Nice deflection. Many people in your fanbase having been digging up years old threads just to insult people for making predictions. They’ve also been making threads taking shots at Fedal non-stop lately.
Djokovic fans like the word "if". Truth is, Busta was actually leading in the match when that happened. Yeah, we know, he was probably going to choke, but it doesn't mean we should act like Djokovic won the tournament.
Of course he was. He won 4 tournaments in a row before the DQ.Nice deflection. Many people in your fanbase having been digging up years old threads just to insult people for making predictions. They’ve also been making threads taking shots at Fedal non-stop lately.
Lol In 2020 Joker had played like 3 tournaments on HC before the pandemic started. As if he was going to go undefeated all year
Yes, but I’m talking about why Med reached the F and Djoko didn’t. Med could’ve reached the final even if he’d lost to Zverev
Me too, was just explaining how Djoko lost in the RR and it wasn’t because of poor performance
Lol dude he wasn’t going undefeated the rest of the year. He lost multiple times once tennis resumed.
I am convinced Fed would have beaten him in both AO and USO if they faced that year. But yeah it is obviously Roddick based on the summer sweep.
2024 will be between Sinner and Djokovic
2024 SINNER
even without of 500s nole was better
Peak Sinner will achieve the same as Nole in 2012 in 2024
I’ll take the H2H in the big events and the more historic achievement of the NA Summer Slam over that. Besides Jojer was given a massive lifeline in the AO that year.
I love your confidence in Sinner. That's good to see, and you post tastefully.
While it should be obvious Novak was the USO favorite without a DQ and lost the YEC semi by a hair, we can still not ignore Thiem having better results at 1 Slam, pushing Novak to 5 in the AO final and making the YEC final. He had more concentrated high end results, but a much worse spread.
The question is also "Who is the best HC player", so to me level of play is a relevant factor here, not nesessarily who won the most importan titles. Without a disqualification, Djokovic would without a doubt be the favourite at USO. That 2020 USO came with a bad smell, no Big3...
Murray is Nole's pigeon. He will never be better.
well i believe murray was the best hardcourt player for 2016 so...
Haha good one.
If only he had won USO 16 it probably would have been him. But with no HC slam it can't be.
Bit personal lol
2009 Overall Ranking |
Rank | Name | Point |
1 | Roger Federer | 10550 |
2 | Rafael Nadal | 9205 |
3 | Novak Djokovic | 8310 |
4 | Andy Murray | 7030 |
5 | Del Potro | 6785 |
2009 HC Ranking |
Rank | Name | Point |
1 | Novak Djokovic | 6200 |
2 | Rafael Nadal | 5925 |
3 | Andy Murray | 5150 |
4 | Roger Federer | 5100 |
5 | Del Potro | 4655 |
You're not in sync with what we are talking about. This thread title isn't about (1)GOAT debate, (2)it's not about achievement, and (3)I did not use H2H as an argument, but simply point it out that an unhealthy Federer is not fit to compete against a healthy Djokovic at the AO. This thread is about who's the best hc player, not about achievement.
Djokovic achieved more, but it doesn't automatically means he's the better hc player.
You do realize that while not always the same there is a big correlation between best and most accomplished right? I have Pete as No. 1 in 99 and Fed as No. 1 in 2017 even though both were not the most accomplished players those years so believe me I do consider context.
Not exactly a uncommon take
Fed and Nole is 23-27 with 6-11 in slams. If it was not for Fed's choking it would be 25-25 and 8-9 in slams all of which with Novak having the age advantage in most matches. Whoever thinks that one of them would be clearly superior prime for prime is clueless.
Exactly. They are the same outside clay. Nole is better at AO, Roger is better at Wimby. Both will beat each other. I agree.
That's right. 2013 was clearly for Rafa IMO. Novak and Rafa were tied in Slams on hard that season, so their Slam H2H is the immortal tie-breaker for the colective memory of posterity. When tennis fans think of 2013, the Roland-Garros 2013 SF and the US Open 2013 final will be the first thing that will come to their mind.
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