Blinkova.

We need more data but top 5 in five years seems very likely at this point.
 
Tagger not only has a one handed backhand but also a straight arm forehand. The only other active female tennis player that I know of that has a straight arm forehand is Leylah Fernandez.

She's unique and stands out. I'm looking forward to watching more of her matches.
 
Tagger not only has a one handed backhand but also a straight arm forehand. The only other active female tennis player that I know of that has a straight arm forehand is Leylah Fernandez.

She's unique and stands out. I'm looking forward to watching more of her matches.
Shes 17 and still fighting in the trenches, andreeva at the same age wins 2 master 1000
 
I think her success will be directly reflected by her movement. If she can become a good mover, she will be a top player.
 
She plays a qualies match in Auckland today vs. Pigossi. She ended last season on a big upswing. It will be interesting to see how much she’s added to her game and to her physical conditioning.
 
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She plays a qualies match in Auckland today vs. Pigossi. She ended last season on a big upswing. It will be interesting to see how much she’s added to her game and to her physical conditioning.

And she won it against the world number 201 in three sets: 4-6 6-4 6-1 in 2:34. Could not watch it, will likely do so later. 54% total points won is a lot for such a long match, for both HC is not their best surface.

Will play the second round against the Nr. 103 Yuliia Starodubtseva.
 
And she won it against the world number 201 in three sets: 4-6 6-4 6-1 in 2:34. Could not watch it, will likely do so later. 54% total points won is a lot for such a long match, for both HC is not their best surface.

Will play the second round against the Nr. 103 Yuliia Starodubtseva.
In many ways, it was a great match for her even though she didn’t play all that well, because for many young players, matches in which you don’t play well often turn out to be easy losses. Obviously easy wins against lower ranked competiton is still the strongest correlative factor for young rising players, but I think this was good for her.

She started out nervous and Pigossi took an early 3-0 lead. Tagger fought back and evened things in the set before losing it. Then she got an early lead in the second, lost it, then won the set and then seemed physically very strong in the third and controlled the match from the back of the court.
 
Tagger fought back and evened things in the set before losing it. Then she got an early lead in the second, lost it, then won the set and then seemed physically very strong in the third and controlled the match from the back of the court.

A good summary! I expect her to have a better European clay swing than early hardcourt success, suits her current baseline game better. Good to see her weight of shot.
 
As expected, got ripped apart in her last match, but still a good first match to build her confidence going forward.

Once the clay season starts, I expect her to make a jump in the rankings maybe in the top 75 with some luck.
 
Tagger doing some reverse-Ofner, wins the second set tiebreak down from 0-5 and then dominates the third. Another long battle, the quick surface isn't her doing a lot of favor so far. She can get rushed while her serve can't yet make much of a difference...
 
Unfortunately she lost in 3rd round AO Qualies.
Would love to see her in the main draw, but its only a matter of time.

Highlights from her Q3 exit..

As @ghostofMecir and I have written before, at this stage of her career she is more at home on the slower surfaces. Lilli grew up mostly on clay and her strokes take more time and room, while her serve potential is still untapped.

Quick surfaces play into the hands of opponents like Tararudee with more compact strokes and flatter balls. With greater strength and technical progress I think Lilli will be less liable to get rushed and her serve will develop into a potent force.

Hope she gets a couple on good runs on the bouncier stuff.
 
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Highlights from her Q3 exit..

As @ghostofMecir and I have written before, at this stage of her career she is more at home on the slower surfaces. Lilli grew up mostly on clay and her strokes take more time and room, while her serve potential is still untapped.

Quick surfaces play into the hands of opponents like Tararudee with more compact strokes and flatter balls. With greater strength and technical progress I think Lilli will be less liable to get rushed and her serve will develop in a potent force.

Hope she gets a couple on good runs on the bouncier stuff.
I’m really excited to see her on clay.

Honestly, the mechanics of her current game and physical reality made her wins quite unlikely, wins in which she displayed incredible mental toughness. You don’t see 17 year olds winning via mental toughness all that often, which bodes well for the future.
 
The thing is, I feel like she could have won some rounds in Hobart, but i guess you have to play the majors for the feeling and memories.
 
This is a thing of beauty!

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Apart from Wawrinka, none of Mug-Handers on the ATP are capable of hitting a down-the-line winner with this much authority and panache. Maybe Shapo....once every three years.

She still needs time. Still very raw. She just has to get into the Top 100 this year, so she can consistently play the best players all the time.

She will be a Top 10 player. And perhaps more than that.
 
Apart from Wawrinka, none of Mug-Handers on the ATP are capable of hitting a down-the-line winner with this much authority and panache. Maybe Shapo....once every three years.

She still needs time. Still very raw. She just has to get into the Top 100 this year, so she can consistently play the best players all the time.

She will be a Top 10 player. And perhaps more than that.
Not dissimilar to Henin's one-hander, though Lilli is obviously much taller. Go, Lilli!
 
Not dissimilar to Henin's one-hander, though Lilli is obviously much taller. Go, Lilli!
For me, what's more similar to Henin is the attitude.

I believe if Tsitsipas could hit a down-the-line winner half as well, or half as consistently, or half as often as Henin, he'd have a grand slam. But no. Doesn't even try to go for that shot. The Mug-Handers( mediocre one handers) never trust themselves with this KEY shot.

You need a lot of courage to attack from that side as a OHBH-er. But all the great one handers I've seen have that quality. Henin was absolutely fearless in this regard. So was Federer. As is Wawrinka. And young Lilli, from what Iittle I've seen, also has this attitude.
 
For me, what's more similar to Henin is the attitude.

I believe if Tsitsipas could hit a down-the-line winner half as well, or half as consistently, or half as often as Henin, he'd have a grand slam. But no. Doesn't even try to go for that shot. The Mug-Handers( mediocre one handers) never trust themselves with this KEY shot.

You need a lot of courage to attack from that side as a OHBH-er. But all the great one handers I've seen have that quality. Henin was absolutely fearless in this regard. So was Federer. As is Wawrinka. And young Lilli, from what Iittle I've seen, also has this attitude.
I always liked the way Fred would hit the one-hander slightly inside out, and under big pressure, too. Chutzpah..
 
Apart from Wawrinka, none of Mug-Handers on the ATP are capable of hitting a down-the-line winner with this much authority and panache. Maybe Shapo....once every three years.

She still needs time. Still very raw. She just has to get into the Top 100 this year, so she can consistently play the best players all the time.

She will be a Top 10 player. And perhaps more than that.
One handers are such a giant handicap, especially in the women's game that it'll probably cause a pretty hard ceiling.
 
One handers are such a giant handicap, especially in the women's game that it'll probably cause a pretty hard ceiling.
That's a possibility, for sure. A One hander is definitely a big handicap, unless you develop a great one. Why do you think it is a bigger handicap in the women's game? the flatter hitting probably makes it a little easier to overcome, or so I assume.

One thing in her favour is that she is a tall girl, with a massive wingspan. Should help her counter the high bouncing balls to her BH. Return of serve will still be tricky, but her size and wingspan probably helps there, and probably also helps generate some easy power.
 
That's a possibility, for sure. A One hander is definitely a big handicap, unless you develop a great one. Why do you think it is a bigger handicap in the women's game? the flatter hitting probably makes it a little easier to overcome, or so I assume.

One thing in her favour is that she is a tall girl, with a massive wingspan. Should help her counter the high bouncing balls to her BH. Return of serve will still be tricky, but her size and wingspan probably helps there, and probably also helps generate some easy power.
Because women's tennis I think is more about getting in the first strike and rushing the opponent and a OHBH basically has to give up some court positioning to buy time for a OHBH. I also do not think at all that height and wingspan are great for a OHBH, it just makes it clumsy and difficult to time. It's why Karlovic regretted learning a OHBH so much. If anything, I think it makes more sense for shorter players who are also great movers to add weight of shot and RPM to the backhand on a player that would otherwise be likely to be underpowered on that wing. That is totally the opposite of the archetypical WTA player that dominates off clay. It's all flat first strike power.
 
What stands out to me, after watching some of her matches in the past 6 months, she is a slow starter :p
 
Because women's tennis I think is more about getting in the first strike and rushing the opponent and a OHBH basically has to give up some court positioning to buy time for a OHBH. I also do not think at all that height and wingspan are great for a OHBH, it just makes it clumsy and difficult to time. It's why Karlovic regretted learning a OHBH so much. If anything, I think it makes more sense for shorter players who are also great movers to add weight of shot and RPM to the backhand on a player that would otherwise be likely to be underpowered on that wing. That is totally the opposite of the archetypical WTA player that dominates off clay. It's all flat first strike power.
Interesting thoughts. Thanks.
 
9 straight wins, up to 114 in the world. That beating she took against Tararudee in AO qualifying doesn’t look as bad given Tararudee’s upward ascent as well. When you look at mp layers who won mulitple slams and or reached #1, they had dominant stretches like these when younger, even if against lesser competiton. Players who put stretches like this together at this age almost always make a lot of noise on tour.
  • 18 of 19 sets won in this stretch
  • Only 7 of these sets saw her opponent win 4+ games in the set
All of this on hard courts.
 
One handers are such a giant handicap, especially in the women's game that it'll probably cause a pretty hard ceiling.
One-handers are massive handicaps on both tours, especially on return. Aside from Federer, there have been basically zero one-handers on the men’s tour over the past 25 years who have return games that make them consistent threats on tour. There aren’t any one-handed who appear anywhere near the top in RPW% or TPW%. There’s been very few weeks spent in the top 3 by one-handers in the past 25 years and it’s not an accident. Federer himself shouldn’t have won as much as he did playing with an outdated stroke and severe racket disadvantage, but he had once in a lifetime racket talent as well as once in a life time serve toss/placement.

The one hander for Lilli won’t be as much of disadvantage on clay for her, but overall, to get past that hard cap ceiling, she has to leverage her height into a top tier serve, which will ameliorate for the inherent vulnerability of the one-handed BH.
 
Too bad about the loss in the final. Getting zero breaks and only two break points against such an average server is something to work on.
Still, one good result away from the top 100.
 
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