Living in cities - Which is best ?

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  1. Steady Eddy

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    Isn't Vegas hotter than Phoenix?
     
  2. Crocodile

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    Well low taxing nations can actually stimulate more economic activity and creativity resulting in more taxation collected. High taxing nations either go broke or the talented people leave resulting in higher unemployment and less tax collected.
     
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    I've lived in many different major cities of USA. The factor i've come to prefer is how dense vs sprawling the city is. Not that its an exact science, but in my experience it relates to how quickly and efficeneintly get around to where you need to go. After undergrad i thought about moving to Atlanta, GA or Portland, OR and ultimately chose portland because i can walk or bike most places or rely on mass transit. Although I'm not counting out Atlanta in the future because I love the tennis there.
     
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    No. Phx regularly get 110+ many weeks during July and Aug. I dont plan on going back ;)
     
  5. Steady Eddy

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    But it's a dry heat.
     
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    I dont miss getting burned when stepping into my car or the unavoidable back sweat thing when driving. And dont get me started on playing tennis during the day in the summer. Felt like there were 2 suns.
    1 above and 1 right below the court surface.
     
  7. Steady Eddy

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    Well, I think it feels good.
     
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    You do you!
    Lovely landscape. Miss the cacti.
     
  9. Steady Eddy

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    Take a Siesta in the afternoon.
     
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    Either 7x7 Bay Area or Midtown.
     
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    And what about Norway’s climate? No much sunlight, isn’t it?
     
  12. dgold44

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    Phoenix is hotter by 10 degrees in Fall- Spring.
    Summer is pretty even but Phoenix is a tad more humid and very more humid in August.
     
  13. sureshs

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    Las Vegas is the best
     
  14. onehandbh

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    Which category do Norway and Denmark fall into?
     
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    Norway falls within the "we have too much oil and too few people, so it doesn't matter" category.

    Denmark is more complex, but they are happy (with high taxes).

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  16. Crocodile

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    Pretty good assessment. My only reservation is the definition of what makes one happy. There is quite a different lifestyle with say people living in Australia and U.S. and Denmark. Lot of people live in big houses and households and own more then one car compared to Denmark where accommodation tends to be a lot more frugal and this is just an observation on one aspect.
    Would like to hear from someone here who has lived in both countries for a comparison,
     
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    I wonder which, if any, cities have fairly easy access to tennis courts. Courts not too costly.
    I hear Atlanta has too many tennis players, hard to get a court.
     
  18. dgold44

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    Funny the only time I quit tennis was during the 11 months I lived in Atlanta
     
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    Tennis is not popular in Vegas

    Atlanta is a very odd mix of folks
     
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    There are some that might argue that ease of obtaining guns, a big car, and a big house is all they need.

    Others may care less about material things and care more about experiential things. (juxtoposition intended)

    Others may want a tightly controlled society with low crime, low freedom.
     
  21. Crocodile

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    Well not everybody who is successful/unsuccessful (Take your pick) and buys a big house and cars wants a gun.

    Conversely those who live in a controlled society may have to endure crimes committed against them by aggressive agencies in their society and state if they have other views.

    And there are those who are less materialistic and more experiential don't want to take responsibility for their well being and independence. ( but one can't generalise)

    The thing is that researchers can skew things to suit their agenda. Look how biased universities and the media can be and also governments in their legislative power to influence society.

    At the end of the day if you strip things right back most people are happy if they are free, can be healthy, be teated fairly and have the opportunity to be what they dream to be.
    Depending on your point of view some would argue that earning reward for effort is important.
    A big thing with all these studies is that size of population and density as mentioned here is a big factor. For example New Zealand, Norway and even Australia are small populations compared to China, India, USA and even Japan and the UK. Even Taiwan, which is smaller than Tasmania has a population bigger than Australia.
    People in Sydney complain that it is becoming too populated and with it brings problems of congestion and expensive house prices but some won't move to say Adelaide hecause of family and lack of economic opportunities.
    There have ideas of developing regional towns again and connecting them with fast trains but this is usually talk during election time.
     
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    I heard that Denmark is organic country because everything is organic. If so, I should move there and I don’t like poison stuff eg hormone added to the meat. The most important is Denmark ban any dangerous medications such as cymbalta. Unlike aust govt have no clue how dangerous cymbalta is and putting people at risk.
     
  23. Crocodile

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    That's good to hear that Atlanta has lots of tennis players. Either they must be doing something right and/or they need to build more courts.
     
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    8. United States
    Also in the top 10 best countries for: cultural influence, entrepreneurship, power, most forward-looking, most influential, education.

    LOL. No..
     
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  25. Crocodile

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    If the U.S. Is not 8th then where do you think they rate. Second thing of interest is what would being "forward looking", constitute because it can mean different things to different people.
    As for the education system, depending on your point of view, that could mean different things. Lot of teachers I talk to complain about poor student behaviour and parenting skills and school curriculums moving away from classical education systems of Math, English and Science and instead focusing on the humanities and politics.
    Does anyone have a view on this. Would like to hear a variety of viewpoints. Cheers
     
  26. Crocodile

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    The other thing of interest is the big city or capital city v country or regional town. Has anyone experienced a sea change or tree change migration?
     
  27. Crocodile

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    Has anyone moved from USA or UK and Australia and moved to a country say like Hungary where u get more bang for your buck buying a house is Buda or Pest
     
  28. Crocodile

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    Are there any of you who have made the move from Australia to NZ or the other way round? NZ sure looks beautiful. What about moving from New York to San Diego or the other way round?
     
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    Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Russia, Iraq all have much more oil per capita. Norway ranks #33.
    There must be something different about them.. maybe better education and social services that results in better human development? and yes they collect tax to do all that.
     
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    Source?

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    My post was mostly in jest to make the point that what happiness is can vary depending on the person.

    e.g.
    Some value career sucess and money above family and vice versa.
     
  32. Crocodile

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    All good.
     
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    Oregon- great people
    Vegas- Great Weather
    Michigan- if you love lakes and bitter Cold
    Atlanta- if you love the night life
    Phoenix- if you love to bake to death for 6 months
    Chicago- if you love the BIG CITY
     
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    Google Wikipedia petroleum reserves by country.
     
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    We are not talking reserves that is why I asked.

    We are talking real production, and as far as I know Norway produces more oil per 1000 people than any of the aforementioned.

    Of course, you are also correct that there are more important factors to wealth than only natural resources, but underestimating the natural factors for wealth is not very objective.

    War, political system, number of population, and many more are all contributing factors to the way the wealth is kept and distributed.

    :cool:
     
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    Fellow life long Minnesotan here too. Winters are harsh...I always tell people visiting that Jan/Feb are the worst, outside of that winter is not bad. Four seasons are nice, fall is beautiful with the scenery and my favorite time of the year. My wife doesn't do well in the heat (she grew up on Lake Superior), but that said, we've talked about moving south after my kids are grown. My wife likes Tennessee, but I guess the insects and bugs are terrible there. So I guess that's one good thing about the MN winters, they clean out all of that.
     
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    That actually does not change with gun ownership, only that now it is not only the agencies that can bully them, but their neighbors too.
     
  38. Crocodile

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    Well I think you have edited posts and taken things out out context here. The poster was making an observation between 3 types of living and made a comparison between a place where there was free gun ownership hence high crime on one extreme and a totallatarian system with high control and low crime rate. The point made in response to this is that these totallatarian systems aren't quite low in crime when you factor in the 45 million people killed in 4 years by one of the leaders of those countries and 6 million from another extreme type.
     

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