Lilli Tagger racquet
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LeftyMagic
Semi-Pro
what is the actual difference btwn that and the retail mp?
is it the weight/balance/sw is much more customized?
thanks
McEncock
Professional
TGT layups are baked without commercial weights
It's easier that way to reach the player's prefered specs
So the classic Blade + 4g setup?... and she switched to blade already (the green grommet thingies are a give-away)
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Here we go again. Posting nonsense for the post count. I.e. trolling.
Spielgame
Hall of Fame
All the new generation of Head racquets feel so muted and I feel disconnected from the ball. Prestige Classic 2.0 has the best feel.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
You obviously tested them all..
Because the Prestige line, Gravity line are all but muted and none of them have the TGK237.3 layup
I can tell it's not a blade but the steam 100.
McEncock
Professional
What do you mean?
FlatShot_V
Professional
She's using a blacked out frame with golden strings in Nanchang. Head stencil and bag though
Honza
Professional
It looks awesome as it is. Black control frame with yellow strings.
Was using a Head Boom MP pro-stock ala @dr325i, but since September looks to be using a Wilson Steam 100 – beam profile checks out, as does the 16x20 with two more open-spaced bottom crosses and main/cross intersections at 10 & 2 and 8 & 4. Here's a shot from yesterday in Jiujiang (click to enlarge):
And for string, if I had to guess, it looks to be a gut/4G hybrid.
And for string, if I had to guess, it looks to be a gut/4G hybrid.
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dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Also looks like she has those green W grommets at 10 and 2...Was using a Head Boom MP pro-stock ala @dr325i, but since September looks to be using a Wilson Steam 100 – beam profile checks out, as does the 16x20 with two more open-spaced bottom crosses and main/cross intersections at 10 & 2 and 8 & 4. Here's a shot from yesterday in Jiujiang (click to enlarge):
And for string, if I had to guess, it looks to be a gut/4G hybrid.
Yeah, I believe those are "paint job grommets", for any mold that will ultimately get the Blade treatment. I would think she'd end up with either that or an Ultra paint job, if she does jump ship.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
I think we are going to see a lot of interesting black outs/grommets/string patterns/stencils/buttcaps combos between now and AO26... Will be an interesting transition to the 2026 season.
Perfect timing to visit the most interesting place on Earth
LeftyMagic
Semi-Pro
so thats a 100sq inch one hander? 16x20?
am1899
Legend
Yup, Steam 100, 16x20.
LeftyMagic
Semi-Pro
as a middle aged onehander i need to not be afraid of 100 inch if these pros are using it…old school mentality is tough to shake
am1899
Legend
Same - middle aged one hander myself. I’ve gone back and forth with head sizes over the years. Settled on the 22 EZ 98 now. But there’s some 100’s out there that work and I can hit a big ball with.
Gasquet used a 100 sq inch if it helps you.
am1899
Legend
HitMoreBHs
Professional
At 23-25-21, the TK181 was a fat-boi, too. No need to obsess over thin-beamed, small headed sticks just because one favours a SHBH.
jackcrawford
Professional
Gasquet's was extended .5 inch, as was Ljubicic's, one of Ivan's frames recently on auction site, pro stock PD+ with 69 flex. Mark Vines, top senior player, one-hander with 28 inch Hammer frame.
movdqa
Talk Tennis Guru
I watched a bit of a WTA match and noticed a OHBH and so I had to watch more. I noticed the Head frame as well.
Someone commented on my OHBH last week, something like we need a few people to keep it going. I think that Musetti is the current top player with one. Tsitsipas was in the top ten for a while but is no longer there.
Anyone have the swingweight/static/lead placement on her TGT?
Someone commented on my OHBH last week, something like we need a few people to keep it going. I think that Musetti is the current top player with one. Tsitsipas was in the top ten for a while but is no longer there.
Anyone have the swingweight/static/lead placement on her TGT?
Re-read the thread. Since September, she has since moved from the Head Boom MP pro stock to what is very likely a Wilson Steam 100 (currently blacked out), per my post above.
Not so sure about that. She already came from a Boom MP pro stock, which is 100", and that Wilson is a 16x20, which, unless they're offering a custom drill pattern in a slightly smaller-headed mold (it happens, but IMHO she isn't a big-enough deal yet for them to offer that), then it's very likely the Steam 100, which would be a somewhat natural step into the Wilson portfolio.
and Schiavone used an AeroPro Drive with her one hander - plenty of tweener playing one handers through time
And strings looks like 4G which is very popular among wilson sponsored players
Indeed. In some aspects, it looks like a 4G hybrid, perhaps gut mains / 4G crosses (ala Dimitrov), and in other light angles, it looks like full-bed 4G. I can't quite tell yet, but I'm sure we'll learn soon enough.
@Tim Buktu - I don't blame her one bit. That's most likely the Steam 100 (which Wilson is supposedly going to release in the Blade v10 refresh as the Blade Pro 100 — similar to how they rebooted the Steam 99 as the Ultra Pro 99).
A couple months ago I had a chance to try a buddy's pro stock Steam 100 (with a Blade v9 paint job), and it was surprisingly good. I have a 1HBH and I was astonished at my consistency off that wing. Didn't miss a ball for like 10 minutes. A very consistent output from the racquet. Especially compared to Lilli's outgoing frame, the Boom MP, who's upper string bed is less precise / more erratic. I bet she appreciates that difference, for sure. Great stick, and I look forward to getting one of my own, presuming Wilson does release it as the Blade Pro 100.
A couple months ago I had a chance to try a buddy's pro stock Steam 100 (with a Blade v9 paint job), and it was surprisingly good. I have a 1HBH and I was astonished at my consistency off that wing. Didn't miss a ball for like 10 minutes. A very consistent output from the racquet. Especially compared to Lilli's outgoing frame, the Boom MP, who's upper string bed is less precise / more erratic. I bet she appreciates that difference, for sure. Great stick, and I look forward to getting one of my own, presuming Wilson does release it as the Blade Pro 100.
movdqa
Talk Tennis Guru
You found good control on the OHBH with a 100? Are you talking precision control or control with a lot of topspin? I'm still using a Prestige (95 sq inches). The way she was hitting and the sound was a lot different from a Pure Drive or APD which has a more brushy sound. Do you think that there's lead on the frame?
Absolutely. Both types of control: outright precision and topspin-enhanced. Just because a frame is a 100", doesn't mean those two can't exist in enough abundance for the 1HBH. I'm sure Richard Gasquet would agree.
As for Tagger's racquet itself, not sure if there's lead on the frame. Considering she was coming from a Boom MP, maybe with lead under the bumper (but not sure), if there is any lead, I doubt it's that much.
movdqa
Talk Tennis Guru
I had a tough time transitioning from a 90 to a 95 back around 2005 and eventually got the hang of it. I tested the RF97 around 2017 and it was great for spin but not the precision shots I get with the Prestige. That was just a playtest - longer term use would probably have fixed that. I've tried 100s in the past and they never gelled for me on precision backhands.
Gasquet is more of a spin player than a flat player and the larger size definitely works for him.
Gasquet is more of a spin player than a flat player and the larger size definitely works for him.
lim
Hall of Fame
By precise if you mean hitting more through the ball than brushing up on it, yes in my experience you can still play like that with a 100 however if you developed your OHBH with a 90-95 frame, it won't have that "pinpoint" precise feel where you feel like you can hit full power without hitting the back fence
movdqa
Talk Tennis Guru
I played with a 65 sq inch racquets from the 1970s through the 1990s. I have hit with 100s and it's great on the forehand but it left me with doubts on how much I could hit out on the backhand. My racquets are 15 years old now and I really hate looking for new racquets and strings but they won't last forever.
gmedeiros321
New User
She has already switched to a Gravity.
Lukhas
Legend
To be fair and given the specs in your signature, your racquet has more in common with Gasquet's than his has in common with Tagger... Dude was hitting with a sledgehammer. I don't really think that with that kind of heft, the headsize difference matters a whole lot. In terms of feel yes it does (and I understand since I'm sensitive to it) ; in terms of what it does to the ball... just swats it away as if it weren't there. The LM Instinct Tour XL also was 18x19, which closes the launch angle somewhat.
That's interesting, I wonder which model/mold/string pattern combination.
jmacdaununder2
Legend
That was so refreshing to watch, thanks for posting!
(It’s far too late in the day now, but tennis would probably have remained so much more aesthetically pleasing to watch if they’d legislated equipment along the lines of baseball & cricket; say no poly, 90/95” max headsize, possibly even ohbh for the men at least, faster balls etc. etc. Thank goodness we have Alcaraz to break up the monotony - along with everything else, the guy can really volley.)
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