Lleyton Hewitt def. Roger Federer 6-1 4-6 6-3

The courts have stopped being fast since 2007!
with these new balls they will favor hewitt pretty damn well. and since this is the first time hes gone into AO without any sort of injuries and feeling 100% and being exceptionally fit since he doesnt have to worry about his foot injuries it should be a good AO and an interesting one to boot.
 

Jessekershaw

New User
This is an interesting site. Provides some great insight post match.
http://www.tennisabstract.com/charting/20140105-M-Brisbane-F-Roger_Federer-Lleyton_Hewitt.html

Taking nothing away from Hewitt, I think the unforced errors & lack of break point conversions tell the story. Looking at the shot direction is interesting as RF put over 40% in the middle of the court and had hardly any inside out or inside in shots, which I recall as his forte in the past when he would control points.

Having watched the match it was clear he was shanking far more balls than the previous matches this week. He also seemed to often hit the ball right back to Hewitt, and rarely made him run. Maybe that was good guesswork on Hewitts part, or he just knew the pattern, either way on the rare occasion RF went up the line it appeared to do well for him. He also chipped a bunch of second serves back, even saw a forehand chip return. Why? No idea, but clearly not his best offensive work. Hewitt on the other hand went after head high kick serves aggressively numerous times, and reaped the benefits of that.

RF got more aces than I can recall in a long time this week, but clearly this final wasn't his best work. Eliminating three RF unforced errors in the third set alone would have changed the match. Two were on his break chances during LH's first two service games, and one was trying to save a break during his second service game.

I don't have an opinion other than finding the stats very telling. Unforced errors and shanks don't make for exciting tennis to watch so I hope to see some improvement at AO. Interesting to see that even at the highest level there is something to be said for making your opponent hit one more shot, and unforced errors can sink anyone.
 

zam88

Professional
Fed needs to retire. Hes losing to guys more washed up than he is now and 10 years past their primes.

I know his delusional fanatics still think he has a miracle run left in him, but time to give up the fantasy,

I don't think he has a miracle run left in him. I expect him to make zero Grand Slam Semis barring a joker draw, and win zero masters 1000 titles.

Would you retire if your sponsors were going to pay you over 20 million bucks to go out and there and play, results be damned? Yeah, neither would I or anyone else.


I don't think Federer has the motivation to win a G.S. anymore... i think he just wants to go out there and enjoy what tennis he can and get paid big time.
 

Murrayfan31

Hall of Fame
with these new balls they will favor hewitt pretty damn well. and since this is the first time hes gone into AO without any sort of injuries and feeling 100% and being exceptionally fit since he doesnt have to worry about his foot injuries it should be a good AO and an interesting one to boot.
You know they are using the same balls as last year right.
 

TheNatural

G.O.A.T.
This is an interesting site. Provides some great insight post match.
http://www.tennisabstract.com/charting/20140105-M-Brisbane-F-Roger_Federer-Lleyton_Hewitt.html

Taking nothing away from Hewitt, I think the unforced errors & lack of break point conversions tell the story. Looking at the shot direction is interesting as RF put over 40% in the middle of the court and had hardly any inside out or inside in shots, which I recall as his forte in the past when he would control points.

Having watched the match it was clear he was shanking far more balls than the previous matches this week. He also seemed to often hit the ball right back to Hewitt, and rarely made him run. Maybe that was good guesswork on Hewitts part, or he just knew the pattern, either way on the rare occasion RF went up the line it appeared to do well for him. He also chipped a bunch of second serves back, even saw a forehand chip return. Why? No idea, but clearly not his best offensive work. Hewitt on the other hand went after head high kick serves aggressively numerous times, and reaped the benefits of that.

RF got more aces than I can recall in a long time this week, but clearly this final wasn't his best work. Eliminating three RF unforced errors in the third set alone would have changed the match. Two were on his break chances during LH's first two service games, and one was trying to save a break during his second service game.

I don't have an opinion other than finding the stats very telling. Unforced errors and shanks don't make for exciting tennis to watch so I hope to see some improvement at AO. Interesting to see that even at the highest level there is something to be said for making your opponent hit one more shot, and unforced errors can sink anyone.
If Feddy had used a 29 inch racket he would have have had a better shot at getting some of those lobs and that could have turned the match.:)
 

swordtennis

G.O.A.T.
One of the greatest days ever! Hewitt's favorite are fast med or low bouncing courts. The bouncy surfaces killed him. He is going to battle at the AO.
 

3fees

G.O.A.T.
Big win for Hewitt, I dont understand how Federer could have lost, his attention must be somewhere else.
 

Pete_Federer

New User
Racquet pb?

Looked from his returns that the racquet was too cumbersome / he was out of position many times,
lacked topspin big style on BH and also FH, no cross courts...
his shots were either short or straight to the net, or long,
no sure about power advantage

6.1 95 vs 90 transition?
needs to drop alu? or go higher tension?
against a traditionnal player like HL a control racquet is better?
 

rh310

Hall of Fame
Hewitt's intensity is at the highest possible level right now. He is ultra confident fit and believes he can win anything. He's a man possessed. Somehow Hewitt has regained his maximum intensity after so many years. No player in tennis history had more explosive intensity than Hewitt. Hewitt's emotions and adrenaline and intensity are what made him an all time great player. He's the total package but his intensity and fire took him all the way to the top. And he ain't done yet folks. Hewitt wants this Aussie Open in a big way. He just might get it.
Rafa and Novak are lucky they weren't facing him. He'd have done the same thing to them.



(Sorry, couldn't resist. :D)
 

rh310

Hall of Fame
Fed just really seems to have trouble with people who take the fight to him. Remember that 5-set Tipso match a few years back? Chardy was fist-pumping on every point won, and staring hard at Fed while he did it. Nadal was notorious for his over-the-top point-won celebrations when he first came on the tour, and he established himself firmly in Fed's head as a result.

Seems to get to Fed, who seems to want to play "pure" or "academic" tennis instead of slugging it out. That's the one thing I wish he would do: If the match needs to be a dogfight in order to win it, then by G*d let it be a dogfight.
 

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
Fed just really seems to have trouble with people who take the fight to him. Remember that 5-set Tipso match a few years back? Chardy was fist-pumping on every point won, and staring hard at Fed while he did it. Nadal was notorious for his over-the-top point-won celebrations when he first came on the tour, and he established himself firmly in Fed's head as a result.

Seems to get to Fed, who seems to want to play "pure" or "academic" tennis instead of slugging it out. That's the one thing I wish he would do: If the match needs to be a dogfight in order to win it, then by G*d let it be a dogfight.
I agree about Nadal, but the Tipsarevic and Chardy matches are bad examples. How do you prove that Chardy won a set (but not the match) just because he fist pumped himself to death.

And Fed was sweating like a demon in the Tipsarevic match. And he never sweats. We all know what he was dealing with there, and it wasn`t Tipsarevic. Tipsarevic hasn`t won a set against Fed in 5 other meetings apart from that match.
 
Looking at it positively, I think Fed did well to reach the finals considering that he is experimenting with a new stick. It can take months to adjust to a new stick for any great player, so we can hope for better to come from the swiss maestro.
 

tennisplayer1993

Professional
Fed needs to retire. Hes losing to guys more washed up than he is now and 10 years past their primes.

I know his delusional fanatics still think he has a miracle run left in him, but time to give up the fantasy,
We agreed on one thing wow. Lol

+1000000.

I grew up some really delusional obnoxious tennis fans in high school. I remember messing with them what rank in 2003? rank in 2004? how many slams in 2003? 2004? 2005? 2006?

And I all I get is blank stares. To honest, I followed 2000-2005 tennis a lot more. I loved everyone in that field bar Federer ( I never liked him ). I always cheered on Safin and Roddick. Hewitt I liked as long as he wasn't playing the other two listed. I remember I started playing my baseline game back then. Trying to implement a Safin backhand with a solid serve
 

rh310

Hall of Fame
I agree about Nadal, but the Tipsarevic and Chardy matches are bad examples. How do you prove that Chardy won a set (but not the match) just because he fist pumped himself to death.
He won a set and played a tough match in general, not because he "fist pumped himself to death" but because he took the fight to Roger and seemed to get himself into an intensely angry, aggressive mindset towards Federer. I'm mindreading a little, I admit. :)

And Fed was sweating like a demon in the Tipsarevic match. And he never sweats. We all know what he was dealing with there, and it wasn`t Tipsarevic. Tipsarevic hasn`t won a set against Fed in 5 other meetings apart from that match.
What I remember from that match was Tips' post-match interview, where he talked about being unafraid of Federer, and playing him like he planned on beating him. It was the talk of the tournament for a few days, and kicked off a series of matches for Federer played by guys who psyched themselves into being almost contemptuous of Federer. Andreev was one of them (2010 1R AO). Djokovic was another.

Maybe I'm all wet here, but it seems like Roger doesn't deal with that very well.
 

swordtennis

G.O.A.T.
mattennis wrote up a post on this.
The Brisbane court composition is absolutely awesome. The Hewitt Federer final was awesome. The play was exciting and awesome. I hope the Australian Open switches to this surface.
 

TheNatural

G.O.A.T.
Looked from his returns that the racquet was too cumbersome / he was out of position many times,
lacked topspin big style on BH and also FH, no cross courts...
his shots were either short or straight to the net, or long,
no sure about power advantage

6.1 95 vs 90 transition?
needs to drop alu? or go higher tension?
against a traditionnal player like HL a control racquet is better?
Fed is playing like s standard ball basher with his big racket, no magic in his game.
 

burn1986

Banned
Federer seemed to handle it well, I mean, he kept playing and was a good sport when it was over. But his shots lacked depth and pace. A blade or 6.1 95 is a totally different racquet than a 90. At least the 95 is a little closer. He's listening to fools who are telling him he needs a 98.
 
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