List of rackets that can be capped/ capping guide

So I didnt see the iPrestige mp on the list, and since I have one on the way(thnx edman!) I was wondering:

1. whats the diff in weight between the original iPrest. CAPS and the full CAPS?



tia
 
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Elite Pro Grommets

I saw in an earlier post that the Prestige Mid grommets should fit the Elite Pro (I have the model that is green metal flake - not the widebody). I did a search and found Prestige Mid grommets for sale, but looking at the picture it doesn't look like the numbers a placement match up. Has anybody out there tried it? I wasn't sure if maybe I was looking at a stock picture, not actually a picture of the Prestige Mid grommets. It isn't a huge deal, but I've recently started playing again and I thought it would be neat to restring this racket from my younger days.
 
My $20 dollar find today....

Bought this today and did a little bit of work on it. here is the before....

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i wonder if the new speed pro cap grommets would fit the microgel or youtek prestige pros?
the new speed line seems to have retained its circular head shape, even though it looks marginally more oval so maybe not.
the white on the youtek red/black i think would look ugly anyways. but i could see them working on the microgels
 
I just CAPped my Microgel Radical and it really wasn't that difficult. I'll get pictures up later

First, I would like to note that the Radical and Prestige drill patterns have different tie-offs. I'm not sure if anyone has noted this in another post. Both starting cross tie-offs are the same though
Prestige:
Mains at 7T
Crosses at 12T
Radical:
Mains at 8T
Crosses at 7T
This isn't too big of a problem, one just has to tie-off as if it were a Prestige

What I used:
-Hairdryer
-Awl
-Microgel Prestige CAPs
-Abit of lotion

What I did:
This wasn't the first time I've tried this. I had previous attempted to CAP my Flexpoint Radical, unsuccessfully since I couldn't get the CAPs to fit all the way up to the top. I ended up cutting the CAPs into sections which looked horrid but allowed the CAPs to properly

From that, I figured the reason why it wouldn't go in properly is because the Radical's head is slightly larger than the Prestige (or just wider). This makes it harder to CAP a Radical than a Prestige because the CAP would be abit too small for the Radical.

So this time around, I used the hairdryer to heat up the CAPs and I stretched them out with my hands while they were hot. This made the CAP strips a bit longer than previous (a few milimeters). I also used abit of lotion as grease on the tie-off holes to help them fit in easier.

First, I installed the CAPs in the Flexpoint Radical (which previously had the segmented CAPs). I got them in no more than a minute; super easy.

Then, I took them out and tried putting them into the Microgel. This was abit more challenging but I was able to do it in 20 minutes or so. The Microgel's head seems to be slighly different from the Flexpoint so the CAPs did not fit as nicely. This would be easily fixed if I had stretched out the CAP alittle bit more.

Parts of the CAP to work on stretching:
-Between 4H and 5H, 6H, and 9H
-10T and 12T
-Maybe abit at the very top (1H)
Those areas I can still see abit of "tension" in the plastic

The most difficult part though is that the 12T tie-off is present on the FXP but not the MG so you have to fit the 12T grommet through a hole that is smaller. I wasn't able to fit those in completely but enough to let no string touch the frame. You don't want to use to much force until you get the all edges of the grommet through the hole because you don't want to bend the grommet (especially if only one lip of the grommet is bent, making it larger and impossible to fit in)

Hope this helps
 
Has anyone taken advantage of the TW CAPing service?

I really get jealous when I see those CAPed radicals.... I CAPed my old LMRad+ with unsatisfactory results.

Besides being a complete PITA... certain grommets were flush with the beam... I might try again someday, using various methods that I have read in this thread.


Maybe TW can enlighten us as to what method they use?
 
klementine79 said:
Has anyone taken advantage of the TW CAPing service?

I really get jealous when I see those CAPed radicals.... I CAPed my old LMRad+ with unsatisfactory results.

Besides being a complete PITA... certain grommets were flush with the beam... I might try again someday, using various methods that I have read in this thread.


Maybe TW can enlighten us as to what method they use?
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The LM Radical is one of my favorite frames with CAP grommets, a leather grip and about 8-10g of extra weight inside the butt cap. It's nearly the perfect frame, IMO.


The trick to CAPping the LM Radical is this:

► Once obtaining the grommets, observe the nibs. You'll notice that 4 or so are larger to accommodate the tie off/starting locations on the Prestige (which differ from the Radical)

► Match those four nibs to your Radical frame holes. You'll notice the frame holes of the Radical are too small to accommodate the enlarged grommets nibs of the Prestige grommets

► Use a Dremel to very slightly enlarge those 4 Radical frame holes

► The grommets should then snap right into place

I messed up 2-3 LM Radical CAP jobs until I really analyzed what was happening. Some people mash them into place but the grommet strip then bulges at certain locations and it looks like crap, IMO.


I believe this is the bit I use to slightly enlarge the 4 frame holes:

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bigd34 said:
I saw in an earlier post that the Prestige Mid grommets should fit the Elite Pro (I have the model that is green metal flake - not the widebody). I did a search and found Prestige Mid grommets for sale, but looking at the picture it doesn't look like the numbers a placement match up. Has anybody out there tried it? I wasn't sure if maybe I was looking at a stock picture, not actually a picture of the Prestige Mid grommets. It isn't a huge deal, but I've recently started playing again and I thought it would be neat to restring this racket from my younger days.
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Please check the link for more info:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=308567
 
klementine79 said:
Has anyone taken advantage of the TW CAPing service?

I really get jealous when I see those CAPed radicals.... I CAPed my old LMRad+ with unsatisfactory results.

Besides being a complete PITA... certain grommets were flush with the beam... I might try again someday, using various methods that I have read in this thread.


Maybe TW can enlighten us as to what method they use?
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i actually ordered a microgel radical mp about a month ago and planned on having TW CAP it for me. i even emailed them beforehand to verify that they would do this. got a reply which said, yes we can absolutely do that, that it would actually be a good way to add weight to the hoop.
when i called in my order, the woman who took my order said she didn't think they could CAP it for me. she went to talk to her supervisor and he relayed to me the CAPS wouldn't fit and would invalidate my warranty and so they basically refused to CAP my radical. kind of a bummer.
 
Looking for some advice here.

I have a set of MG Prestige MP CAP grommets, and I am interested in installing them on my MG Radical MP. However, my MP is customized (see sig), and I very much like the way it plays right now. Based on the specs in my sig, how much lead should i remove from it in order to maintain the same specs? In other words, how heavy are the CAPs and how much sw points do they add, etc.

Thanks ahead of time!
 
Cup8489 said:
Looking for some advice here.

I have a set of MG Prestige MP CAP grommets, and I am interested in installing them on my MG Radical MP. However, my MP is customized (see sig), and I very much like the way it plays right now. Based on the specs in my sig, how much lead should i remove from it in order to maintain the same specs? In other words, how heavy are the CAPs and how much sw points do they add, etc.

Thanks ahead of time!
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i'm not positive but i think someone in another thread said CAPS add about 12-15 SW points. but your sig says you have all your lead at 12, which means, regardless of whether you match SW, balance, and static weight, it's still going to play very differently than your current set up because of the weight distribution around the hoop. so if you like your set up now, and it seems like you do, then just stick with what works
 
eleventeenth street said:
i'm not positive but i think someone in another thread said CAPS add about 12-15 SW points. but your sig says you have all your lead at 12, which means, regardless of whether you match SW, balance, and static weight, it's still going to play very differently than your current set up because of the weight distribution around the hoop. so if you like your set up now, and it seems like you do, then just stick with what works
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well I'm only considering it as a plan to keep the edges of the hoop from being scraped up.. it would be nice to keep the frame in as good of condition as possible.

If i knew how much the CAPs weigh, I could figure out the rest from just that.. I only don't have a letter scale to help me out with this. Thank you for your input though, It does help me.. it basically means that to maintain the SW i'd only need about 3 grams at 12 instead of the 9, I think.
 
Cup8489 said:
However, my MP is customized (see sig), and I very much like the way it plays right now.
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Caps change the way the racquet feels dramaticly. Even if you get the exact weight and SW convertion from your current set up it will play different. If you have the CAPS just save the lead tape and make sure you dont rip the current grommets so that if you are unpleased you can return it to the current set up. Good luck
 
Hi there
So,can I install in my HEAD MICROGEL RADICAL MP 98sq/inch 18 x 20 the MICROGEL PRESTIGE MP grommets ?
Is there any particular thing the stringer has to pay attention to in order to install them properly ?
Thanks
 
intructions for capping

dantespark33 said:
I think it's about time to make a definitive list of rackets that can use the Head Prestige CAP grommets, because there are tons of threads that tell what can be capped but no thread that has a list of all the rackets that can use the grommets. (i'll get some pics later)

so to start off what are cap grommets?

They are the bumper guard used in the Head Prestige Line of rackets
they aid in full racket head protection, they do add a little bit more weight to the racket head as opposed to regular grommets.

How do you install cap grommets?

Materials:
CAP grommets
Awl
Heat gun/blow dryer/ hot water (optional)
*you can use a heat gun/blow dryer or hot water to somewhat ease the process by making the grommets more soft and flexible

Here are 2 ways to install caps:

Capping version 1. To install CAPs start at the shoulder. 5T and 6T grommets are the longest and will need to be inserted FIRST. CAPs will finish easily at the 12 o'clock. I also recommend that you use Scotch tape to tape down the CAPs to the frame as you move upward. This method will keep the CAPs from popping back out as you seat more and more grommets into the holes.
*kudos to psp2 for this

Capping version 2. So heat up a cap strip (optional) and start from the top (12 o clock position) and push the grommets through the grommet holes, use the awl to help push them into place, just do this until you get all of the grommets in the holes, if you need to use some kind of easy to remove tape at the top after you get the first grommets in so that they stay in place better



Which rackets can be capped?

well there are few rackets that can use the prestige cap grommets, they are mainly in the Head radical series

this is the list of Midplus rackets that can use the midplus prestige grommets, you can use either the liquidmetal, microgel, i.prestige, or flexpoint prestige MP grommets, i find that the i.prestige grommets are the hardest to install, the other ones are pretty simple though

Head Microgel Radical MP
Head Liquidmetal Radical MP
Head flexpoint Radical MP (uses the head Flexpoint Prestige MP grommets)
Head Intelligence i.Radical MP
Head titanium ti.Radical MP
Head Radical tour/trisys 260/bumblebee MP
Head twintube radical tour MP
Head Pro tour 260/630
Head Ti.Pro tour
Head Tour Extralong
Head ti.fire pro edition

List of mid rackets that can use prestige mid grommets
Head Graphite professional
Spalding atp tour stock 200
Head Elite Pro
Head Elektra Pro
Head Tour 600
Head Club Pro
Head Magnum Pro
Head Comp Pro
Head Team Pro
Head tour 600

Other: (use Head Prestige Team series Grommets)
Head Trisys 270
Head Ti.classic
Head Pro lite tour

Non head:
the Volkl Tour 10 Generation II can be capped with little modification
instructions and pictures of how to cap the racket are located in the link before
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=189204

FOR ANYONE INTERESTED:
you can use the new teflon grommets from the youtek radical series and stick them in the older versions of the radicals

there are probably other rackets that i don't know of so please inform if i missed something
NOTE: The T-fight cannot be capped without adjustment to the caps, thank you to Gimmick experimenting for us
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Hello
I have a MICROGEL RADICAL MP and a set of grommets from the MICROGEL PRESTIGE MP.As pero your list I assume thay can be installed.
Would you be so kind to advise what particular instructions the stringer has to follow in order to do so ?
Can you please email at dmvaro@yahoo.es or reply to me in the forum ?
Looking forward to hearing from you
Thanks a lot
 
dmvaro said:
Hello
I have a MICROGEL RADICAL MP and a set of grommets from the MICROGEL PRESTIGE MP.As pero your list I assume thay can be installed.
Would you be so kind to advise what particular instructions the stringer has to follow in order to do so ?
Can you please email at dmvaro@yahoo.es or reply to me in the forum ?
Looking forward to hearing from you
Thanks a lot
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The Directions are in that post. I have found that option two works better. Start at the top of the frame, and work your way downwards on both sides...
 
Ok... so a guy CAP'd a T-fight...

My question is can the Babolat Pure Storm Ltd. be CAP'd???

Using Prestige MP CAPs (the Prestige MP is really 95sq.in.)... I realize that the beams are different 1mm on each side ( 19mm as opposed to 21mm fro the Prestige ).. but are the drill patterns the same?

Has anyone tried?

This intrigues me... the only real complaint about the PureStormLtd. is the lack of heft in the hoop... this would solve it.
 
klementine79 said:
Ok... so a guy CAP'd a T-fight...

My question is can the Babolat Pure Storm Ltd. be CAP'd???

Using Prestige MP CAPs (the Prestige MP is really 95sq.in.)... I realize that the beams are different 1mm on each side ( 19mm as opposed to 21mm fro the Prestige ).. but are the drill patterns the same?

Has anyone tried?

This intrigues me... the only real complaint about the PureStormLtd. is the lack of heft in the hoop... this would solve it.
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I think that the string patterns would be different. But I don't know for sure. Oh, and please post pictures of the T-Fight if possible...
 
klementine79 said:
Ok... so a guy CAP'd a T-fight...

My question is can the Babolat Pure Storm Ltd. be CAP'd???

Using Prestige MP CAPs (the Prestige MP is really 95sq.in.)... I realize that the beams are different 1mm on each side ( 19mm as opposed to 21mm fro the Prestige ).. but are the drill patterns the same?

Has anyone tried?

This intrigues me... the only real complaint about the PureStormLtd. is the lack of heft in the hoop... this would solve it.
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I am intriqued about capping a psl, I would love to try it....

What I have found best with the PSL is the following...
Strip the leather
Add some silicone to the handle
Install synthetic grip, I like Prince resi-pro
Add 4 inches of 1/4 lead tape in the throat, I just put the strip in the middle of the frame
Installed 4 inches of lead (started just above the second white stripe on the hoop.) @ 3 & 9

mine weighs 12.25 ounces, have no idea about the awing weight, balance ect, I just know this is MY #1 setup on the psl
 
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This may sound stupid but are there different playability between different CAPS such as Microgel and Liquidmetal? There seems to be some demand for the old PC600 CAPs, is it because they play better? I own a PC600 and I recently bought Microgel grommets for them as backup and they look like theyre made out of different materials. Does this affect weight, stiffness, etc??
 
Hi guys, I note from pictures that the new IG Speed Pro has a form of CAP grommets.

Can the IG CAP grommets be put onto the older Youtek Speed Pro?

Also can someone describe the difference in play/feel once CAP's are installed? I understand its a little extra SW and someone said stiffer??
 
help with headsize confusion

oops

almost all users here refer to the "prestige" headsize as 89.5 square inch which should be about 580 square centimeter. some of these frames have 600 written on the frame which is agreed to refer to the headsize of the frame which is equal to 93 square inch. plus headsizes of prestige mid frames are given as 93 square inch = 600 square centimeter in tennis warehouse?

what am I missing here?

best
 
craniopath said:
oops

almost all users here refer to the "prestige" headsize as 89.5 square inch which should be about 580 square centimeter. some of these frames have 600 written on the frame which is agreed to refer to the headsize of the frame which is equal to 93 square inch. plus headsizes of prestige mid frames are given as 93 square inch = 600 square centimeter in tennis warehouse?

what am I missing here?

best
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They use to measure the racket head size within the hoop, but now they measure it on the outside of the hoop so because of that it changed from 89.5 to 93 sq in
 
I used a liquidmetal prestige grommet on the iradical and it fit nicely!
now the racket is more solid and stable. it's a bit head heavy though, so i may have to add weight to the grip
 
capping and string pattern

I hope this is not the dumbest question but when you cap a radical (say the original radical tour), do you string it like a radical or like a prestige? I barely know anyting about stringing but since they are both 18x20, is it bad practice to follow the stringing pattern of the grommets and not the racquet?

thanks in advance
 
^ The racquet would be the best way to go. Whatever tie-offs and starting knots are displayed on the radical, those are the ones you want to follow.
 
Head Graphite Pro twaron fiber constant beam

this racket is the, seems to be rarer, constant beam brother of the power wedge version. has anyone tried and was successful in capping this racquet?

thanks in advance
 
I am thinking of capping an IG Youtek Radical MP. I searched through this thread but still have a couple of questions.


1. I believe that the clear IG Prestige MP cap will fit. Will the black Youtek Prestige MP cap fit?

2. How much weight will the cap grommet add compared to the stock IG Radical MP grommet?


Thanks in advance.
 
I read that you can put the prestige grommets in the microwave to make things easier. Does anyone have an idea of exactly how long to leave them in for?
 
First time I tried to put them on, way back on an iPrestige pj. think they took me and my dad about 40 minutes or so total trying to use a heat gun. Took forever! Just the other day put on a set in probably under two minutes total. I take one side, bend it in half and put on a rubber band to keep it "folded" and put it in 'wave. Set the timer for 1:30 minutes. Take it out every 30 seconds and bend it around again. If you leave it in for full time it will melt. After three 30 second shifts in 'wave the thing will slide right in with a little help from an awl. Repeat on other side and you will be good to go. Honestly, under two minutes other day less, of course, time spent nuking it.
 
MLB_MOB said:
I read that you can put the prestige grommets in the microwave to make things easier. Does anyone have an idea of exactly how long to leave them in for?
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DO NOT DO THIS!

Use a hair dryer if you need to soften them up. It's not necessary to soften the grommets to install them properly and easily.
 
I've decapped a Prince graphite 93 and a Dunlop 4D 200 Tour. On balance, I like em both better de-capped. The Dunlop now plays like a Head TY Instinct in terms of the flex in its hoop, but the throat is obviously more massive in the Dunlop than the Head. As for the Prince, once I concluded that it was never going to be a "powerful" stick I opted for more sensitivity near twelve o'lock despite that the racket already came with a major dead spot near its tip where only a tremendous amount of lead applied at twelve was ever able to render this frame "poppy" or capable of snapping off the sick flat groundies that I most enjoy hitting even when they come racing back at me for having been placed poorly (but then, the racket was too heavy overall) so. .I said ultimately "Eff it. I will strip this racket down to a bare minimum static weight to be able, then, to swing it aggressively and fast as possible" without riddling myself over the polarized::de-polarized dichotomy.
 
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Hey guys, I was wondering if any of you had any idea if you could put the Youtek prestige MP grommets on the new Head Youtek IG Radical MP. I think you might be able to but i realize that the prestige has a 21mm beam width and the new radical has a beam width of 22mm. Any of you guys know if this would work and i could get them capped? Any info is appreciated. Best regards.

HY
 
Head Youtek said:
Hey guys, I was wondering if any of you had any idea if you could put the Youtek prestige MP grommets on the new Head Youtek IG Radical MP. I think you might be able to but i realize that the prestige has a 21mm beam width and the new radical has a beam width of 22mm. Any of you guys know if this would work and i could get them capped? Any info is appreciated. Best regards.

HY
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It's not just the width difference, the prestige has a flatter beam and the rad is more rounded. You could make it fit but not sure how flush it would sit.
 
Bud said:
The LM Radical is one of my favorite frames with CAP grommets, a leather grip and about 8-10g of extra weight inside the butt cap. It's nearly the perfect frame, IMO.


The trick to CAPping the LM Radical is this:

► Once obtaining the grommets, observe the nibs. You'll notice that 4 or so are larger to accommodate the tie off/starting locations on the Prestige (which differ from the Radical)

► Match those four nibs to your Radical frame holes. You'll notice the frame holes of the Radical are too small to accommodate the enlarged grommets nibs of the Prestige grommets

► Use a Dremel to very slightly enlarge those 4 Radical frame holes

► The grommets should then snap right into place

I messed up 2-3 LM Radical CAP jobs until I really analyzed what was happening. Some people mash them into place but the grommet strip then bulges at certain locations and it looks like crap, IMO.


I believe this is the bit I use to slightly enlarge the 4 frame holes:

9903n.jpg


P1070262.JPG


P1070268.JPG


P1070267.JPG
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Bud do you know the number of that dremal bit? I'm getting ready to cap 4 MicroGel Radicals and am getting all the pieces in place and I don't appear to have a bit like that

Thanks in advance
 
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