Little help: Dunlop 4D 300 (16x19) or 4D 200 (16x19)

[lefvianna]

I need a little help with Dunlop´s 4D 300 (16x19) and 4D 200 (16x19).

Who ever tested both racquets?

I bought the 3hundred 4D but i need more weight.

Maybe I´ll add some weight in the 3hundred. Or do you thing that the 2hundred (16x19) is better?

I´m from Brazil. So, here it´s hard to find the 2hundred (16x19) and there aren´t much players with this racquet.

Sorry for my English. I appreciate any help.

I liked this forum.

 

[GameSetMatch]

If you have the strokes and can handle the weight, the 200 16x19 is a great racquet. It has tremendous directional accuracy, stability and plough through on groundstrokes (but unlike the 300 is very unforgiving of mishits). I've also added 4g of lead at 3 and 9 as I prefer being able to feel the head of the racquet slightly more through the arc of my swing.

Having said that, it is right at the limit of my manageable weight range. It doesn't feel heavy when you hold it but after I've played a 2 hour singles match, I feel more tired with this racquet than I do with a 300 Tour (leaded to 336g). Part of the reason is that is that forces you to (mentally) concentrate on your strokes more and setup correctly every time compared to the more 'fire and forget' characteristics of the 300/300 Tour. The weight is fine for groundstrokes but it has taken quite a while for me to groove my flat serve with this racquet. The challenge has been getting sufficient racquet head speed for that final whippy motion through contact. I flat serve faster, heavier and more consistently with a leaded 300 Tour but I have a more precise and heavier ground game with the 200 16x19.

The 4D 300 is also a good racquet - with a slightly more solid, 'one piece' feel compared to the non-4D 300. As you've pointed out already, it needs to heavier. I have non-4D 300 and have added 10g to the handle, 4g to the base of the throat, and 8g to the hoop. Have you tried adding some lead?

I've found that both racquets are quite senstive to string choice.

 

[dParis]

The 4d200(16x19) is a racquet that does everything as good or better than the 4d300 with one exception. The 4d200 is less maneuverable than the 4d300. As I recall, the 4d200(16x19) or, Euro, is lighter than the two other 4d200s though. It is one of the best volleying racquets I've ever used and it is brick wall solid.

If you can handle the extra mass, the 4d200 is the easy choice.

 

[decades]

I liked the 300 series better than 200 after I weighted them up. the 200 seemed to be lower powered and a bit sluggish and hard to move around. your mileage may vary.

 

[dParis]

Yes, my comments reflected my opinion of strictly stock versions of these racquets. While customizing racquets is not really my thing, the 4d300 does easily lend itself to customization, and I've read many times how adding lead here or there has greatly improved the performance of the racquet so you may want to keep that in mind.

 

[Murray_fan1]

I currently toying with the 4D 200 16x19 and have to say it is a great racquet. I find it has a nice combination of stability, and control with just the right amount a pop. Spin generation is more than adequate and have not found a better racquet thus for serving and net play. The 300 is another solid racquet but requires a ton more customization to play as well for me as the 200.

 

[Racer41c]

The 4d200(16x19) is a racquet that does everything as good or better than the 4d300 with one exception. The 4d200 is less maneuverable than the 4d300. As I recall, the 4d200(16x19) or, Euro, is lighter than the two other 4d200s though. It is one of the best volleying racquets I've ever used and it is brick wall solid.

If you can handle the extra mass, the 4d200 is the easy choice.

I agree 100% wtih dParis. The one thing the 200 is much better for is serving. But as he says, it's very difficult to volley with, unless your a very clean volleyer (which I'm not).

 

[lefvianna]

Thanks for your help.

Today I added some lead (2g) at 3 and 9 o´clock. I also added 4g to the handle. Now it´s about 313g strung weigth.

So, I´ll try this new configuration before thinking buy the 2hundred.

But every help is important.

Do you think another place (position) in the racquet for add some weigth? At throat or at 12 o´clock?

Anyway, thanks.

If you have the strokes and can handle the weight, the 200 16x19 is a great racquet. It has tremendous directional accuracy, stability and plough through on groundstrokes (but unlike the 300 is very unforgiving of mishits). I've also added 4g of lead at 3 and 9 as I prefer being able to feel the head of the racquet slightly more through the arc of my swing.

Having said that, it is right at the limit of my manageable weight range. It doesn't feel heavy when you hold it but after I've played a 2 hour singles match, I feel more tired with this racquet than I do with a 300 Tour (leaded to 336g). Part of the reason is that is that forces you to (mentally) concentrate on your strokes more and setup correctly every time compared to the more 'fire and forget' characteristics of the 300/300 Tour. The weight is fine for groundstrokes but it has taken quite a while for me to groove my flat serve with this racquet. The challenge has been getting sufficient racquet head speed for that final whippy motion through contact. I flat serve faster, heavier and more consistently with a leaded 300 Tour but I have a more precise and heavier ground game with the 200 16x19.

The 4D 300 is also a good racquet - with a slightly more solid, 'one piece' feel compared to the non-4D 300. As you've pointed out already, it needs to heavier. I have non-4D 300 and have added 10g to the handle, 4g to the base of the throat, and 8g to the hoop. Have you tried adding some lead?

I've found that both racquets are quite senstive to string choice.

 

[lefvianna]

Like I said, I´ll try customize my 3hundred before change to the 2hundred.

Until now I felt the 3hundred so ligth. My shots wasn´t so powerful than they were when I played with Radicl.

So, I´ll try add some lead (2g) at 3, 9 o´clock and 4g to the handle.

Now it will be about 313g strung weigth.

I appreciate every help and thank you.

One more question for everybudy: you think another place (position) in the racquet for add some weigth? At throat or at 12 o´clock?

Anyway, thanks.

Yes, my comments reflected my opinion of strictly stock versions of these racquets. While customizing racquets is not really my thing, the 4d300 does easily lend itself to customization, and I've read many times how adding lead here or there has greatly improved the performance of the racquet so you may want to keep that in mind.

 

[GameSetMatch]

I'd suggest 4g at 3+9, 2g at 4.30/7.30, 4g on the inside of the base of the throat and c10g along the length of the inside of the handle. All a matter of personal preference of course! Obviously, you can experiment to suit your own preferences.

 

[Limpinhitter]

Thanks for your help.

Today I added some lead (2g) at 3 and 9 o´clock. I also added 4g to the handle. Now it´s about 313g strung weigth.

So, I´ll try this new configuration before thinking buy the 2hundred.

But every help is important.

Do you think another place (position) in the racquet for add some weigth? At throat or at 12 o´clock?

Anyway, thanks.

The regular 4D 300 is only about 290g unstrung. I would suggest 10g in the handle - under the grip (ie: 4 strips, 5 inches each, of 1/2" lead tape, on top, bottom and sides), plus 2g at 9 o'clock, and 2g at 3 o'clock for added stability. If that makes the racquet too HL, you can add another 2g at 12 o'clock. With that, it will still be lighter and more maneuverable than the 200. And, the 300 is more flexible and friendly, IMHO!